Barack Obama

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Yes, I viewed the video and yes the concerns are real. However, it is full of distorted rhetoric lies and nonsense. The Democrats are heading for a catastrophe next election. A return of Republicans? They are no more competent than the Democrats. California has failed and the Federal government is very close. So, what do we have to look forward to? Failed governments often lead to Fascism, is it just around the corner? Immersed in perpetual war the country would eventually go the way of all fascist countries. Our beautiful prosperous country is on the verge.

Failed governments can lead to anything, depending on why it failed and what's left over. Republicans have not given this country perpetual war. If you're whining that we were engaged in war after the 9/11 attacks I would tell you to get real. That is the obvious result after an attack like 9/11. If Bill Clinton was in office, we'd have the same war. I'd hate to see how BO would have handled it though. Hopefully we don't have to find out. Republicans are more likely to stand their ground rather than going around groveling, kissing hands and apologizing for anything and everything. This is a good thing. If a country shows weakness, other countries will be happy to trample over you. Now I am not advocating going to extremes and becoming a militaristic fascist state. There are ways to stand your ground via the moral highground, economically, diplomatically, and yes, a big stick (wasn't that a democrat who said that?).

I hope the republicans return to power after BO's BS. Competent or not they will be much better. I'm hoping for competence though because it can be a lot better, and this country can be put on the right track. What we need are real conservatives, not RINOS. We need replublicans who aren't afraid to stand their ground when their opposition is a black person. We need republicans who will deal with the illegal immigration problem - and not by making them US citizens. And among these awesome republicans, we need a leader who can connect with the American people. The problem is, I don't see those qualities in the republicans we have now. Maybe the teabaggers will find some, I don't know. But even a RINO is better than the dems we have now - a fact that would have saved this country if voters realized that last election.

BTW, the so called liberals in power now, are not really liberals. Liberal is closer to libertarian. The "liberals" we have now are the progressives (from the early 1900s) that have hijacked the party.

[randolph]

Hey Tracy, the Teabaggers are having a conference!

From Washington Monthly;

THE POWER OF STRANGE PEOPLE IN A LARGE GROUP.... After a series of bizarre, and often offensive, rallies in D.C., the Teabaggers are apparently going to get together in about a month for a convention.

The Tea Party Nation is gearing up for its first ever convention, to be held at the famed Opryland Hotel in Nashville next month. It's a confab designed to help the tea parties from across the country organize, with an agenda that sounds a lot like an attempt to form an official third party.

Organizers ask for local groups to "select their best to meet with their peers from across the nation" and who "have the most desire to move this process of organizing to the next level."

They'll have a workshop about "the importance of becoming Precinct Committee Chairs."

"Please join us, make and form strong bonds, network, and make plans for action. We are doing what we could not do alone, to preserve that which we value," organizers write.

The three-day event scheduled for the first weekend in February is already rubbing some conservative activists the wrong way -- the Tea Party Nation gathering is charging $549 per person. That's significantly more expensive than tickets to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) -- traditionally the biggest right-wing event of the year -- which will be held two weeks later just outside D.C.

Of course, one explanation for the steep costs is Sarah Palin -- the former half-term governor will reportedly receive as much as $100,000 to speak to Tea Party Nation, while CPAC does not pay any of its speakers. (Palin was invited to appear at CPAC, but declined, perhaps because there was no money in it.)

And speaking of Palin, the guest list for Tea Party Nation is what drives home just how radical a group we're talking about here.

In addition to Palin, attendees will hear from, among others:

* World Net Daily's Joseph Farah

* Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.)

* Former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore

* Religious right leader Rick Scarborough

This is not a group of mainstream Americans. Farah's conspiracy-driven website has taken the lead in peddling Birther nonsense; Bachmann is mad as a hatter; Moore is a theocrat who doesn't believe the Bill of Rights applies to the states and was removed from office for ignoring federal court orders he didn't like; and Scarborough is a radical preacher best known for being a Jerry Falwell acolyte, writing a book called Liberalism Kills Kids, and trying to establish his own mini-theocracy in Texas several years ago.

Sounds like a bunch of real winners.
So would you like these characters running the country?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Sounds like a bunch of real winners.
So would you like these characters running the country?

Sarah Palin, and Rick Scarborough... Hell no. Don't really know about the others. But sounds like the republicans that are driving the teabaggers to want to create their own party.

btw, the teabaggers take offense to the term teabaggers. I think they should embrace it. Like the yankees did. That was a derogatory term from the brits, but the yankees embraced it and it became a source of pride.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Sarah Palin, and Rick Scarborough... Hell no. Don't really know about the others. But sounds like the republicans that are driving the teabaggers to want to create their own party.

btw, the teabaggers take offense to the term teabaggers. I think they should embrace it. Like the yankees did. That was a derogatory term from the brits, but the yankees embraced it and it became a source of pride.

In order to have some balance in this country, we need a "good" Republican party. The likes of Ike, Earl warren and even Nixon(sort of) were good traditional Republicans. There adjenda was not to destroy the "new deal" but to make it better. Warren's "pay as you go" policy when he was governor of California was the best of times for the state. Ike's warning about the military/industrial complex are even more true today. Nixon's support of the EPA was a breakthrough policy.
Nowadays its who can be Californicated next.
Its our country, we need to take it back.

[TracyCoxx]

Oh lovely. Our wonderful president has exempted union workers from paying tax for national health care. The rest of us will take up their share. You gotta hand it to him. He always remembers those who put him in office.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Oh lovely. Our wonderful president has exempted union workers from paying tax for national health care. The rest of us will take up their share. You gotta hand it to him. He always remembers those who put him in office.

The fate of politicians is to pander to their base. Nothing new there.

[randolph]

enough is enough!

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report) - In the wake of his comments about the earthquake in Haiti, televangelist Pat Robertson has become a "public relations nightmare" and a "gynormous embarrassment to me, personally," God said today.

In a rare press conference at the Grand Hyatt in New York City, the usually reclusive Almighty said that He was taking the unusual step of airing His feelings in public because "enough is enough."

"I pray that his TV show would just go away, but of course, when you're me there's no one to pray to," God said, to the laughter of the packed room of reporters.

While God held out no hope that Rev. Robertson's "700 Club" would be cancelled any time soon, He did say, somewhat ruefully, "If Pat Robertson were on NBC he'd be replaced by Jay Leno by now."

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[parr]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Oh lovely. Our wonderful president has exempted union workers from paying tax for national health care. The rest of us will take up their share. You gotta hand it to him. He always remembers those who put him in office.

If Brown get's in all these dirty deeds will pass.

[CCC]

Originally Posted by parr

If Brown get's in all these dirty deeds will pass.

Hey Parr--I think you have it ass backwards. If Brown gets in -- it stops the health care package in it's tracks because they lose the 60-40 vote needed to ream it up our asses.