Barack Obama

[randolph]

The bottom line is this: in every single poll out there, the OVERWHELMING majority of Americans are worried more than ever before. Creativemind

Well duh! we are descending into a depression! Can Obama's program save us, I sure hope so. The consequences of failure are dire indeed. As Naomi Kline points out in her new book, the capitalists will further erode our democracy and we will end up with plutocracy with no say in government, no civil rights and no freedom of speech. I am afraid the Reflublicans in their delight in wishing Obama's failure are inviting what they fear most, the loss of our democracy.

[randolph]

by David Glenn Cox
Excerpt from "Let the Sky Fall"

Let us wipe the stars from our eyes. These Republicans are not going to cooperate, not now, not ever. They will use every tool at their disposal to subvert, obstruct, divert, and defame because, in the words of their hero, they want to see Obama fail. If you or a few million other Americans suffer, well, they just don't care. Why should they? They never cared before; they're the party of self, self-righteous and self-aggrandizing. They accept their wealth as a God-given prerogative to rule over the unwashed multitudes. Even now they preach if we don't do anything the economy will fix itself in a year or two. We just have to take our medicine, but what they mean is you have to take their medicine and that's just too bad for you.

They have proven by their behavior that they are not a party of democratic principles but a party of semi-compassionate fascism. They will cede no ground because of an election, or a wave of public sentiment. They will do whatever they deem necessary to bring down this administration, even let the sky fall.

So, let the sky fall, let the sun crash and commence with the days of iron rain. Let the blood of the guilty and the tears of the innocent mix and intermingle in the sewers of greed. They seek the truth through gold, eternal life through eternal wealth, and the gospel of freedom through the cleansing of the iron rain. They see men as tools and tools as men; Heaven and Hell being all in one place, at their discretion alone. The war has begun, the blood will flow into the crop circles of the damned, and in the puddles of the iron rain.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

The bottom line is this: in every single poll out there, the OVERWHELMING majority of Americans are worried more than ever before. Creativemind

Well duh! we are descending into a depression!

Source?

What makes you think we're descending into a depression? The liberal news media? Obama's rhetoric? Despite their criticisms of the Republicans using scare tactics to stir up support for the war, the democrats (and their press secretaries... I mean the media) are using scare tactics to convince people that this is the end of times, and therefore drastic measures need to be taken, like putting us much further into debt.

We're at 7.5% unemployment now, which sucks, but it's nowhere near the 25% during the great depression. What numbers are you looking at?

Originally Posted by randolph

Can Obama's program save us, I sure hope so. The consequences of failure are dire indeed.

Better go buy 1000 cans of pork & beans, get a shotgun, and hide in a bomb shelter with all your cash.

Originally Posted by randolph

Even now they preach if we don't do anything the economy will fix itself in a year or two.

Who says it'll fix itself in a year or two? Probably more like 5-10 years. But at least after that we won't have a larger debt or expensive social programs to deal with. I think it's better if we cut spending. Isn't that what you'd do if you were over spending and had lots of debt? The govt should also free up cash flow for businesses. Those businesses ARE the economy. Not the government.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Source?

The govt should also free up cash flow for businesses. Those businesses ARE the economy. Not the government.

Agreed, I thought that's what Obama is trying to do, provide cash to get businesses going again.

Oh, by the way, I LIKE your new avatar!

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Agreed, I thought that's what Obama is trying to do, provide cash to get businesses going again.

Only 3% of the stimulus package is for general businesses. Although if you're in the business of "green energy", you'll do better.

Originally Posted by randolph

Oh, by the way, I LIKE your new avatar!

Thanks

[TracyCoxx]

More news on BO... Now he wants to move control of the US Census from the Commerce department to the friken Whitehouse. For those who don't know, the Census is used to determine how voting districts are defined, which has a huge effect on the outcomes of elections. Something like this should not be in the hands of any one party. It's nothing but a blatant power grab.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

More news on BO... Now he wants to move control of the US Census from the Commerce department to the friken Whitehouse. For those who don't know, the Census is used to determine how voting districts are defined, which has a huge effect on the outcomes of elections. Something like this should not be in the hands of any one party. It's nothing but a blatant power grab.

The voting districts are determined by local state legislators or in the case of Californa by a new special nonpartisan committee. In most cases, voting districts have been manipulated for many years to strengthen the incumbents chances of reelection. It's called gerrymandering.

[franalexes]

BUT, It doesn't belong in the Whitehouse!

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by randolph

Agreed, I thought that's what Obama is trying to do, provide cash to get businesses going again.

Oh, by the way, I LIKE your new avatar!

Yes, Tracy's avatar is, indeed, cute... unfortunately her political views are not...

Obama is trying his best to clean up the Republican mess after eight years of insanely incompetent, corrupt and war-mongering policies. And obviously the Reps sit back and smile and think "how can YOU clean it up...?"

It may take a little while, but we're on the way, not least because President Obama acknowledges the fact that we're in this together. Geo and Dick only thought of their own wealth, not their country's (and certainly not the world's). They were the most dangerous administration that your country has ever had.

But the scorned Reps and hard core conservatives will for ever plead their lost case... keep in mind that their intellectual base is Hannity, Lambaugh, Wolfowitch and their kind... so what can we do? Not exactly rational ppl with a wish to move forward... but I guess that's what conservatism is all about... let's NOT move any where if not backwards.

F****** fascists!

H