Something for the guys

[randolph]

Yes, I have been watching the explosion of shemale sites recently. The interest is exploding! I must admit, going out and finding a live tranny is very tempting. So far it is just a fantasy. Years ago I "experienced" some girls at the Mustang Ranch Nev. I found the experience exciting but not very satisfying. It was obvious the girls were just doing their job, no emotion. With a tranny, if she has an erection, that at least indicates some sexual excitement and that's is the real turn on, to know that she wants sex too. To me satisfying her sexual needs would be very desirable and very exciting. Oh well dream on.

[Bionca]

It was this part that stood out to me, from the second link:

"Some of it crosses over into the anal niche. That's the only way transsexuals can copulate. Another crossover is the strap-on dildo websites. Over the last few years, countless websites have opened that feature women with strap-on dildos having sex with men," Gallon told XBIZ. "That's only a small step away from seeing a shemale having sex with a man."

"The straight audience has seen a lot of stuff, and I think they're just looking for something a bit kinkier and different. A lot of them get turned on to it, and stay with it. Most of the straight audience considers it just a fantasy. They're not generally looking for a live experience. They don't want to be caught with a transsexual, so it's just a fantasy - almost like forbidden fruit. They can look, but they can't touch," Gallon said.

It squares with my personal observations about guys.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by Bionca

It was this part that stood out to me, from the second link:

"Some of it crosses over into the anal niche. That's the only way transsexuals can copulate. Another crossover is the strap-on dildo websites. Over the last few years, countless websites have opened that feature women with strap-on dildos having sex with men," Gallon told XBIZ. "That's only a small step away from seeing a shemale having sex with a man."

"The straight audience has seen a lot of stuff, and I think they're just looking for something a bit kinkier and different. A lot of them get turned on to it, and stay with it. Most of the straight audience considers it just a fantasy. They're not generally looking for a live experience. They don't want to be caught with a transsexual, so it's just a fantasy - almost like forbidden fruit. They can look, but they can't touch," Gallon said.

It squares with my personal observations about guys.

I suppose fantasies about trannys are similar to fantasies about genetic females. We admire the beauty and think about the sex. Ideally, what if we all had dual sex like futanaries? The duality would disappear and we could all love each other equally. Just a dream.

[MxKanAmrKan]

Good article thanks for posting, I knew lots of guys watch all kinds of porn but didnt know specifically trans porn was booming like it is.

[Bionca]

I figured out what about the articles I didn't like. I'm big on reality, so even when reality slaps me in the face I need to take it in stride. It is the reality of the following:

1) My body is a fetish
2) The vastest majority of guys who fetishize bodies like mine are also ashamed of that
3) I am often viewed as a cock with a girl attached
4) Even guys who are surrounded by the hottest TGs in the world (Grooby) get married to cis women to settle down (not exactly sure why that bugs me but it does)
5) Liking bodies like mine is a kink, like a spanking thing or bondage

None of these things is surprising obviously. What bugs me is how this is just "how it is". The reality that, not only have I been correct, but this is just accepted as perfectly understandable (unless I missed something there) and passes without comment or further, deeper discussion.

The articles (to me) read "Trannys are weird kinks for het guys who are far to ashamed to admit it, but they are legion. It's good to produce tranny porn."

I'm totally open to different observations on this or pointing out how/why/where I'm getting stuff wrong.

[smc]

Bionca, I'm sorry to say that you are probably right. For most guys, a body like yours is a fetish, one they are ashamed of, and one they might only use as a kink. That in and of itself is sad (the "ashamed" part), but what is sadder is when the shittiness of such guys makes gurls like you feel bad. I, for one, have strived to live a life in which I try really hard to never be ashamed of any feelings I have, indeed to embrace them, unless they hurt others. Men like those you mention ought to be the ones suffering from serious self-esteem problems, not the people they hurt with their ill feelings.

[ila]

Originally Posted by Bionca

Here are a couple articles abut you all.

http://www.examiner.com/x-18935-Phoe...ual-Revolution

http://www.xbiz.com/articles/99429/transsexual

I'm not sure what to think about these.

It seems to me that both of these references started out to be a serious article, but rather quickly they turned into a flippant, irrelevant commentary on personal opinions.

Originally Posted by Madison Claire

Man's 'secret love' of transsexual women: Do new trends predict a second sexual revolution?

The first thing that bothers me about the first reference is the title of the article. A love of transsexual women is not a secret for all of us. I don’t go around shouting to the world that I have an attraction to transsexual women, the same as I don’t go around shouting to the world that I have an attraction to natal women. I do however, talk about the transsexual women to my friends and co-workers and if anyone ever asks me if I have an attraction to transsexual women I will say, without hesitation, that I do. I will even say that I have a very deep attraction to some transsexual women and that I would willingly enter into a LTR with a transsexual woman which would even include marriage with the right woman.

Originally Posted by Madison Claire

transsexual “admirers,” as they’re called

Here we go with the labels. It would seem to me that the author, of the article, has come up her own term. I have never called myself a transsexual admirer; the same as I’ve never called myself a natal woman admirer. I don’t see any need to try to pin that label on me or anyone else that is attracted to transwomen.

From your second reference, Bionca:

Originally Posted by Steve Gallon

"Most of my members are straight. Many of them are probably married, or in a relationship with a woman, and this is a fetish on the side," Gallon said.

Originally Posted by Steve Gallon

"The straight audience has seen a lot of stuff, and I think they're just looking for something a bit kinkier and different. A lot of them get turned on to it, and stay with it. Most of the straight audience considers it just a fantasy. They're not generally looking for a live experience. They don't want to be caught with a transsexual, so it's just a fantasy — almost like forbidden fruit. They can look, but they can't touch," Gallon said.

Originally Posted by Bionca

I figured out what about the articles I didn't like. I'm big on reality, so even when reality slaps me in the face I need to take it in stride. It is the reality of the following:

1) My body is a fetish
2) The vastest majority of guys who fetishize bodies like mine are also ashamed of that
3) I am often viewed as a cock with a girl attached
4) Even guys who are surrounded by the hottest TGs in the world (Grooby) get married to cis women to settle down (not exactly sure why that bugs me but it does)
5) Liking bodies like mine is a kink, like a spanking thing or bondage

None of these things is surprising obviously. What bugs me is how this is just "how it is". The reality that, not only have I been correct, but this is just accepted as perfectly understandable (unless I missed something there) and passes without comment or further, deeper discussion.

The articles (to me) read "Trannys are weird kinks for het guys who are far to ashamed to admit it, but they are legion. It's good to produce tranny porn."

I'm totally open to different observations on this or pointing out how/why/where I'm getting stuff wrong.

Bionca, you are more than partially correct, except that what has been said in both references (articles) doesn’t apply to everyone. I would like to reply to your post point by point:

1. Transwomen are definitely not a fetish to me. I am genuinely attracted to transwomen. I don’t know why, I just know that I am. Nobody has ever said to me that I have a fetish for natal women nor has anyone ever asked me why I am attracted to natal women; I just am. I do know that I am more attracted to transwomen than I am to natal women and I do know that it is not a fetish, but genuine feelings.

2. I am not ashamed to say that I am attracted to transwomen. Nor am I ashamed of how transwomen look.

3. I view transwomen as women. I think of transwomen as being female through and through. I rarely think of anatomy. Yes, I will notice genitalia but that is not my focus. My focus is the person as a whole.

4. I’m sorry, Bionca but I have no answer for that and I do not understand why anyone who would be surrounded with transwomen would rather marry a natal woman.. I am not surrounded by transwomen, but there are lots of natal women where I am. Still I would rather marry and settle down with a transwoman.

5. Liking transwomen is not a kink for me. It is a deep feeling. I can only think of transwoman as a whole person.

Thank you ila. I have had feelings for transwomen for quite a while and joined this forum in hopes of better understanding my own sexuality. Your post is the best and most helpful one I have read yet.

Originally Posted by ila

1. Transwomen are definitely not a fetish to me. I am genuinely attracted to transwomen. I don't know why, I just know that I am. Nobody has ever said to me that I have a fetish for natal women nor has anyone ever asked me why I am attracted to natal women; I just am. I do know that I am more attracted to transwomen than I am to natal women and I do know that it is not a fetish, but genuine feelings.

2. I am not ashamed to say that I am attracted to transwomen. Nor am I ashamed of how transwomen look.

3. I view transwomen as women. I think of transwomen as being female through and through. I rarely think of anatomy. Yes, I will notice genitalia but that is not my focus. My focus is the person as a whole.

4. I'm sorry, Bionca but I have no answer for that and I do not understand why anyone who would be surrounded with transwomen would rather marry a natal woman.. I am not surrounded by transwomen, but there are lots of natal women where I am. Still I would rather marry and settle down with a transwoman.

5. Liking transwomen is not a kink for me. It is a deep feeling. I can only think of transwoman as a whole person.

[Creedence]

Originally Posted by Bionca

4) Even guys who are surrounded by the hottest TGs in the world (Grooby) get married to cis women to settle down (not exactly sure why that bugs me but it does)

I think I understand why that would bother you. The guys who are surrounded by the most gorgeous T girls don't have a problem having sex with them and making money off of them yet they still won't consider a relationship, is insulting.

As if shes good to fool around with but not to settle down with even though they are still beautiful people.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by Creedence

I think I understand why that would bother you. The guys who are surrounded by the most gorgeous T girls don't have a problem having sex with them and making money off of them yet they still won't consider a relationship, is insulting.

As if shes good to fool around with but not to settle down with even though they are still beautiful people.

I actually have no business voicing my trouble with another person's relationship. It's none of my business who he married and why. Projecting my own insecurities on another's relationship isn't cool or fair.