Liberal free for all coming to an end

[transjen]

No i said debit ie like a magic card you insert and money comes pouring out

I think we can both agree something needs to be done about the sea of red ink started by W,

Where we disaggree on is who has to pay for it as you and the GOP feels the poor and working poor and midclass should foot the bill and suffer all the pain and the rich can live as they have and not worry about it
since 01 the rich and bussiness has had all the breaks and this trickle down did not create jobs all it did was create more red ink while the rich got richer
Trickle down is the biggest load of horse crap ever spoon feed to the US public in truth is a reverse Robin Hood that steals from the poor and gives to the rich as the rich pisses on the poors back and tells em it's raining
You want to drain the red ink then raise taxes you want to create jobs start putting a big taxes on all imports and perhaps then companies will start making good in the US
The rich has had 8 years of massive tax cuts and it's time they start paying for there party
I'm waiting for the GOP's next FU tax gimmick where they will claim Bussiness should not pay any yaxs at all and the employees should pay the taxes for em
wait an see it will happen
Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

No i said debit ie like a magic card you insert and money comes pouring out

I think we can both agree something needs to be done about the sea of red ink started by W,

This isn't something we agree on. Bush did not create the debt.

Originally Posted by transjen

Where we disaggree on is who has to pay for it as you and the GOP feels the poor and working poor and midclass should foot the bill and suffer all the pain and the rich can live as they have and not worry about it
since 01 the rich .... snip

I think you were born in '01. You have no concept of any other president other than Bush & BO. That there was debt before Bush comes as news to you. If anyone thinks he's got a magic debit card it's BO. He's printed several trillion dollars since he's come into office. If you can cite a time when Bush contributed more to the debt than your beloved Obama then by all means, tell me. Otherwise this is becoming a bore.

[transjen]

OF course W is innocent after all he started with a balanced budget and for the first time ever the goverment had money left over and your great little runt W who stole the election pissed it all away the first few months he stole power by round one of his tax cuts for the rich and starting the sea of red ink then he started two wars and did a second round of tax cuts for the rich then he bailed out wall street and then he started the US car makers bailout and yet you have the balls to say W didn't create this mess
I don't care how bored you get but the truth is W started the sea of red ink and trickle down economics only adds more red
Bo screwed up by caving in to the GOP and allowing two more years of tax cuts for the rich adding 900 million to the red ink all thanks to the GOP who demanded the rich not pay taxes the same GOP who ran on ending the debt
So tell me agian how the GOP is innocent and none of this is there fault and don't give me any of Rush or Palins made up BS
Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

What Republicans are determined to ignore is that labor creates wealth. The miners digging ore, the assemblers in the auto plant, the machinist making machines, these are the people making wealth. Businessmen (CEOs) take that created wealth and distribute most of it to themselves. Its true enough that managers allocate and manage labor to optimize the creation of wealth but they do not create it, the workers create it. Even on Wallstreet if the guys behind the computers went home, no wealth would be created.
Basically, the Republicans want a slave economy where they get all of the benefit from labor and don't have to pay for it.
This is what they want and they are determined to get it. Hopefully, soon the workers in this country will wake up, but I doubt it.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

OF course W is innocent after all he started with a balanced budget and for the first time ever the goverment had money left over and your great little runt W who stole the election pissed it all away the first few months he stole power by round one of his tax cuts for the rich and starting the sea of red ink...

Etc etc... It's the same old discredited arguments as before.

In other news, Pelosi wants to have a party to celebrate all that congress has accomplished!! LOL! You just can't make this stuff up.

[randolph]

Obama's Huge Would-Be Gift To The Scions Of The Super-Rich

by Dan Froomkin
WASHINGTON -- Millionaires and billionaires would reap big rewards if President Obama's tax cut deal becomes law, but thanks to the agreement's estate-tax provisions it's their heirs who will make a real killing.
The estate tax is a particularly hot-button issue with progressives who see the increase of income inequality and loss of social mobility as being the main underlying problems with modern American society. (Credit: Reuters/Rick Wilking)
The Obama concession that's getting most of the attention in the media is the one that would extend the Bush income tax cuts even for households making over $250,000 a year. That's a gift to your average millionaire of $139,000 a year for the next two years. But it's the estate tax cut which, despite its relatively lower public profile, has proven even harder for congressional Democrats to swallow. Obama's deal would free an estimated 40,000 of the biggest estates in the country each year that would otherwise have been subject to the tax from paying a single penny.
And the approximately 3,500 estates that would remain subject to the tax at all -- consisting of the top 0.14 percent of all U.S. estates each year -- would pay at a much lower rate.
Compared to current law, that would amount to a gift in 2011 averaging about $3.5 million for each of the thousand or so estates worth $20 million or more.
The total cost to the taxpayers would be about $23 billion a year.

So it doesn't matter who is in the Whitehouse, we will be screwed by the rich. Over Over and over

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

So it doesn't matter who is in the Whitehouse, we will be screwed by the rich. Over Over and over

I'm not being screwed by any super rich. Are you?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I'm not being screwed by any super rich. Are you?

No, I am not either, because the rich are obsessed with money rather than sex. Their view of screwing somebody is getting as much of their money as possible. I suspect they have organisms at night playing with their money. $$$