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Have any of you been to Iraq or Afghanistan? Have you seen firsthand what actually goes on over there? (And no, the TV, newspaper, internet etc. doesn't count) There is alot more than the media outlets will ever show, and alot of the troops that are/were over there are actually rebuilding the Iraqi infrastructure. I've seen the troops actually going to the schools to teach Iraqi children, helping the nationals get water purification stations and electrical systems up and running and rebuilding hospitals. We are also training the Iraqi and Afghani military to be more efficient in what they do and helping the police force to help maintain order. As much as you don't like it, there are people over there that are doing good and to disgrace our
soldiers who have paid the ultimate price is not cool at all. They are doing a job that I can guarantee that not alot of people would ever step up to the plate to do.

Hank, I am deeply saddened by your post. Please use a bit more discretion when posting.
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Hank, I'm sure Obama would tend to disagree with you. Take a gander at this article.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090525/...a_memorial_day
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Kindly move you political opinions to another forum and stop bashing our military and our government. What has happened in the past we cannot change. Maybe Obama can make it better so let's wait and see/
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Kindly move you political opinions to another forum and stop bashing our military and our government. What has happened in the past we cannot change. Maybe Obama can make it better so let's wait and see/
Yes, I certainly expect Obama to make it better, he cannot possibly do it worse. Besides, it's a free world (here at least) where criticism is not only a right but an obligation.

I'm not bashing your military - but yes, I'm bashing Geo Bush for what I consider a catastrophic presidency that has had a tremenduosly negative impact on the entire globe.

As for all the young women and men who have been killed in this unfortunate war, I pray for them. I'm sure they were all good soldiers who came into harms way - that's the total responsibility of your former administration who initiated an unwinnable war on false terms. The price for this insanity is now being payed by both Allied soldiers and civilians - THAT is the real tragedy!

I do, however, see a degree of point to CreativeMind's explanation that the Google site puts faces on the dead, so that they are not mere statistics. Point taken. None the less, not only American soldiers have died during this crazy war - others have too, both other Allied soldiers and certainly a vast amount of civilians. Why are they not represented? And no, I'm not talking about terrorists and criminals - they asked for it and good riddance.

If this Google site can actually make all us bystanders realize how painful war really is, then I guess it can have some usefulness. Unfortunately, I doubt that there is any such deeper political idea behind it.

Of course, I was fully aware that I would step on some good "patriotic" toes, when I made my posting, but unless we start viewing war in a different perspective, this globe is gonna go. As I also said, war can be a sad necessity - as it was when America had to enter WW2. If they hadn't, Western Europe might likely have fallen to a tyranny that would not only have been very bad news for Europe but also a serious national security issue for America.

But in the end there's no comparison between WW2 and the Iraq-war. Don't make the mistake of ever thinking that...

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