Hormones and Erection

[Bionca]

Hormones are tough to gauge as the way they affect the body has so many variations - dosage, initial levels of estrogen/testosterone, genetic makeup, etc. It could be that just reducing the levels of estrogen and/or anti-androgens will do it, or maybe not. If yes, then the results won't be evident probably for a few months or longer. The down side is some of the feminizing parts fo HRT will also start to diminish.

She could take Viagra and probably get some of that back. I understand that many of the gals in the sex industry do just that. I agree with you that any mucking about with her HRT should be done under a doctor's observation since it isn't something that's safe to adjust on your own.

It brings up one thing that has recently been bothering me. The recommended levels of hormones for transition are FAR greater/lesser than would be found in average women. There are some within the community who feel this is a hold-over from the 50's and 60's when pre-op trans women were expected/assumed to be completely sexless until SRS. Evidence of sexual activity (particularly if it involved our penis) was reason to deny any further progress and access to any transition resources.

[TheSkronkDonkey]

Bionca, your knowledge, your insights and your presence continue to impress. Thank you for being you and choosing to continue to share some of your time here.

[merelypink]

viagra can take care of that

[Amy]

Viagra tends to be the only way anyone I know has found to get around it.

[sarawithacock]

Hello!
First post...

It's certainly an issue...though I've found the more I use the less I seem to lose, so to speak. But I hardly can say that would be a universal truth.

There are many variables I suppose.


cheers...

[Shemale Charli]

I will have been on hormones for 5 years come June 24th of 2010. However so far, I have always been able to perform. What I was told by my doctor who was speaking at the trans health conference in Philadelphia, stated that there is a pill that contains estrogen and testosterone. She said this, because alot of the girls were telling her that they have to work. As far as all the viagra talk, I never heard my doctor mention it once. But I quess it sounds practical. As for me, I told my doctor to go full steam ahead with the estrogen. I want no effects of testosterone. If I ever did run into that probelm, I would just go take viagra.

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by Bionca

It brings up one thing that has recently been bothering me. The recommended levels of hormones for transition are FAR greater/lesser than would be found in average women. There are some within the community who feel this is a hold-over from the 50's and 60's when pre-op trans women were expected/assumed to be completely sexless until SRS. Evidence of sexual activity (particularly if it involved our penis) was reason to deny any further progress and access to any transition resources.

In the uk the endo's & General Practitioners (GP's)
prescribe doses & adjust hormones according to your bloods.
The aim is a constant T & E level congurent with a Day-1 female
ie:

Baseline Testosterone levels:
Male . . . . 10-25 nmol/L
Female. . . . . . 0.5 - 2 nmol/L

Baseline Estrogen 2 Level (midcycle Genetic woman):
120-400 pmol/L


The following are figures previously posted on NuttycaTS, which are similar to the ones above:

Normal testosterone levels:
Adolescent male. . . . 75-400 ng/dl

Adolescent female . . 20 to 64 ng/dl

Adult male. . . . . . . . .300 to 1000 ng/dl or 10.4-34.7 nmol/L (SI units)

Adult female. . . . . . .20-75 ng/dl or .69-2.6 nmol/L (SI units)

Post op transsexual. .can be lower than 3 ng/dl

Blood tests to check:
Liver function test
cholesterol (triglyceride's)
oestrogen
testosterone

[hktinycock]

I have been a "chemical eunuch" for a few years now, after having taken Androcur, an anti-androgen to stop my testosterone production for several years. I also dappled with estrogen, but full feminization is not my objective.

My own experience is that I did lose a lot of my libido, though it is low but not out. I can get hard, but it becomes painful, because my penis had shrunk and if it does get fully engorged, it feels like its skin feels like it is about to split open.

The few erections I do get are relatively weak and short lived, certainly not enough for penetration. Because of the discomfort, I don't dare try Viagra.

I can achieve orgasm, and there is some clear cum, the look and feel of which is very similar to just a lot of pre-cum.

And I can get orgasm without an erection.

From my own quite extensive research from Eunuch Archive, which has a special section for transsexual issues, Androcur or Spiro work on reducing testosterone. They would impact erections the fastest. But taken for just a short time, it could be reverseable. I can atest to that as I stopped after about 3 or 4 months, and all my functions returned after a few months. (But everybody is affected differently.)

Taking estrogen does not immediately impact on erections. But impact on your testes (such as infertility, and possibly erectile ability) tends to be permanent quite quickly. However, everybody react differently. As for me, when I added estrogen, I get more sexual and libido, but can stay completely soft no matter what we were doing. I could cum completely soft and small. But I often enjoyed the sensuality without any wish to cum. (Feminine feelings?)

So returning to the original first post a couple of years ago, the big question is what do you want. You want feminization but maintain erectile functions. It is a toss up. Everybody is different. The best advise I could suggest is to try in small doses, and continue if you like what you are feeling, and stop immediately if you don't.

Don't jump in with high doses. Effects, regardless of whether you want them or not, become irreversible all that much faster. Meanwhile, high doses of hormones could be very dangerous on your liver as well as many other systems required for your health.

For your reference, I had to stop hormones because I developed anemia, depression, completely loss of energy and ability to concentrate, and weight gains. And from my research, these are some of the most common effects of castration.

My libido remain low. My ability to get erect remain low. My cum remain small amounts of mostly clear fluid. But at least all the nasty side effects stopped. So I am pretty happy with my current status.

Definitely, I would suggest any thought of surgery only after you had been on hormones and have been absolutely sure that you like all the effects ... both the intended and un-intended.