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Hi Rocío-
You might want to check out Second Type Women site's Orchidectomy section. From what I've seen, castrated tranys "seem" to have better feminization without male hormone blockers, plus it's better for you liver, which is always a good thing. Good luck-WDW |
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I'm aTgurl with large milky breast. Been on hormones for a long time. Hope to go nutless soon. I love the look and I'm sure it will cut down on the male hormones.
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The best looking Trannies are those who are castrated, female hormones work a lot better without testosterone blockers. Plus I love those tiny penises, they look good enough to eat!
Let them female juices flow! |
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yes this is true....
hormones cause teste shrinkage plus everyones testes can pull up sometimes such as when you are on your back or on all fours...im pretty sure none of these girls are castrated! lol! |
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Don,t they have a surgery that will put them in your abdomen.I know some SRS put them there so they still keep there sex drive. So why couldn,t this happen.
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I am a pre-op transsexual woman. I live full-time as a woman. I have been on hormones for about 3 years, and I have boobs that I grew all by myself.
I thought maybe I could clear some things up. You don't need testosterone to have a sex drive. A lot of people seem to think that removing testosterone totally kills your sex drive. Testosterone makes you urgently horny, like you just need to cum. If you don't have testosterone you're probably not going to masturbate five times a day, but you can still have a sex drive. Note that this does not apply to sexually compulsive women who were usually molested when they were younger, because they like to masturbate every day anyway. When I was full of testosterone I was horny most of the time, but I was also kinda disgusted with myself and there wasn't really much feeling behind it. Being full of estrogen I have a much deeper meaningful need for sex. It's different, but it's definitely still a sex drive. I even hear trans girls say things sometimes about having no sex drive or arousal without testosterone, and I really have to wonder how feminine your brain is if having estrogen instead of testosterone makes you lose sexual function. Most trans women have a regular female sex drive. About hormones Everybody has some estrogen and some testosterone. The testicles are not the only things that make testosterone; your adrenal glands make testosterone, and in some people they make a lot. I know one person who had her testicles removed and her pituitary started making excessive testosterone. So sometimes you can have a lot of testosterone without testicles. After all, genetic women have no testicles, and some of them have plenty testosterone. If you take testosterone (like a bodybuilder on steroids) your body will eventually atrophy your testicles because they're not needed. Your body also tries to balance itself out. Habitual steroid abusers eventually need breast reductions because their body starts producing a lot of estrogen and they grow little boob lumps (gynecomastia). The opposite is also true to some extenet. All sex hormones are steroids, and all steroids compete with each other to some degree for steroid receptors. Testosterone blocks estrogen and estrogen blocks testosterone. This leads us to the fact that trans girls need to be on testosterone blockers. It is actually more important to be on testosterone blockers than it is to be on estrogen. Being on estrogen alone won't usually do much except maybe give you a tiny lump behind your nipples because you still have all that testosterone, and when your estrogen increases your body might increase your testosterone to compensate. Growing boobs can be difficult Most trans women would really like to grow boobs instead of just getting a boob job. This can be very difficult. Everybody is affected differently by different hormones and different drugs. Some people grow big boobs just by taking 2mg of estrogen per day and a testosterone blocker, but this is very rare. Most people's liver destroys the majority of estrogen taken in pill form. People generally resort to upping their dosage to high levels (greater risk of blood clots), switching to Premarin (horse estrogen which is more effective but also has greater risk of side effects), or switching to injections. Some people try various forms of progesterone. There are also different testosterone blockers, but the vast majority of people in the US take Spiro. But the bottom line is many people go crazy and will do whatever it takes for feminization with no regard for their ability to maintain an erection or ejaculate. If they think it'll help they'll probably get an orchiectomy (castration). Testosterone blockers are chemical castration A genetic female has some testosterone. Even a castrated male has some testosterone. But a transsexual on testosterone blockers usually has much lower testosterone than either one. When you're on testosterone blockers your testicles will atrophy. In a few months you'll be permanently sterile. In about a year your testicles will be much smaller. After that, you are essentially castrated. If you stop taking testosterone blockers your testicles probably aren't going to make a recovery and return to their normal size. Many people who have gone back off T-blockers regained some testosterone after a few months, but that's not guaranteed. Many people can stop taking T-blockers and as long as they still take estrogen that's enough to suppress the testosterone. I stopped taking T-blockers and estrogen for a month because my meds got lost in the mail (actually the Indian post office sent them to the wrong country), and I felt totally run down, severely depressed, and crazier than usual. I also lost 10 lbs. and am close to looking anorexic. I did not, however, revert to waking up with a raging hard-on and grow hair on my ass just because I haven't gotten rid of my testicles. Some people can be on testosterone blockers for years, but as soon as they stop their testosterone will shoot back up because their pituitary makes a lot of testosterone. But testosterone blockers will still permanantly change your body. Most girls in shemale porn aren't taking hormones Or at least they're not taking significant levels. It's hard enough to grow boobs when you're doing all you can. It's nearly impossible to find some middle ground where you can grow boobs but still use your cock on demand like a pornstar. A trans girl on estrogen gets a dark stripe all the way down her urethra. This is very easy to spot. When you're on hormones, you can still have an orgasm, but you're not going to shoot a lot of cum. Some people have totally dry orgasms within a few months. Some people still produce ejaculate after years on hormones, but it's a lot less, and it's not going to get airborn. Notice that in most shemale porn they also have obvious boob jobs. Plenty non-pornstar trans girls get boob jobs, but in porn it's at least 90% because most of them aren't even trying to feminize except superficially through surgery. About erections... When you have the testosterone of a male you wake up with an erection every day. When you don't, you don't wake up with an erection. It just never happens. And you don't get random erections for no reason throughout the day. This doesn't mean you can't get an erection, but it does make 100% mental. Some trans women are proud of never getting erections, but for many it's definitely possible. Still, you have to be legitimately turned on, so people who are on hormones often use Viagra to get it up for porn. Viagra works fine because all it does is dilate the blood vessels and give you an artificial hard-on. No testosterone required. A lot of girls on hormones say they can't get it up. You definitely have to be in the right place mentally. I get them, but they're often pretty painful. Many times I've felt like I had the world's biggest erection and ... well ... it was barely hard. But usually things work OK. Why would anybody get castrated? Testosterone blockers can be harsh. I take Cypro (Cyproterone, or Androcur). That's what many people outside the US take, but in the US it is not approved by the FDA, so all the trans women in the US take Spiro (Spironolactone, or Aldactone). Spiro is a strong potassium-sparing diuretic. When I took it, it constipated me and gave me heart palpations and severe muscle cramps if I got a lot of potassium. Spiro also hinders feminization a bit by counteracting progesterone. Even after a few years of testosterone blockers, people will still keep taking them just to be sure they don't have testosterone. Getting your testicles removed usually means you can stop taking testosterone blockers (unless your body goes crazy and makes a lot of testosterone without testicles). Then you can be sure that all you need is a little estrogen. It saves you from taking a ton of pills, taking harsh diuretics, and having to look at a weird half-empty scrotum in the mirror. Physiologically it doesn't make much difference whether or not you have testicles if those testicles aren't functioning anyway. In any civilized country, the people getting orchiectomies have already chemically castrated themselves. No hospital is going to just let you walk in and get the procedure done. You have to be transsexual and have been on hormones for a long time, and then it's just done so you can stop taking T blockers. After an orchiectomy you will stop taking T blockers and you will actually have slightly higher testosterone because of the little bit your body makes outside the testicles. |
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Some prices
You can get a boob job for about $4,000. A good one will be more. You can get a basic facelift for about $4,000, but you can easily spend more like $40,000 - $50,000 for facial feminization. An orchiectomy (castration) costs about $2,000. SRS (sex reassignment) costs about $12,000 in Thailand and $20,000 in the US. SRS with limited depth (i.e. a hoo-hoo that you can't put anything in) costs around $8,000. A lot of people seem to get the orchiectomy first just because it is a relatively cheap and simple procedure and it makes them feel like they're accomplishing something towards their transition. It's not going to magically make you more feminine if you've already blocked all your testosterone anyway. If you're getting your hormone levels checked by a doctor, you should be able to greatly reduce your intake of T-blockers after a year or two, so I really don't see the point in the procedure except for cosmetic purposes. I don't think a half-empty scrotum looks sexy anymore than I think big dangling vagina lips look sexy. But that's a moot point, because if you're ever considering getting full SRS, you have to keep most of the scrotal skin so the doctor has more to work with during the labioplasty. Public Service Announcement About Genital Mutilation Fantasies I need to say that I'm offended by the OP Tailia, CuriousGirl (who I've bitched about plenty before) and a few others. They in no uncertain terms have said they get off on the idea of trans women being castrated with or without consent. That's disgusting. If someone truly wants such a procedure, knows the consequences, and is not being coerced it's fine, but otherwise we are talking about genital mutililation. CuriousGirl is obviously lying about most of the things she posts and experiences she says she has had. I don't think she's even female, because she's shown that she knows very little about the female anatomy. I even had to correct her about how tampons work. But playing along with these sociopaths (or just plain retards in the case of CuriousGirl) is the same as saying female circumcision is OK. Actually it's worse because at least with female circumcision the recipient's hormones (and therefore their entire mental and physiological state) aren't permanently altered. It's horrifying that the rest of you can sit there and read things like, "I do adore the thought of shemale balls clinking into the pan," without calling the person saying it a sick freak. Maybe you want to castrate people. Maybe you want to rape and murder people. Keep it to yourself, though, and try to pretend you're sane. When insane people start supporting each other in their psychopathic fantasies, that's when you get NAMBLA. I was glad to see Ila (and then Hank) speak up about this at post 193, although that seemed mostly focused on one particular guy who didn't seem all that bad to me. Public Service Announcement About Words That Offend Trannys If you're going to talk about castration, you should know that the medical procedure is called an orchiectomy. Castration is what it's called when you're chopping the balls off a farm animal. Castration is what you say you want to do to a sex offender. The medical community and the trans community almost exclusively use the clinical term orchiectomy. "Castrate" and "shemale" (and even "ladyboy") are going to offend a lot of trans girls because to them you are referencing their maleness. I know most people here mean no disrespect. I'm just saying you'll have to watch yourself in public if you don't want to look like an asshole. And for most trans women, the word "tranny" is kinda like "nigger" for black people or "redneck" for white people. Some people may refer to themselves or others like themselves using those words, but they're still going to be offended if someone else gives them that label. Responding to specific things in the thread... Quote:
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First, Provera is not used for chemical castration. It is not a testosterone blocker. It is a progestin, and not a very good one in pill form (it is mostly distroyed in the stomach and liver). Depo-provera (the injectable form) also has bad side effects for most people including weight gain, often severe depression, and usually no positive effects to speak of. Provera is used to treat menstrual problems, and Depo-provera is used for birth control. Second, no pill makes your penis shrink. Being on testosterone blockers for years only causes it to shrink some because you're not erect for hours a day so it naturally shrinks a little, but you're not going to get an "innie" penis unless you were already microscopic. And stopping taking whatever it was won't make your penis grow again unless you start getting erections all the time again. Third, estrogen has more of an anti-testosterone effect than progesterone, so if you had no testosterone and you started estrogen and stopped Provera you wouldn't have testosterone come back. |
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What percentage of Trannies have been castrated, in North America and in Asia? Anyone know?
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Hello Everyone,
I'm new here, but this thread caught my attention. My friend Felix used to perform castrations on ladyboys at his practice in Philadelphia. He always tried to talk the patient into keeping enough of the scrotum in case the patient later decided to have SRS (labiaplasty material). After the testicles are removed, the tissue known as the epididymis swells for a few weeks as healing occurs. If the epididymis is not removed, the scrotum still looks like there are testicles residing in it for awhile. He started showing patients the removed testicles because some accused him of not performing the procedure when they saw the immediate post-op results. Although I read a post which stated how quickly the operation could be performed, Felix usually took about two hours. Some of this extra time was probably due to the fact he was elderly. Although he was retired from general practice, he continued to perform castrations (bi-lateral orchiectomies) for quite a few years. He probably should have retired totally before he started having physical problems. He would remove some of the scrotum for additional fee. Felix claimed much of the ability to achieve an erection after the surgery depended on how often the patient kept trying to achieve erections. If she just didn't bother, then the ability would decrease quickly. It is also important to realize some testosterone is produced by the adrenal gland. Each person is different. He claimed ejaculatory fluid would probably be minute and clear. Some have asked why a ladyboy would want to be rid of her testicles. The obvious reason is to be rid of most of her testosterone, but I like this answer better: " My panties fit better." It would probably be a lot more comfortable to tuck. Felix wrote a book about castration which can probably still be found on the Internet. Anyway, I like to see them smooth with most of the scrotum removed. I wonder how many of us male readers have wondered what it would feel like to not have those little hairy things dangling down there? I've been told it feels pretty good. Thanks, Ron |
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The name of the book is "Handbook for Castration."
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Dont know how surgery is made, but I appreciate that the balls sack be completely trimmed off, leaving the cock alone, no flesh hanging !
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Having only just joined this site, I have read all the posts in this thread, and enjoyed reading the comments.
I do like the idea of no balls and/or no sac. I am sure for those that have made the step, it would be so much better, in all respects. Without the testes, the girls would be on hormones anyway, so there would be no real loss, and plenty to gain, as in, more feminism. Certainly the visual aspect would be more pleasing to them and their partners. |
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As we all know Thailand has now banned the cosmetic castration of ladyboys but you can still get it done in the U.S - how weird is that ?
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there are sites on the web were you'll find a real story of transitional girls. However this is no porno stuff but real life with emotions. There are pictures of the genitals before and after castration
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OK, could you please, give some links? I do know only bmezine.com, but that's something disgusting!
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There are several Yahoo Groups dealing with the subject of castration in general, but this one might be of particular interest:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Castra...guid=340635517 |
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Unfortunately this system does not allow me to post a website link (that is something I do not grasp), but I could suggest that you check for Brianne (she is the one writing the story) and orchiectomy on a web search engine. There are more sites, but, again, apparently I can not quote a link
there is also a nice (although less serious) short footage of an interview with a Japanese "girl" who just had orchiectomy and srs. I bet you'd lile that (maybe more if you could speak Japanese) |
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bmezine.com has scads of stuff, not just the extreme topix and pix.
If you post a few pix you can get a limited time subscription that allows one to check it all out and see if any of the niches are of interest. ![]() |
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Joanna Jet is there, she definitely has not been castrated. In fact many of the pictures that you have posted are not of castrated girls. Do you understand what "castration" means?
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To answer your question, yes. I doubt you personally or medically know the background of all the girls posted to validate your claim. The pictures were posted in the spirit of the thread, and in the absence of any dangly bits , they do just that.
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Joanna Jet is there, she definitely has not been castrated.
Although I agree with your general comment on the "spirit" of this thread, I have indeed seen a movie where Joanna Jet (I didn't who she was then) appeared completely without balls even in close range shots. Well, I guess we will see in her next movies |
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Castration is only having the job half way done.
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Can anyone suggest where we might find beautifull ladyboys being castrated on video? Surely there has to be some.
It's just so much more convincing to see the testis being cut. |
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If that's what you need, then I will suggest you to check out the extreme heavy mod section, on bmezine. I am only interested in her, if she is castrated, not being castrated. |
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What sense castration and left cook? sex=viagra. no viagra, no sex?
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My doctor has approved my surgery and am waiting for the appointment. I was scheduled for it before but I balked when they were only going to give me a local. this time they will give me some valium or something to make the process less scary.
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How doeas a castrated tranny have any sex drive? or does an erection not need testosterone. I'm sure I've seen pics of castrated trannies ejaculating. How ?If they use HRT then surely this defeats the object of castration?
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I wish for the sake of porn that I could give a good cum shot, but in the rest of my life I'm really glad I can jerk off anywhere (like on the train, or airplane, or in my car,) and I don't have to deal with any mess. Plus, its really nice that I can have multiple orgasms (which I don't necessarily atrribute to being castrated) which I regularly do in many of my movies. So yeah, there is no cum, but I enjoy myself longer than most.
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It is true testosterone is largely responsible for sex drive in males and females. Testosterone is produced in smaller quantities in the adrenal gland. The amount produced in the adrenal gland varies in each person. Many of us assume a Tgirl might wish to have her testicles removed just to rid herself of most of her testosterone, but there are some who just don't want them for other reasons. Large amounts of testosterone are not required to obtain an erection. It is not likely a girl will have a large amount of ejaculatory fluid if there isn't a substantial amount of testosterone present. I have seen some movies where castrated Tgirls look like they have ejaculated after oral sex when in reality the partner is just spitting or dripping something else out of his or her mouth to enhance the scene. You also stated the possibility of HRT. This would make a good discussion for another thread. Remember what I stated about reasons for castration. Some of us are more interested in the look rather than the effects, so HRT isn't always a bad thing for somebody making a movie.
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a true sissie has no need for her balls anyhow since she is in the female role during sex
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Shemales should have their balls! They are sexual persons just like the rest of us. And without their balls they will not get aroused or have any sexual pleasure. I love my shemales to have big cock and balls to suck on. I love dominant shemales with big balls.
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This is a very interesting procedure. I've never heard of it. I think it's kind of sexy.
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well here's my personal banning pics! Alison Faraday's castration op.
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That is just so wild! Especially the one with the ball in the dish! Thanks
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great pics
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Possible price and where it can be done? I doubt there are many surgens to apply that kind of operation; because it sounds kinky and probably most of the doctors will refuse to do it. Is there a pic of mentioned operation? |
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Very Nice! Does anyone have any pictures of the Hijra from India?
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and many (most) have their cocks cut off at the same time....all without any form of pain killers.
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Nope... Why would that be cool?
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That is extreame. <Eek!>
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well in fact here you'll find some pictures of hijras. The last one shows the results of the "operation" on an apparently happy hijra, while a friend is waiting for her turn (determined by the stars). The whole ritual is extremely cruel and painful, and has apparently not changed over the centuriesa. You'll find descriptions of it in several books and articles. Please note that most of the reports on these sad and proud people are very passionate and sympathetic and not erotic in any way. I think they deserve all our respect.
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