Barack Obama

[jimnaseum]

Man, you delete my post for crude language on a tranny-porn site?

[smc]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Man, you delete my post for crude language on a tranny-porn site?

This post is my personal opinion as a general Forum member, and does not necessarily reflect the views of any other Moderator.

It is unfortunate that jimnaseum chose to post this rather than respond to the PM he received. The moderators are considering whether there should be a new rule for the Forum regarding the use of certain terms that go beyond what here is called "crude language." Of course, people on the Forum use -- and are free to use -- all sorts of terms of a sexual nature that may be considered "crude" in so-called "polite society." But there is another class of language, which includes specific words that are widely considered racist or anti-gay.

Forum Rule #3 states, in part: "We strive to make this a friendly place." It cannot be a friendly place if the use of particular terms is allowed, in my opinion.

This is not about being politically correct. Were PC the motivation, imagine the issues we'd be dealing with simply over the use of terms to describe various states of transgenderism!

[TracyCoxx]

Today's uproar in Washington is about Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's comments about Obama that came out in a book called Game Change coming out this week.

He [Reid] was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama -- a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,'

Reid is now undergoing all kinds of damage control today and the talk shows are all buzzing about it. He says "I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words. I sincerely apologize for offending any and all Americans, especially African-Americans for my improper comments." Michael Steel is of course calling for Reid's resignation. He does correctly bring up the hypocrisy, but I think comes up with the wrong conclusion.

Why? I don't get the problem, and I'm not just trying to be funny. Isn't he just stating a fact? The American public obviously was ready to embrace a black candidate, and I think he's correct in saying that Americans were more ready to accept a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect. And I don't think it's a secret that Obama brought out some of his ebonics when speaking to a black audience.

We're all adults here. Voters are technically adults. The people in the government are adults. Can't someone say what's on their mind, especially if it's fact without all the feigned outrage? American's attitude of freedom of speech was summed up with the quote "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." I'm sad to say this kind of freedom of speech is long dead, thanks to political correct bullshit.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Today's uproar in Washington is about Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's comments about Obama that came out in a book called Game Change coming out this week.



Reid is now undergoing all kinds of damage control today and the talk shows are all buzzing about it. He says "I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words. I sincerely apologize for offending any and all Americans, especially African-Americans for my improper comments." Michael Steel is of course calling for Reid's resignation. He does correctly bring up the hypocrisy, but I think comes up with the wrong conclusion.

Why? I don't get the problem, and I'm not just trying to be funny. Isn't he just stating a fact? The American public obviously was ready to embrace a black candidate, and I think he's correct in saying that Americans were more ready to accept a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect. And I don't think it's a secret that Obama brought out some of his ebonics when speaking to a black audience.

We're all adults here. Voters are technically adults. The people in the government are adults. Can't someone say what's on their mind, especially if it's fact without all the feigned outrage? American's attitude of freedom of speech was summed up with the quote "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." I'm sad to say this kind of freedom of speech is long dead, thanks to political correct bullshit.

Right on! This media "oh my" show is totaly ridiculous.

[TracyCoxx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=662R2awSwPQ

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=662R2awSwPQ

Yes, I viewed the video and yes the concerns are real. However, it is full of distorted rhetoric lies and nonsense. The Democrats are heading for a catastrophe next election. A return of Republicans? They are no more competent than the Democrats. California has failed and the Federal government is very close. So, what do we have to look forward to? Failed governments often lead to Fascism, is it just around the corner? Immersed in perpetual war the country would eventually go the way of all fascist countries. Our beautiful prosperous country is on the verge.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Yes, I viewed the video and yes the concerns are real. However, it is full of distorted rhetoric lies and nonsense. The Democrats are heading for a catastrophe next election. A return of Republicans? They are no more competent than the Democrats. California has failed and the Federal government is very close. So, what do we have to look forward to? Failed governments often lead to Fascism, is it just around the corner? Immersed in perpetual war the country would eventually go the way of all fascist countries. Our beautiful prosperous country is on the verge.

Failed governments can lead to anything, depending on why it failed and what's left over. Republicans have not given this country perpetual war. If you're whining that we were engaged in war after the 9/11 attacks I would tell you to get real. That is the obvious result after an attack like 9/11. If Bill Clinton was in office, we'd have the same war. I'd hate to see how BO would have handled it though. Hopefully we don't have to find out. Republicans are more likely to stand their ground rather than going around groveling, kissing hands and apologizing for anything and everything. This is a good thing. If a country shows weakness, other countries will be happy to trample over you. Now I am not advocating going to extremes and becoming a militaristic fascist state. There are ways to stand your ground via the moral highground, economically, diplomatically, and yes, a big stick (wasn't that a democrat who said that?).

I hope the republicans return to power after BO's BS. Competent or not they will be much better. I'm hoping for competence though because it can be a lot better, and this country can be put on the right track. What we need are real conservatives, not RINOS. We need replublicans who aren't afraid to stand their ground when their opposition is a black person. We need republicans who will deal with the illegal immigration problem - and not by making them US citizens. And among these awesome republicans, we need a leader who can connect with the American people. The problem is, I don't see those qualities in the republicans we have now. Maybe the teabaggers will find some, I don't know. But even a RINO is better than the dems we have now - a fact that would have saved this country if voters realized that last election.

BTW, the so called liberals in power now, are not really liberals. Liberal is closer to libertarian. The "liberals" we have now are the progressives (from the early 1900s) that have hijacked the party.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

California has failed and the Federal government is very close. So, what do we have to look forward to? Failed governments often lead to Fascism, is it just around the corner? Immersed in perpetual war the country would eventually go the way of all fascist countries. Our beautiful prosperous country is on the verge.

America will disappear without a sound. Far too long the mentality of "Let someone else do it" and the notion of avoiding conflict have created a weak society that has become dependent on others rather than self sufficient. Our laziness and ungrateful attitudes as a whole is why Americans have thrown away their legacy and liberties so that they can take the easy way out in damn near every aspect of their lives.