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Perhaps a hug is in order to help you remember the happy dance?

Also, perhaps the news that Roy Halladay is getting traded to Philadelphia in a 3-way trade between Philly, Toronto, and Seattle?

Actually, I think I need the hug now.
Signing Halladay sounds , but losing Cliff Lee to the Mariners as part of the deal would be a shock.


It is believed the Phillies are trading Lee for a few reasons (from MLB.com):

* They do not believe they can sign Lee to an extension before he becomes a free agent after the 2010 season.

* Lee makes $9M next season, the Phillies need payroll relief to afford Halladay's $15.75M salary (but it's reported Toronto will pay $6M of it).

* But it is believed the reason the Phillies are shipping Lee instead of right-hander Joe Blanton, who will make around $7M or more next season, is that Lee brings a greater haul of prospects in return.


Blue Jay's fans can't be impressed with the idea of paying $6M of Halladay's salary after he's left.
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Signing Halladay sounds , but losing Cliff Lee to the Mariners as part of the deal would be a shock.


It is believed the Phillies are trading Lee for a few reasons (from MLB.com):

* They do not believe they can sign Lee to an extension before he becomes a free agent after the 2010 season.

* Lee makes $9M next season, the Phillies need payroll relief to afford Halladay's $15.75M salary (but it's reported Toronto will pay $6M of it).

* But it is believed the reason the Phillies are shipping Lee instead of right-hander Joe Blanton, who will make around $7M or more next season, is that Lee brings a greater haul of prospects in return.


Blue Jay's fans can't be impressed with the idea of paying $6M of Halladay's salary after he's left.
17 NFL games? I'm sure that will impress the players.

I don't think the Jays fans will complain too much as they will probably be getting a handful of good players/prospects in return. He was gone no matter what, so getting the best they can for him makes this Jays fan feel a little better(it still sucks that he will be gone, but since I was rooting for the Phillies before((unless it is against the Jays)) I don't mind rooting even more for them now that they have Halladay. I rooted for them because they got Stairsy(Matt Stairs), a good Canadian ball player.

It's weird. While both Lee and Halladay are elite Ace pitchers, I can't help but feel that Halladay is more of a team player. I mean, no matter how bad the Jays have been over the years he still signed with them. After Riccardi royally screwed the team over(by lousy signings and lousy trades), I honestly do not blame him for finally wanting to leave. Cliff Lee, on the other hand, comes across as more of a mercenary-type pitcher. He goes where the most chance to win is, and that shows by how many times he is traded/moves. I would love to have Cliff Lee on my team, but I believe Halladay would have more team loyalty.

As Philly fans, do you and Jennifer agree or disagree with me?

Either way, I think the Mariners will be a good team this year, Philly will be even better than last year, and the Jays will stink. The players they get will help, but they will still stink. The worst thing that happened to the Jays was signing Wells to that bloated contract(they can't even trade that dead weight as no one else, even the Yankees, wants to eat the cost of that contract)! Thanks again Riccardi, for screwing the team, you jackass!
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weird. While both Lee and Halladay are elite Ace pitchers, I can't help but feel that Halladay is more of a team player. I mean, no matter how bad the Jays have been over the years he still signed with them. After Riccardi royally screwed the team over(by lousy signings and lousy trades), I honestly do not blame him for finally wanting to leave. Cliff Lee, on the other hand, comes across as more of a mercenary-type pitcher. He goes where the most chance to win is, and that shows by how many times he is traded/moves. I would love to have Cliff Lee on my team, but I believe Halladay would have more team loyalty.

As Philly fans, do you and Jennifer agree or disagree with me?

Either way, I think the Mariners will be a good team this year, Philly will be even better than last year, and the Jays will stink. The players they get will help, but they will still stink. The worst thing that happened to the Jays was signing Wells to that bloated contract(they can't even trade that dead weight as no one else, even the Yankees, wants to eat the cost of that contract)! Thanks again Riccardi, for screwing the team, you jackass!
A shame Lee had to go just imaginr having Halladay then Lee and if Cole gets his focaus back that would have been a killer 1,2,3 punch but trading Lee to get a certifed ace which Phillie hasn't had since Steve Carlton so i can live with trading Lee and besides after 2010 he would have wanted Yankee pay ie triple what he's worth


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A shame Lee had to go just imaginr having Halladay then Lee and if Cole gets his focaus back that would have been a killer 1,2,3 punch but trading Lee to get a certifed ace which Phillie hasn't had since Steve Carlton so i can live with trading Lee and besides after 2010 he would have wanted Yankee pay ie triple what he's worth


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And when he goes, the Yankees payroll will be over 400 million. Baseball needs a salary cap, big time!

Philly couldn't really afford to keep Lee after getting Halladay. One thing I will be curious to see is how Halladay reacts to the National League. Will he dominate still or will the fact that he has to hit in the lineup affect his game? He might get replaced on the basepaths to get a run across. Knowing how he enjoys the complete games, I know he won't like that too much.

So, if he does go to Philly(no official announcement yet) I will be rooting alongside you this upcoming season. Hope you don't mind a band-wagon jumper, Jen.:D
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If the Yankees are crazy enough to spend 400 m a year on payroll let them and the Yankees will soon end up bankrupt
Reaction here is like the reaction of a dugout during a perfect game as no one want's to say anything till the last out as all are affraid of jinking the game and doesn't everyone love the Phillies? oh wait a min everyone loves the Phillie fantic
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No jinx. Halladay is now a Phillie.

It's weird. I've followed the Jays for so long, and it feels like I've been punched in the gut. I'm happy for Roy, but sad as a Jay's fan. I hope the prospects pan out. Heck, we didn't even get J.A. Happ!

Unfortunately, the Yankees will never go bankrupt. The taxpayers basically payed a portion of the costs for the new stadium because Steinbrenner bitched and moaned and whined and cried about how he couldn't afford it. If you couldn't afford it, you shouldn't have made it.

I hate the new stadium. They say that the Yankees have such great numbers and how they hit so many home runs at home this year. Yeah. That is due to the fact that there is a jet stream there that carries the ball! Also, the one side is really short, so it is easy(well, easy for a professional ball player) to hit a home run!

Plus, I hate A-Roid. He is a human hemmorhoid, as he is a royal pain in the ass!
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No jinx. Halladay is now a Phillie.
Good news for us Phillies fans. Halladay through to 2013. Just have to wait for the press conference tomorrow.

But the club's payroll is getting quite large, it may even catch the Mets soon.
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It's weird. While both Lee and Halladay are elite Ace pitchers, I can't help but feel that Halladay is more of a team player. I mean, no matter how bad the Jays have been over the years he still signed with them. After Riccardi royally screwed the team over(by lousy signings and lousy trades), I honestly do not blame him for finally wanting to leave. Cliff Lee, on the other hand, comes across as more of a mercenary-type pitcher. He goes where the most chance to win is, and that shows by how many times he is traded/moves. I would love to have Cliff Lee on my team, but I believe Halladay would have more team loyalty.

As Philly fans, do you and Jennifer agree or disagree with me?
As long as the pitcher has the desire to win I'm not too bothered how mercenary they are. If there's one player on a team that you can get away with being a bit selfish, then it's the starting pitcher, it can be a lonely role. Fans love a winning pitcher.

It would be tough to lose Cliff Lee. His loss at the Phillies might put too much pressure on Halladay. Then add in affect of his switch to the NL, it may be a difficult first season.

Remember Lee did get the two wins for the Phillies in the World Series. But it's a good time to trade now.
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As long as the pitcher has the desire to win I'm not too bothered how mercenary they are. If there's one player on a team that you can get away with being a bit selfish, then it's the starting pitcher, it can be a lonely role. Fans love a winning pitcher.

It would be tough to lose Cliff Lee. His loss at the Phillies might put too much pressure on Halladay. Then add in affect of his switch to the NL, it may be a difficult first season.

Remember Lee did get the two wins for the Phillies in the World Series. But it's a good time to trade now.
Halladay thrives under pressure. Being in the AL East, one has to be used to pressure. He faced the Yankees, Red Sox, and Tampa Bay numerous times, and all three teams had potent offenses.

He will help the other pitchers immensely. His work ethic is unparalled. Cole Hamels(SP?) will benefit from him big-time. Halladay won't put up with his pouting and will set him straight.
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Jennifer, I have some bad news. The Flyers stunk to high heaven again and lost 6-1. What a massive change in fortunes for them.
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A shame Lee had to go just imaginr having Halladay then Lee and if Cole gets his focaus back that would have been a killer 1,2,3 punch but trading Lee to get a certifed ace which Phillie hasn't had since Steve Carlton so i can live with trading Lee and besides after 2010 he would have wanted Yankee pay ie triple what he's worth

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That would've been one hell of a pitching line-up.

At least lets hope Cole Hamels is back to 100% in 2010. And that Lidge remembers how to save games again.

We all know Lee will take free agency in 2010 (Yankees or possibly Red Sox), so if he has to leave the Phillies, now is the best time to get the best trade for him.

My unrealistic, but perfect way to trade Cliff Lee to the Mariners would be for Ichiro Suzuki (plus a prospect or two).

Ichiro and Jimmy Rollins are two of my favourite ballplayers.
And I just wish Howard wouldn't strikeout so often, he also needs to get his batting average up.

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Yankees bankrupt... That would be beautiful.

They'd probably get a Government bailout if things got that bad. Enough Yankees fans would moan that America's Team must be saved. Damn Yankees.
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