Barack Obama

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY:

Joe Wilson defines what it is to be a Conse 'Pub, like you.

TAL

Before, I merely despised him. Seeing as how BO has now targeted my job and lifelong goal I am in a particularly foul mood when it comes to him today.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Before, I merely despised him. Seeing as how BO has now targeted my job and lifelong goal I am in a particularly foul mood when it comes to him today.

TRACY


So, you ONLY despised him from when? 9/08?

Do you know how many people lost their jobs in 2008?

Cheney told Bush that they had to do something to avoid being Hooverized.

You blame Obama, and Limbaugh blamed him for the economy in 9/08.

Your opinion appears to be colored (influenced) by your ideology, while I prefer facts. Bush had 116 questionable actions in 8 years, which is more than 1 a month. I'm different: If Obama pulled the same stunts, I'd bust on him but good. I'm a Mod Dem, but I don't buy blind allegiance to anybody. The man shows me he'll do his best, and that's all a realistic person can ask for.




TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY:

It was an over-the-top back-and-forth with The Angry Postman, and was out of context in the course of the conversation. You didn't take the post out of context, but it was out of the context of the back-and-forth conversation.

See why I feel poisoned?

TAL

Not really...

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY


So, you ONLY despised him from when? 9/08?

Do you know how many people lost their jobs in 2008?

Cheney told Bush that they had to do something to avoid being Hooverized.

You blame Obama, and Limbaugh blamed him for the economy in 9/08.

Your opinion appears to be colored (influenced) by your ideology, while I prefer facts. Bush had 116 questionable actions in 8 years, which is more than 1 a month. I'm different: If Obama pulled the same stunts, I'd bust on him but good. I'm a Mod Dem, but I don't buy blind allegiance to anybody. The man shows me he'll do his best, and that's all a realistic person can ask for.

He's trying his best to go against the will of the country.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Not really...



He's trying his best to go against the will of the country.

TRACY:

The will of the people is blurred. It is distorted by claims, like Fox, where I've heard that the majority of the people feel like Conse 'Pubs. The rub is that they've felt that way for most of Obama's term, like they gave him a month. That's what Beck did: He started his 9-12 project (tea parties) after 1 month, and they marched on DC for tax day. That will is distorted by carefully worded polls, and slanted audiences. Distortion example from Hannity: Bush won '04 in a landslide, but almost 50 million people voted against Obama. The latter sounds like he lost the election.

TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY:

The will of the people is blurred. It is distorted by claims, like Fox, where I've heard that the majority of the people feel like Conse 'Pubs. The rub is that they've felt that way for most of Obama's term, like they gave him a month. That's what Beck did: He started his 9-12 project (tea parties) after 1 month, and they marched on DC for tax day. That will is distorted by carefully worded polls, and slanted audiences. Distortion example from Hannity: Bush won '04 in a landslide, but almost 50 million people voted against Obama. The latter sounds like he lost the election.

TAL

Yeah... what happened after a month into BO's term? He spent 2.5 times as much as Bush did during his entire 8 years! And that includes Bush's $700 billion Wall Street bailout! And it wasn't Glenn Beck that started the Tea Parties. This is what started it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEDlod2V80U

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Yeah... what happened after a month into BO's term? He spent 2.5 times as much as Bush did during his entire 8 years! And that includes Bush's $700 billion Wall Street bailout! And it wasn't Glenn Beck that started the Tea Parties. This is what started it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEDlod2V80U

TRACY:

So, what would you have done? Nothing or more tax cuts? Why didn't Bush do nothing or more tax cuts? I put tea parties in parenthesis, because of the tax-day protest and not the founding of. Sorry, I wasn't totally clear on that which was a Ron Paul Libertarian design.

TAL

[jimnaseum]

Fuzzy Math and Teabagger IQs aren't going to sink the Democrats, it's going to sink the Republicans. The baggers are already bickering with Sarah Palin because she's supporting McCain over some wacko DJ in Arizona. Every time any serious Republican candidate is pressed on the birthers, or death panels, or evolution, or Rush Limbo, you can see them disappear before your eyes. The Democrats don't need ACORN, but the Republicans need Glenn Beck. Good luck with that.
BTW, wasn't Obama magnificent last night?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY:

So, what would you have done? Nothing or more tax cuts? Why didn't Bush do nothing or more tax cuts? I put tea parties in parenthesis, because of the tax-day protest and not the founding of. Sorry, I wasn't totally clear on that which was a Ron Paul Libertarian design.

I think Ron Paul had it right. We should never have done the Wall Street bailout in the first place because we can't afford it. If you're deep in debt, anyone with a brain knows you don't put yourself further in debt. That's obvious and I can't believe it has to be explained.

And you don't do nothing. The budget MUST BE BALANCED! This is another thing that is so obvious it shouldn't need explaining. There's tons of pork that we're paying for, and everybody knows it. Cut that crap out.

We need to transform the country so that we produce actual goods, not just services. When we export goods, we lower our deficit. And the way to do that is NOT by increasing taxes on corporations. They will scale their production down, go bankrupt or leave the country.

Yes, it will be painful for a few years. Pain is the only way to lower the deficit, but when we do, we will be much stronger as a nation. What BO is doing is propping up every bad idea that has failed so that it stays with us and continues to screw us.

And btw, even doing nothing would be better than what BO has done. The economy started to recover before the stimulus package had a chance to go into effect.