Does not being sexually attracted to post-op transsexual women, make you a homosexual man?

[JodieTs]

And most of us pre-op transsexual women aim to have SRS, at some point.

My friend had SRS in Thailand three months ago.
Dr. Sanguan, click here
Appearance wise her pussy is totally indistinguishable from a bio-female's pussy.
What's more, what with bio-female partners, and sex fuck buddies,
I've seen a lot of pussy.
Hers is totally stunning, like one of the most beautiful,
I've ever seen in my life.
My comment is repeated by both other ts women who she has share this with
{Flashing-the-gash, to other Ts's, just after SRS...is a 'Ts thing' }
along with her local doctor {bio-female} who was curious.

I've pointed out these two threads for her to look at
but she doesn't do porn so don't hold your breath for a photo.

[sweettsuk]

BLUSH Thank you sweetness HUGSXX and your are right, I won't be posting any photos

[smc]

Thank you, Jodie, for another wonderfully provocative and necessary discussion.

My sexual attractions are so wide-reaching, and I refuse to accept labels.

I love the person, not the genitalia.

The most lovable person is the happiest person. Happiness is often found (at least partially) in being in the right body. I think that says it all.

[kenstar]

this is the problem with this kind of attraction/lifestyle/fetish/what have you,

t-girls eventually want to become just girls , and we for completely selfish reasons want them to stay t-girls.

I will say that ms. Foxxx Is hot cock or no cock, but I understand and it seems that she understands that her classification jump to post op is tough for her fan base.

Ide romantically plow her in the most pornographic way with or without her cock, but I was surprised when I heard of her change to womanly status.

all this begs the question, are there any t-girls who are happy and want to stay as t-girls?

just to be clear im happy for her.

[sweettsuk]

What you have to understand is that 98% of Asian tgirls are only doing the shemale porn/escorting For the money

Most will go back to being male and their family once their looks go and the money dries up

This is also the case with many shemale porn/escorts, it's about money

Then you have the ts's who only do the porn/escorting to pay for the surgery's to become (as far as possible) Just woman

That leaves the percent that are most likely Tv's or Tv plus's ( had some surgery) not really Ts so happy to keep their cock

Obviously not everyone feels the same way. I joined this forum to learn more about myself after I first discovered my interest in transwomen was more than simply curiosity. As I suspected, it was the individual that I was attracted to. Since then my understanding of many of the issues involved has increased as has my desire for a trans partner. However, my desire for ciswomen has not decreased. So my basic criteria are the same as before: a “connection” of some kind when we meet, shared interests, intelligence, personality, beautiful eyes, great body, long legs, nice ass… Nowhere on that list is there any mention of sex organs. Similarly the list does not preclude meeting a gay man with those same characteristics.

[smc]

Originally Posted by kenstar

this is the problem with this kind of attraction/lifestyle/fetish/what have you,

t-girls eventually want to become just girls , and we for completely selfish reasons want them to stay t-girls.

I will say that ms. Foxxx Is hot cock or no cock, but I understand and it seems that she understands that her classification jump to post op is tough for her fan base.

Ide romantically plow her in the most pornographic way with or without her cock, but I was surprised when I heard of her change to womanly status.

all this begs the question, are there any t-girls who are happy and want to stay as t-girls?

just to be clear im happy for her.

Regarding the part of your post that I have made bold above, I just want to say that your use of "we" is problematic. I do not share this view, for instance. I find it a cause for celebration when anyone gets closer to her or his true self, and if for a given person that getting rid of a cock, then any "selfishness" I might feel because I love cocks has to be negated in the interest of something greater and more important.

[kenstar]

Originally Posted by smc

Regarding the part of your post that I have made bold above, I just want to say that your use of "we" is problematic. I do not share this view, for instance. I find it a cause for celebration when anyone gets closer to her or his true self, and if for a given person that getting rid of a cock, then any "selfishness" I might feel because I love cocks has to be negated in the interest of something greater and more important.

At least for me its selfish, I want them all to keep their penises because I like them better that way. sorry about the we, I guess it's more "the royal we".

so complicated.

Still, good for her.


"Im KenStar and I approve this message."

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by kenstar

all this begs the question, are there any t-girls who are happy and want to stay as t-girls?

Good question.
Well, it is a varied answer.
Up to quite recently, I really only wanted an orchy
as I loath my testicles but the penis didn't bother me
and was out of sight tucked, when dressed.
But over the last year
me thoughts have changed
to just wanting to 'fix things'

I'm not there yet.
I had a drive to do some other surgery,
which took 18 months from first serious consideration
through research and consultations
to have the surgery.
From the start, I had an intense drive to do it
and when I get the same drive{as I know I will} to have SRS
then I will.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

And most of us pre-op transsexual women aim to have SRS, at some point.

My friend had SRS in Thailand three months ago.
Dr. Sanguan, click here
Appearance wise her pussy is totally indistinguishable from a bio-female's pussy.
What's more, what with bio-female partners, and sex fuck buddies,
I've seen a lot of pussy.
Hers is totally stunning, like one of the most beautiful,
I've ever seen in my life.
My comment is repeated by both other ts women who she has share this with
{Flashing-the-gash, to other Ts's, just after SRS...is a 'Ts thing' }
along with her local doctor {bio-female} who was curious.

I've pointed out these two threads for her to look at
but she doesn't do porn so don't hold your breath for a photo.

Since we are on the subject of SRS, what happens to the prostate gland?

The idea that we are all somehow attracted to “the cock” is interesting and the way it is often asked on this forum typically implies a kind of closeted “gayness” that some of us aren’t admitting to. But I think the “gay or straight” question, and the suggestion that all transsexual admirers are really “gay” is too narrow--human sexuality is far more complex than that. It also implies that a “pre-op” transwoman--complete with her penis, is somehow less than 100% female. I consider that implication an insult to my friends and potential partners.

When I first became aware of my feelings I asked myself if I was somehow “turning gay.” I had been married for about 10 years at the time and I never had been attracted to another man. If you read my profile and other posts you’ll see I played football all through college. Been around guys my whole life--never had sex with one or been attracted to what could be called “male characteristics.” Over the last two years or so I have done a lot of reflection on whether or not there had ever been any guy I could say I had been attracted to. I actually did think of a friend from my dorm that was somewhat “feminine” in his behavior (he was from California--not “feminine” of itself but unusual at a mid-west school like Purdue, had very long blond hair, blue eyes, shaved his body and legs, wore shorts and tight t-shirts a lot, fan of the RHPS, very smart too--God I’m getting hot thinking about him… ). What I remember is that most everyone in the dorm thought he was gay. I was probably his best friend and actually saved him from being thrown in the Wabash River by a few guys in our dorm that had it in for him. When you are a 6’4” defensive lineman that can bench over 500 for reps you can stop people from doing shit like that. Nuff said…

Anyway, I have always been accepting of gays and lesbians and naturally wondered that about myself. I currently have many friends who are gay and going back to when I was in high-school I had friends who were bodybuilders who were gay. But no, I’ve never had “those” kind of feelings for another man. Not that I would think it was bad or wrong--as I’ve said, if the right *person* came along... In less than a month, I will be getting married again but will still remain active on here--probably not posting so many pics of Rakel and Kelly and Kimber though. My “bride to be” knows of my activities here and in the LGBT community and supports it totally.

I would suggest that those who still maintain the narrow (and I believe incorrect) view that we are all really “gay” get to know someone who really is trans or maybe read about some of the models and actresses we all worship on this site. An interview from years ago with Kelly Shore is one of the things that really helped me to put it all together and accept myself for who I am. The thoughtful posts of people like ila, Fran, smc, Bionca, Jodie, Hank H., and many others helped too. I think it’s entirely natural to wonder about these things--I hope we can continue to talk about them here and support each other.

[smc]

Originally Posted by aw9725

... I actually did think of a friend from my dorm that was somewhat ?feminine? in his behavior (he was from California--not ?feminine? of itself but unusual at a mid-west school like Purdue, had very long blond hair, blue eyes, shaved his body and legs, wore shorts and tight t-shirts a lot, fan of the RHPS, very smart too--God I?m getting hot thinking about him? ). ...

I don't know what RHPS is, but I'm getting hot, too! And I'm not afraid to admit it. Labels be damned!

Originally Posted by smc

I don't know what RHPS is, but I'm getting hot, too! And I'm not afraid to admit it. Labels be damned!

The Rocky Horror Picture Show! This friend is the one who introduced me to it in fact. He would go as "Dr. Frankenfurter" and sometimes as "Rocky." I eventually was talked into going (a RHPS "virgin"!) and eventually started going as "Brad."

Hard to find showings of it now. The closest thing here was at the Indianapolis Museum of Art over a year ago and it was more like a picnic on the grass. Guess we are getting to old to dress up and throw stuff anymore!

[smc]

Originally Posted by aw9725

The Rocky Horror Picture Show! This friend is the one who introduced me to it in fact. He would go as "Dr. Frankenfurter" and sometimes as "Rocky." I eventually was talked into going (a RHPS "virgin"!) and eventually started going as "Brad."

Hard to find showings of it now. The closest thing here was at the Indianapolis Museum of Art over a year ago and it was more like a picnic on the grass. Guess we are getting to old to dress up and throw stuff anymore!

Well, I guess I do know what it is, then, just not by its initials (perhaps if I'd given it more thought, but my mind was clearly focused on your hot college friend ).

It still shows EVERY night in Cambridge, Massachusetts, at the Harvard Square Cinema, at midnight. I've never gone to one of these showings; I don't find the idea of dressing up as a character in a movie particularly appealing, unless for a Halloween Party, but over the years I have had students -- some of my most serious students (go figure!) -- who have told me of being regulars at the screening.

The outdoor throwing at the art museum sounds, well, simply bizarre. I guess that's keeping with the spirit of the film. After all, "it's just a jump to the left ..."

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by randolph

Since we are on the subject of SRS, what happens to the prostate gland?

Nothing at all.
It stays in place
and is not involved in any aspect of SRS

[9yneGuy]

I'm not going to lie. I love the cock and I love the cum. But with that being said, if a girl gets SRS I'm not going to all of a sudden start to dislike her new body of work. Will I enjoy it as much as I used to? I can't say I would, but I'll still be extremely turned on. I mean come on, Danielle Foxxx's pussy is amazing. I like her pussy more than a lot of GG's pussies.


But for the people in those comments you posted, I wouldn't call them gay. But I would call them assholes. "I prefer a real woman"? Come on, dude.

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by 9yneGuy

But for the people in those comments you posted, I wouldn't call them gay. But I would call them assholes. "I prefer a real woman"? Come on, dude.

Yep, pretty much my thoughts as well, but I thought I'd float this thread to see if anyone bit!