Barack Obama

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

Oh, I'm just such a right wing whack job.
Want to keep going?

TRACY:

I summarized what you wrote as issues, and said I wouldn't debate you on. I didn't call you anything. I said what you wanted to debate on, and they are issues I've heard from Coulter, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin and Palin.

No offense, but what I was saying is I won't waste my time defending Obama on attack issues, like Obama is a terrorist. Sorry.

You are saying debate you on these issues, or I'm insulting you, no?


TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

I summarized what you wrote as issues, and said I wouldn't debate you on. I didn't call you anything. I said what you wanted to debate on, and they are issues I've heard from Coulter, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin and Palin.

No offense, but what I was saying is I won't waste my time defending Obama on attack issues, like Obama is a terrorist. Sorry.

You are saying debate you on these issues, or I'm insulting you, no?

You said above you wouldn't discuss them because you thought it was all from Glenn Beck, the right-wing whack job. Not that you called him or I that, but it's implied. Sorry if I misunderstood you, but I wasn't sure if english was your 1st language and I didn't quite understand your posting where you summarized my issues. If you don't want to debate those issues, fine. But I consider all of them pretty serious, especially when taken together. And as I've shown on the 3rd issue, the source isn't Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, Coulter or Palin. It was Obama. Much of the information I have are direct sources.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

You said above you wouldn't discuss them because you thought it was all from Glenn Beck, the right-wing whack job. Not that you called him or I that, but it's implied. Sorry if I misunderstood you, but I wasn't sure if english was your 1st language and I didn't quite understand your posting where you summarized my issues. If you don't want to debate those issues, fine. But I consider all of them pretty serious, especially when taken together. And as I've shown on the 3rd issue, the source isn't Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, Coulter or Palin. It was Obama. Much of the information I have are direct sources.

TRACY:

Firstly, thank you, for the illiterate insult.

I said they were ATTACK issues!!

Guilt by association, guilt by location.

Association like Bill Ayers equals pals around with terrorists.

Geography like Chicago equals Obama is a crook too.

Example only: McCain hung around with commies for years. How did he get out alive without there being a reason? Just sayin.

These are ATTACK issues, and they are done by political people--like you who despise Obama to begin with without a reason, and hate after you have a reason. The point is to create as many doubts about your political rival as you can.

I know you cannot attack a war hero, or a president (Bush 43) during wartime.

TAL

[randolph]

well said.

These are ATTACK issues, and they are done by political people--like you who despise Obama to begin with without a reason, and hate after you have a reason. The point is to create as many doubts about your political rival as you can.

Its really sad there is so much hate among conservatives. A little reason and compromise could go a long way toward solving many of our problems. If the hate mongers, Rush, et all would just go away so we could live in peace.
Cant we just love each other as fellow humans?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Its really sad there is so much hate among conservatives. A little reason and compromise could go a long way toward solving many of our problems. If the hate mongers, Rush, et all would just go away so we could live in peace.
Cant we just love each other as fellow humans?

I don't know what to say. I realize now how hateful I've been. All I have to do is think back to when Bush was in office to remember how loving and understanding Democrats were about him. I am sorry, please forgive me and the other conservative hate mongers.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I don't know what to say. I realize now how hateful I've been. All I have to do is think back to when Bush was in office to remember how loving and understanding Democrats were about him. I am sorry, please forgive me and the other conservative hate mongers.

TRACY:

BTW, there was no reason for me to post the entire line, as it had no affect on context. Just pointing that out.

RANDY:

Conse 'Pubs feel that going after Obama every day on every thing is payback for Bush 43. The unwashed inferiors had the nerve to UNJUSTLY criticize Bush 43 for torture, wire tapping, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, The Iraq War, bin Laden still at large and 112 other questionable actions. And, yes, Tracy will no doubt justify every action from those 8 years that are mentioned above, while there is no justifying a single move by Obama--not one.

Of course, attacking Clinton required no payback, and honestly do you think Conse 'Pubs need a reason to attack Obama? I don't, how 'bout you, Randy?


TAL

[CCC]

Originally Posted by randolph

well said.



Its really sad there is so much hate among conservatives. A little reason and compromise could go a long way toward solving many of our problems. If the hate mongers, Rush, et all would just go away so we could live in peace.
Cant we just love each other as fellow humans?

You sound like a contestant for Miss America--that won't happen til the Liberal Dems stop messing with the Consitution, the Bill of Rights and my wallet.

[randolph]

Well guys, I am "retiring" from this thread, its becoming "threadbare".
It's more fun writing erotic stories and thinking about lovely tgirls.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Well guys, I am "retiring" from this thread, its becoming "threadbare".
It's more fun writing erotic stories and thinking about lovely tgirls.

Well it's been stimulating debating with you. You were the most objective of them and you knew what you were talking about. Post your stories ok?

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by CCC

You sound like a contestant for Miss America--that won't happen til the Liberal Dems stop messing with the Consitution, the Bill of Rights and my wallet.

RANDY:

They want their country back to the good old days of TAX CUTS!!!


It's all about the full wallet.


TAL

[jimnaseum]

Originally Posted by randolph

Its really sad there is so much hate among conservatives.

Not hate, Randy, FEAR.

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by randolph

Its really sad there is so much hate among conservatives. A little reason and compromise could go a long way toward solving many of our problems. If the hate mongers, Rush, et all would just go away so we could live in peace.

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Not hate, Randy, FEAR.

Yeah, you guys are right.
No one on the Left could ever be accused of spreading hate and fear...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLjAahyKfp0

[CCC]

Originally Posted by CreativeMind

Yeah, you guys are right.
No one on the Left could ever be accused of spreading hate and fear...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLjAahyKfp0

What a jerk---does he think that is going to get him better ratings--I have more people listening to my radio show than him.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by CreativeMind

Yeah, you guys are right.
No one on the Left could ever be accused of spreading hate and fear...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLjAahyKfp0

JIM:

Translation: Unless you're perfect you cannot criticize the right, because they don't criticize--they ONLY disagree. You're not perfect if there is 1 thing to question, which means they can do a million things you think are wrong.

TAL

[ila]

^And apparently one cannot criticize the left without receiving a condescending snarky reply in return.

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

JIM: Translation: Unless you're perfect you cannot criticize the right, because they don't criticize--they ONLY disagree. You're not perfect if there is 1 thing to question, which means they can do a million things you think are wrong.

TAL

Tal, just for the record, all I was saying with my post -- or rather letting Keith Olbermann make my point for me -- is that broad blanket statements like Randolph made ("Its sad there is so much hate among conservatives. If the hate mongers, Rush, et all would just go away so we could live in peace") and that Jim made ("Not hate, Randy, FEAR") really hold no water when statements of EQUAL anger and fear mongoring are made on the Left TOO.

Look, do I think Rush often goes over the top? Absolutely.
Do I think a Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck can go over the top? I do.
There -- I'll admit it and put it on the record.

But at the same time that you are trying to get that concession out of me, you can't honestly expect me (or others) to just look the other way and ignore the bitterness coming from the Left as well. Otherwise we'd have the equivalent of you and me squaring off in a boxing ring, at which point you say, "I'd like us to have a fair match." And then as soon as I say "sure" and start to turn, to go to my corner, you quickly blurt out "But I'm allowed to get in a sucker punch first!" KA-POW!

I mean, come on -- fair is fair. If you or anyone else on the Left wants me (or others) to denounce over-the-top ravings of a Rush Limbaugh or whoever, then the Left has to likewise admit to (as I showed with my clip) that the frothing at the mouth ravings of people like Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow, etc, are EQUALLY nutty.

In fact, since we're on the topic of simply spreading hate or fear, allow me to present Liberal radio and TV host Ed Schultz on MSNBC just tonight, as he discusses Sarah Palin's speech at the Tea Party Convention with Bob Shrum, Democratic strategist and perpetual party hack, who decided NOT to discuss her speech on intellectual grounds, but chose instead to take a cheap personal shot at Palin by bitterly declaring: "She came across as a merchant of hate with an oh gosh smile." Wow, that's some real Ivy League intellectual analysis there, huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3pre0VgX5s


So, I'll repeat what I said before: Yeah, you guys are right.
No on on the Left could ever be accused of peddling hate or fear themselves.
(insert mocking eye roll here)

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

These are ATTACK issues, and they are done by political people--like you who despise Obama to begin with without a reason, and hate after you have a reason.

On what basis do you claim I despised Obama without reason?

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

On what basis do you claim I despised Obama without reason?

Before, I merely despised him.

TRACY:

Remember, you said this without a reason attached to it?


TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

Remember, you said this without a reason attached to it?

I said

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Before, I merely despised him. Seeing as how BO has now targeted my job and lifelong goal I am in a particularly foul mood when it comes to him today.

I didn't think I had to put a reason on it. There's 31 pages of my reasons on this thread