Would you ever suck off a guy?

[someguy2]

No fucking way.

If real girls had cocks, I probs wouldn't even like trannies. Always been disgusted by men, even if they have a nice cock. Some guys also have nice asses, but I'm not fucking a guy in the ass either.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by someguy2

No fucking way.

If real girls had cocks, I probs wouldn't even like trannies. Always been disgusted by men, even if they have a nice cock. Some guys also have nice asses, but I'm not fucking a guy in the ass either.

"real girls" *bangs head on desk*

Well this "fake girl" read your past posts, and I wonder if you wouldn't be more comfortable posting on some Fem Domme site since your only attraction to Tgs is our ability to plow your hetero-boy ass better than those pseky GGs with strap-ons. Perhaps you could join a site like that and give those "real girls" some pointers and leave gals like us alone.

[tslust]

Originally Posted by Bionca

"real girls" *bangs head on desk*

Well this "fake girl" read your past posts, and I wonder if you wouldn't be more comfortable posting on some Fem Domme site since your only attraction to Tgs is our ability to plow your hetero-boy ass better than those pseky GGs with strap-ons. Perhaps you could join a site like that and give those "real girls" some pointers and leave gals like us alone.

I love the way you said that, girl.

[BlueRaven88]

Originally Posted by Bionca

"real girls" *bangs head on desk*

Well this "fake girl" read your past posts, and I wonder if you wouldn't be more comfortable posting on some Fem Domme site since your only attraction to Tgs is our ability to plow your hetero-boy ass better than those pseky GGs with strap-ons. Perhaps you could join a site like that and give those "real girls" some pointers and leave gals like us alone.

lol i love your response bionca

to the OP here is my answer.

all my life i've never been attracted to men at all, and still am not. But lately i've been looking into the BDSM side of sex, and think that i would like to (but doubt that i ever will) have a mistress (GG or Transsexual doesn't really make much difference to me). i'm not sure why, but the thought of a mistress feminizing me (dressing me in female's clothing etc) and making me suck and get fucked by guys excites me, which is kind of weird. though i wouldn't enjoy being made to do it all the time i think it would be kind of fun to try. but as i said this is just a fantasy of mine.

so in short, no i wouldn't go out to find a guy to suck and/or fuck, but if i had a mistress who tied me up/made me do it then yea i probably would

[someguy2]

Originally Posted by Bionca

"real girls" *bangs head on desk*

Well this "fake girl" read your past posts, and I wonder if you wouldn't be more comfortable posting on some Fem Domme site since your only attraction to Tgs is our ability to plow your hetero-boy ass better than those pseky GGs with strap-ons. Perhaps you could join a site like that and give those "real girls" some pointers and leave gals like us alone.

Hey, I'm sorry you're offended, but I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me.

After discovering I like trannies, I've become really bored of real girls wearing strap ons. I just wish real girls had cocks, and would fuck as good as trannies do. From my personal tastes, the only thing trannies offer over real girls is the cock, I could never date one or be intimate with one.

I'm sorry you're offended, but this is how I feel. I can't change that. I hope you're happy with yourself, and find a good guy who truly loves a tranny. I'm just not one of them.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by someguy2

Hey, I'm sorry you're offended, but I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me.

After discovering I like trannies, I've become really bored of real girls wearing strap ons. I just wish real girls had cocks, and would fuck as good as trannies do. From my personal tastes, the only thing trannies offer over real girls is the cock, I could never date one or be intimate with one.

I'm sorry you're offended, but this is how I feel. I can't change that. I hope you're happy with yourself, and find a good guy who truly loves a tranny. I'm just not one of them.

I am hardly offended, pleased actually that you are honest enough with yourself that you are comfortable admitting that you are the exact sort of social coward we have to deal with when dating.

I hope you will be honest like that if you do find some deceptive, fake, false, imitation "not real girl" to act as your living dildo. But I kinda doubt it, since an amazing number of guys who are after a kinky "experience" are not known for anything close to honesty in their pursuits. After all it's not like you are lying to a "real" girl, and fake chicks aren't entitled to anything more than deceptive guys.

Why wouldn't I be happy with myself. I walked through a personal hell, sacrificed my family and a great guy who had to die so I could live. I meet challenges you can never dream of and have a personal strength you will never begin to understand. I am what makes men quiver with desire, tremble in extacy, and cry out with joy. I can bend a man to my will without even trying. I am after all a woman who knows what men really deep down need, crave, desire. I am a woman by choice and determination - blood sweat and tears. What could a man-child like you honestly offer a woman like me... seriously??

[fatbloke]

I think,like most guys on this site i would imagine,would not consider pleasuring another man in that way,but when we look at a transexual would make love to her and pleasure her anyway we could.
I for one,want very much to have a committed relationship.Maybe the only reason for this is because a trasexual really knows what a man wants,not just sexually,but in every aspect of our lives,more or less.
I have had a fair few relationships with women and can honestly say that i have never been happy or satisfied,maybe that is true for a lot of guys here,i don't know,but it seems to me to be a logical step,maybe that is what it is all about,two people coming together and finding peace and contentment in their relationship.

[GeForce]

Originally Posted by Bionca

... Why wouldn't I be happy with myself. I walked through a personal hell, sacrificed my family and a great guy who had to die so I could live. I meet challenges you can never dream of and have a personal strength you will never begin to understand. I am what makes men quiver with desire, tremble in extacy, and cry out with joy. I can bend a man to my will without even trying. I am after all a woman who knows what men really deep down need, crave, desire. I am a woman by choice and determination - blood sweat and tears. ...

Wow! BRAVO Bionca! Props go out to you! That is an AMAZING statement. I feel humbled now, but ... Is it ok if while I was reading this, that I was turned on?

[BlueRaven88]

Originally Posted by someguy2

Hey, I'm sorry you're offended, but I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me.

After discovering I like trannies, I've become really bored of real girls wearing strap ons. I just wish real girls had cocks, and would fuck as good as trannies do. From my personal tastes, the only thing trannies offer over real girls is the cock, I could never date one or be intimate with one.

I'm sorry you're offended, but this is how I feel. I can't change that. I hope you're happy with yourself, and find a good guy who truly loves a tranny. I'm just not one of them.

someguy, by you're logic as long as a transsexual was feminine, the only thing "real girls" as you call them offer over M2F's is the ability to bear children. You obviously prefer TS women by what you said. "I just wish real girls had cocks, and would fuck as good as trannies do." meaning obviously you prefer sex with transsexuals than with Genetic Girls, or GG's as we call them. Personally, I just think you're homophobic and worry too much about what your friends and family think of you, and you are only lying to yourself by saying that you aren't. Open up, explore your sexuality and be comfortable and proud of who you are. If I wasn't living at home and could find a hangout for TS's where I am, I would find and date one and damn whoever wants to say otherwise.

my 2 cents anyway

[someguy2]

Real girls offer a lot more to me than just giving birth. I connect to real girls emotionally, and they have pussy as well, which I also like, but not as much as cocks.

Also, when it comes to a real girl that I like, I pretty much want to do everything I can with her. When it comes to a tranny, there are loads of things I could never do with them sexually. Rimming, giving anal sex, kissing. The thought of doing that with a tranny just weirds me out.

I'm not a politically correct person. I don't consider them real girls, because they are not. They can be very good imitations, but that's about as far as it can go as far as I'm concerned.

I mean, don't get me wrong, trannies are pretty cool. But the benefits of a real girl far out weight a tranny for my personal preferences. Don't get me started on trannies who can't get hard either. I mean, that right there pretty much kills off any sexual interest I have in them completely.

My intention here is not to offend any one, but to be honest about what I like, and what I don't like. I don't like being attacked over it.

Bionca, apart from saying I hope you find a guy who will love you, I have nothing else to say to you.

Maybe I should just leave the forum, and enjoy the trannies by myself so I don't offend any one.

[GRH]

Someguy2,

I would implore you to stick around. And I ask that as a TG person who is currently married, generally consider myself lesbian...Ocassionaly bi, because there ARE some hot men out there! Point being, I'm not exactly the "model" transgendered person...So it goes!

I will stab my own self-esteem in the stomach with this comment...But you're absolutely right! Just because TS-type people fashion themselves a different sex does not magically make them so! They can go through many attempts at becoming something they are not, but they are still grasping at straws. And I'm as guilty as anyone of this. But I'm a HUGE fan of biology, and the fact is EVERYONE is born with one set of chromosomes. Until science has a "magical" process to reverse the chromosomes that we're born with, you are what you're born...Either an XX or an XY. And whether you've got a dick to testify or not is ultimately a moot point...

Now talking things like "sex" versus "gender" is a more complicated topic as far as these discussions go!

[GRH]

And back to the topic at hand...

Sucking off guys...It's nothing I'm opposed to. But blowing a man is sort of weird for me. The one (and only!) threesome I ever had just reeked of weirdness! The guy was such a sweetheart, and one that I fantasized about over the years. I still think he's a sweetheart. But the ACTUAL act of it was a bit different! Subtle things that you'd NEVER expect surface. Things like smell, body hair, etc. And yes, there was sexual momentum on the surface. But 24 hrs later...Well, we both mutually agreed that it was a sort of weird scene! Considering things like this...I'm not opposed to blowing guys in the future. But I'm definitely more of a "pussy-licker" in the short, and I just LOVE vagina more than cock.

[CreativeMind]

Hey there, Someguy2 --

You said: "I'm not a politically correct person... My intention here is not to offend any one, but to be honest about what I like and what I don't like. I don't like being attacked over it." Well, first of all, I don't think anyone here is trying to attack you per se -- it's just that for someone expressing a real interest in transgenders, you're kind of confusing us with some of your statements (but I'll get to that in a second). You also said "Maybe I should just leave the forum, and enjoy the trannies by myself so I don't offend any one". Well, I agree with GRH and would suggest you consider sticking around. I think you'd have fun and enjoy things MORE by hanging out on the boards and talking with people and sharing your viewpoints. Trust me, there's always wide-ranging opinions around this place! But overall, the people here are incredibly nice and genuinely interested in trading opinions, so I think you should stay.

Now, speaking for myself -- and I don't mean any of this to sound like I'm attacking you -- I'm just a little confused by some of the things you said. For example, in your first post you said: "Always been disgusted by men, even if they have a nice cock"...but THEN you turned right around and said two posts later: "I connect to real girls emotionally and they have pussy as well (which I also like), but not as much as cocks."

So, you're disgusted by men, yet you like cocks more than pussy?
Well, that sort of strikes me as two conflicting statements.

Also, in your first post, you said: "If real girls had cocks, I probs wouldn't even like trannies" (okay, so we're back to you liking cocks)...THEN you said in your second post: "I just wish real girls had cocks and would fuck as good as trannies do. From my personal tastes, the only thing trannies offer over real girls is the cock" (okay, so you still really, really like cocks)...but THEN, after all of that build-up, you finally concluded in your third post: "Don't get me wrong, trannies are pretty cool. But the benefits of a real girl far out weigh a tranny for my personal preferences."

So, you seem to be saying trannies are good (after all, you love that cock)...but they're only SO good. They're only good up to a CERTAIN point. In other words, they're good as sexual objects...but that's where it ends. That's the line in the sand for you.

For example, you said: "When it comes to a real girl that I like, I pretty much want to do everything I can with her. When it comes to a tranny, there are loads of things I could never do with them sexually. Rimming, giving anal sex, kissing. The thought of doing that with a tranny just weirds me out"...yet THEN you said "Don't get me started on trannies who can't get hard either. I mean, that right there pretty much kills off any sexual interest I have in them completely."

So, again, I'm sort of left scratching my head. Because it's like you're blowing up a balloon...blowing it up more and more...but JUST as the balloon gets inflated, you suddenly pull out a pin and pop it and say "Well, that's enough of THAT." In other words, you'll say "I like cocks more than pussy...cocks get me hot...therefore trannies are cool...and trannies with hard cocks definitely get me hot...but wait, they're not as cool as girls. But I sure do wish girls had cocks and could fuck like trannies." At which point POP! There goes the balloon.

All in all, I think I get where you're coming from. Like many TS fans, I take it you like highly feminine looking transgenders -- the classic ultra passable photo model who can strip and pose hard -- but that's it. You like looking at them...they turn you on...you might even jerk off to them at home...but you couldn't imagine actually being around a REAL transgendered person, because if she ever gave you a simple kiss on the cheek that would "weird you out."

Well, right off the bat, that whole "I couldn't even kiss a trannie" line puts you a bit at odds with many of the guys here. After all, go visit the DATING section and you'll find loads of guys who bemoan that they can't even meet a real transgender where they live, let alone have a chance at taking one out on a date. Not to mention there's a whole other slew of other guys here who not only would love to kiss a TS, but they dream of saving up enough money so they can take a trip to Thailand, all in the hope of picking up Amy (or some other TS star) and living out their sexual dream.

So, in that respect, given why most guys are attracted to TS porn, I have to say I do find it a bit curious that you openly say you like cock more than pussy...that a hard TS gets you hot and going sexually...yet the thought of even kissing a TS completely weirds you out. So again -- as I said at the top of this post -- I'm definitely NOT trying to pick on you. I'm just curious by the contradiction that seems to exist there.

ANYWAY... I think all of that leads to what Bionca wrote. I think she simply took large offense to your statement: "I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me." You later rammed this point home by adding: "I don't consider them real girls, because they are not. They can be very good imitations, but that's about as far as it can go as far as I'm concerned."

Well, here's the bottom line: in the TS community, that's the equivalent of slapping them hard across the face with the ultimate level of disrespect since they DO consider themselves to be female and they WANT that side of themselves to be recognized and accepted by the world at large. So saying she's not a "real girl" and taking it further and calling her "an imitation" (at best) and THEN taking it the distance by saying "Hey, so long as you LOOK like a girl, that'll do" -- as if merely slapping on some lipstick and stockings is all that it takes for Bionca to define herself -- sort of demeans her feelings, if not her entire sense of self-being or self-worth. Saying it only matters that she LOOKS the part completely discredits what someone like Bionca actually FEELS about herself and her own identity.

So, if you're only looking to get off on the porn side of things, that's cool. If there's something about looking at professionally shot pictures of a very sexy, ultra passable, rock hard TS posing nude that makes you want to unzip your pants and jerk off in private, that's fine. I have no problem with that. There's more than enough guys around this place who feel exactly the same. Hell, let's be frank -- there's OBVIOUSLY more than enough guys who secretly feel that way, which is why TS porn has exploded in recent years.

On the other hand, I'd just give you a friendly bit of advice -- but I'm sure you're already aware of this deep down inside. Just try to remember that much like Jenna Jameson or a porn star is not indicative of the average woman you're going to meet in your daily life, the same is true for TS porn. Is it hot fun to jerk off to Areeya or Amy? Sure. But the transgendered community is about REAL flesh and blood people with REAL feelings, and they have more than enough problems as it is fighting for recognition and equality and justice and all sorts of things -- even simple acceptance by the world at large -- and that's why a blunt "in your face" comment like telling them they're not "real women" or calling them "imitations" or saying "so long as you look good, that's ALL that matters" isn't going to make them very happy. Whether you want to accept or believe this, they are women and they certainly consider themselves to be, so they're just looking for a bit of respect.

Which frankly, I don't think should be very hard for any of us to give them as fellow human beings.
But that's just my two cents...

yeh i would but only if he was realy muscular something about big abbs really turns me on

[someguy2]

Originally Posted by CreativeMind

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I really tried to read all of that, but it's too long. You've overly analyzing everything I say. I'm just gonna make some small statements. You can debate them if you want, but they are just what I feel.

- I like cock, more than pussy. It's not contradictory when you think about it. I like female ass, but not a guy's ass. I just find pussy a bit boring, but it's still nice from time to time. When I watch tranny porn, I see them as women, even though I know logically they are not.

- When trannies have everything real women do like a vagina, boobs, be able to give birth etc etc, then I will consider them real girls. Until then, they can only be good imitations at best. I'm sorry if some trannies can't handle that, but I am a man of science, and when I compare trannies to real girls, I don't get a match.

I don't know what else to say here, I've stated my positions on things already.