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[ila]

Originally Posted by shadows

It depends on what they sign him for. Thome is nowhere near the player he was a few years ago, and he has had some injuries creeping up on him recently. If the contract is not too high and perhaps an incentive-laden one, I could see this as a good signing. If they overpay, they could end up like the Blue Jays did when they signed Frank Thomas(man, if only we could have gotten him when he was not a shadow of his former self).

That seems to be a common Jays problem. When they do get a good player at a reasonable salary they let him go. Sometimes the Jays are so frustrating with the way they do business.

Yes, shadows, I do support the Jays (the only Toronto team that I do support). I would like to see them be a lot more consistent than they are. They always get my hopes only to dash them again.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by ila

That seems to be a common Jays problem. When they do get a good player at a reasonable salary they let him go. Sometimes the Jays are so frustrating with the way they do business.

Yes, shadows, I do support the Jays (the only Toronto team that I do support). I would like to see them be a lot more consistent than they are. They always get my hopes only to dash them again.

I think now that J.P. Retardi is no longer the GM things will be looking up. We may have been able to get Adam Dunn...or at least we could have before our Idiot Savant(without the Savant) of a GM decided to belittle him. And to top that all off, someone pretended to be Adam Dunn when they talked to him during his session on Jay's Radio. What a buffoon!

Frank Thomas: Bad contract.

B.J.Ryan: At the time of the signing it honestly looked good. Then he got injured and that was that. So neutral contract.

Vernon Wells: Horrible, horrible contract! That basically handcuffs the Jays for many years, as who the hell would pick up that contract in a trade? Not even the Yankees, as Wells has sucked eggs the past couple of seasons. I think it was more of a case of getting off the juice than being "injured" all the time. I think his production dropping around the time of the Mitchell Reports being announced is more than just a coincidence. Perhaps I am just being a jaded Jays fan...perhaps not. HORRIBLE CONTRACT!

Alex Rios: Another bad contract. Thankfully we were able to pawn him off to another team who picked up his contract via the waiver wire! Thank you Chicago Whitesox, THANK YOU!!!! That kid had so much potential, but he just couldn't reach it. I just don't think he has the mental(and by this, I don't mean intelligence)capability to do it now. He will be an okay player, but will never reach his full potential. Bad contract...that we were lucky to get rid of.

Is it a telling sign that we were not able to sign any of our draft picks this year? I think MLB needs to change the way they have the draft and make it something like the NHL has. If a team picks you, you play for them or you get sanctioned until you do(or the team that picked you gets a bonus pick(s) in the next draft and the player still doesn't get to play for a year or two). Scott Boras is an agent of a lot of these young punks(and I say it because they are obviously in it for money only, and are being greedy since they have not proven themselves on a professional level), and he is a cancer/parasite that MLB needs to get rid of. Look at the list of MLB players that he is an agent of, and you will see that he is the agent of the ones that have "issues", either with their code of conduct, their maturity, or their attitude.

A mini-rant there at the end, but I had to get it off my chest.

[Talvenada]

SHADOW:

Alex Anthopoulos looks good as one of the new breed of GM, like Theo Epstein in BOS & Rube Amaro in Philly.

TAL

[shadows]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

SHADOW:

Alex Anthopoulos looks good as one of the new breed of GM, like Theo Epstein in BOS & Rube Amaro in Philly.

TAL

I hope that to be the case. I certainly am willing to give him a chance, unlike certain Jays "fans" who want us to be like the Yankees and buy everything in sight(I'm glad we're not like that). They bitch and moan about how he isn't doing anything at all, and how we need to get big named players now, now, NOW!!! Give the guy a chance, people! Sheesh!

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by shadows

I hope that to be the case. I certainly am willing to give him a chance, unlike certain Jays "fans" who want us to be like the Yankees and buy everything in sight(I'm glad we're not like that). They bitch and moan about how he isn't doing anything at all, and how we need to get big named players now, now, NOW!!! Give the guy a chance, people! Sheesh!

SHADOW:

His sons are running the team differently than George for the last couple of years. Last year no big pitcher was picked up at the deadline. They spend their whole wad in the off-season with CC, AJ & Tex, but had more money come off the books with Abreu, Giambi & Mussina. The sons are not spending like George, and their payroll is going down.

TAL

[shadows]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

SHADOW:

His sons are running the team differently than George for the last couple of years. Last year no big pitcher was picked up at the deadline. They spend their whole wad in the off-season with CC, AJ & Tex, but had more money come off the books with Abreu, Giambi & Mussina. The sons are not spending like George, and their payroll is going down.

TAL

We'll have to see how this year's offseason plays out. The Yankees have not gotten anybody yet, but they really don't have a big need right now. They are pretty set with the team they have. I wonder if they will be as good as they were last year, or will winning the World Series cause them to be a little lax?

[smc]

Originally Posted by shadows

The Yankees have not gotten anybody yet

C'mon, guys, we all need to pay closer attention. I can't believe you don't know about these BIG-name signings by the Yankees:

Royce Ring, a lefty reliever, to a minor-league contract

Reid Gorecki, outfielder, to a minor-league contract

David Winfree, outfielder, to a minor-league contract

Boone Logan, relief pitcher

These are massive signings, future Hall-of-Fame signings!!!!

Just ask one of the Steinbrenner assholes.

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For smc.


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[Talvenada]

SHADOW:

I listen to WFAN.com in NY and Mike Francesa (big NYY fan), and he says the top 3 teams are The Yankees, Sox & Phillies.

I realize you're a Jays fan, but if it came down to those 3 teams, who would you root for? At least, The Phillies have Doc to root for.


TAL

[shadows]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

SHADOW:

I listen to WFAN.com in NY and Mike Francesa (big NYY fan), and he says the top 3 teams are The Yankees, Sox & Phillies.

I realize you're a Jays fan, but if it came down to those 3 teams, who would you root for? At least, The Phillies have Doc to root for.


TAL

Out of the three I would pick the Phillies. Not just due to them having Doc, but also for the fact that they are not divisional rivals to the Jays.

[smc]

Thanks. What makes it even funnier is that I've heard almost this exact conversation before.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by smc

Thanks. What makes it even funnier is that I've heard almost this exact conversation before.

No problem. Glad you liked it.