Liberal free for all coming to an end

[KittyKaiti]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Absolutely. Seems to me that's as good a reason to shun the Democrats as well.

Since Obama has been in office he has managed to tear down DADT and pass federal hate crimes protections for transgender. Why would you shun that? My state is run by Dems and we just passed gay marriage and laws like GENDA are in the works (which protect transgender from discrimination). Our Democratic friends have also repeatedly attempted to introduce and pass ENDA, which would protect LGB & Transgender from employment discrimination under federal law.

But every time, Republicans have fought to strike them down and religious organizations and corrupt conservative/right wing lobbyists have done everything in their power to not only kill such bills in the Congress and Senate but also openly bash transgender people and spread propaganda lies about us, ie: all those Republican right wing "Family" organizations.

I have great respect for Democrats, while I am not registered to any specific party, I voted for Obama and he was a good choice for me and the community.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti

Since Obama has been in office he has managed to tear down DADT and pass federal hate crimes protections for transgender. Why would you shun that? My state is run by Dems and we just passed gay marriage and laws like GENDA are in the works (which protect transgender from discrimination). Our Democratic friends have also repeatedly attempted to introduce and pass ENDA, which would protect LGB & Transgender from employment discrimination under federal law.

But every time, Republicans have fought to strike them down and religious organizations and corrupt conservative/right wing lobbyists have done everything in their power to not only kill such bills in the Congress and Senate but also openly bash transgender people and spread propaganda lies about us, ie: all those Republican right wing "Family" organizations.

I have great respect for Democrats, while I am not registered to any specific party, I voted for Obama and he was a good choice for me and the community.

I thought the administration took down DADT grudingly. Am I wrong about this? I'd certainly like to be wrong about it. And Obama doesn't seem to want to pass a bill for marriage equality. But if you are correct Kitti then I gladly rescind my previous post.

[KittyKaiti]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I thought the administration took down DADT grudingly. Am I wrong about this? I'd certainly like to be wrong about it. And Obama doesn't seem to want to pass a bill for marriage equality. But if you are correct Kitti then I gladly rescind my previous post.

No, the military and Pentagon are dismantling DADT grudgingly in accordance with the law signed by Obama and through Supreme Court order. They are dragging their feet like whiny assholes and even after the bill passed they kept discharging gays but the Supreme Court recently ordered a freeze on discharges. I hate Repubs. They won't even obey the law.

Also in regards to federal recognition of gay marriage, the Obama administration declared DOMA unconstitutional.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti

No, the military and Pentagon are dismantling DADT grudgingly in accordance with the law signed by Obama and through Supreme Court order. They are dragging their feet like whiny assholes and even after the bill passed they kept discharging gays but the Supreme Court recently ordered a freeze on discharges. I hate Repubs. They won't even follow the law.

But you forget Kitty: Obama is rescinding DADT because he's weak on defense. He sympathizes with terrorists. Hell he is one. Hussein? Don't tell me that's not a terrorist name. What we need to win this--neverending--war is strong virile heterosexual men. No one shoots like a man pumped up with testosterone and lusting after his wife or girlfriend back home. And heterosexuality also endows you with God's own light, thus protecting you from bullets. Destroy the sanctity of marriage and that of the Army by giving them to the homosexual communists--50s or 40s reference I am not fucking kidding--and you deliver us unto the terrorists.

[KittyKaiti]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

But you forget Kitty: Obama is rescinding DADT because he's weak on defense. He sympathizes with terrorists. Hell he is one. Hussein? Don't tell me that's not a terrorist name. What we need to win this--neverending--war is strong virile heterosexual men. No one shoots like a man pumped up with testosterone and lusting after his wife or girlfriend back home. And heterosexuality also endows you with God's own light, thus protecting you from bullets. Destroy the sanctity of marriage and that of the Army by giving them to the homosexual communists--50s or 40s reference I am not fucking kidding--and you deliver us unto the terrorists.

Please tell me that entire statement is a troll joke.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti

Please tell me that entire statement is a troll joke.

A joke yes. Though not a troll joke. But now you've made me explain which makes me

I think my best defense lies with the posts I've made in this forum before. Most of which can be found on this very thread.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti

No, the military and Pentagon are dismantling DADT grudgingly in accordance with the law signed by Obama and through Supreme Court order. They are dragging their feet like whiny assholes and even after the bill passed they kept discharging gays but the Supreme Court recently ordered a freeze on discharges. I hate Repubs. They won't even obey the law.

The Supreme Court ordered a freeze on them? I'm quite surprised.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti

Since Obama has been in office he has managed to tear down DADT

Say whu??

Obama's legislative cowpat of a repeal for dadt is such a worthless sponge it allows the military to drag thier feet for as long as possible, in the meantime continuing to discharge gay personnel. The discharge of gay soldiers was actually stopped by the Log Cabin Republican's court action. Obama then promptly cried about how it should be changed through legislation, not a court ruling.

Just goes to show what a worthless sack of dough Obama is that he gets beaten to the punch by a Republican group on one of his own campaign promises.

Yes, Democrats may be better than the Republicans but only in the same way as a 1 legged dog is better than a no legged dog.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

Say whu??

Obama's legislative cowpat of a repeal for dadt is such a worthless sponge it allows the military to drag thier feet for as long as possible, in the meantime continuing to discharge gay personnel. The discharge of gay soldiers was actually stopped by the Log Cabin Republican's court action. Obama then promptly cried about how it should be changed through legislation, not a court ruling.

Just goes to show what a worthless sack of dough Obama is that he gets beaten to the punch by a Republican group on one of his own campaign promises.

Yes, Democrats may be better than the Republicans but only in the same way as a 1 legged dog is better than a no legged dog.

I think I agree with Anna now. That part about the dog, that part...that part is funny.

[KittyKaiti]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

Say whu??

Obama's legislative cowpat of a repeal for dadt is such a worthless sponge it allows the military to drag thier feet for as long as possible, in the meantime continuing to discharge gay personnel. The discharge of gay soldiers was actually stopped by the Log Cabin Republican's court action. Obama then promptly cried about how it should be changed through legislation, not a court ruling.

Just goes to show what a worthless sack of dough Obama is that he gets beaten to the punch by a Republican group on one of his own campaign promises.

Yes, Democrats may be better than the Republicans but only in the same way as a 1 legged dog is better than a no legged dog.

I can't find anything about Obama "crying about the court ruling". And the Log Cabin Repubs are homosexuals... they must have their party affiliations confused.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti

I can't find anything about Obama "crying about the court ruling". And the Log Cabin Repubs are homosexuals... they must have their party affiliations confused.

Must resist lowbrow lazy joke about the Log Cabin Republicans----

[randolph]

"Liberal free for all coming to an end" ?
More than that will be coming to an end if the Repubs have there way. A default could well be the end of the American dream. Playing Russian roulette with the economy is the height of irresponsibility. The Congress is responsible for the government expenses. They can cut expenses and raise or lower taxes, it's up to them. They don't have to listen to lobbyists or anybody else other than the voters. Obama can't raise the debt ceiling, it's up to Congress to do what is right for the country.
Expenses are out of control primarily because of Reaganomics. The absurd belief that you can increase revenue by cutting taxes. It didn't work during Reagon's presidency or during the Bush administration, yet Repubs in congress like to spend money as much as the Democrats. The difference is the Democrats realize you have to raise taxes if you want to spend more money.
Right now we need a strong leader who can rally the public to force this fucked up Congress to shape up and represent the people.

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by randolph

"Liberal free for all coming to an end" ?
Right now we need a strong leader who can rally the public to force this fucked up Congress to shape up and represent the people.

I guess I'm not one of "the people". ( Oh yes, I've been labled thank you. I'm a transsexual.)