Self Defense

[Rachel]

[QUOTE=Tread;11172 Not one of the three persons that walked in your direction has threatened you or your family. A violent potential or weapons wasn’t visible either, expect by you.
You judge them to be criminal by their looks, age and walking in your direction. You should always be aware in suspicious settings, but it’s not sure they were criminals. In the second case, if he watched you the whole time, and waited for you, he is supposable after your money.



Hmm I thought I described the situation quite well enough for a rational person to put themselves in my shoes at that time and place. And I suppose all 3 gentlemen were just approaching me for friendship and good conversation? You are very naive Tread.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Hmm I thought I described the situation quite well enough for a rational person to put themselves in my shoes at that time and place. And I suppose all 3 gentlemen were just approaching me for friendship and good conversation? You are very naive Tread.

It's not his faul Rachel. Maybe this pic will help you understand.

[SweetCharmer]

ok now this is just my observation but i think this Thread has slightly lost the plot.

this thread obviously started out in helping people get information on getting DIFFERENT ways on self defense but all i can is that its boiled down into an argument between those inside and outside of America. look Tread. Stop trying to push your views onto people when guns have obviously worked in america for the last 200 years or so. different cultures have different rules, thats the beauty of this world. in the end you're gonna get crime anywhere. plus i don't hear you going on about other places with gun crime like thailand, etc.

At the same time Rachel and AngryPost, i know from reading the posts that guns have saved you or your loved ones time and time again yet it wouldn't hurt to acknowledge the usefulness of hand to hand. there was a story here in the UK of a cop that was almost stabbed in the neck if it weren't for his training and fast reflexes yet at the same time here people are so eager to have a gun that they've taken to modifying BB guns to fire live ammo. gun crime is everywhere. different countries deal with it in different ways and for each country it seems to be working for a while.

Bottom line. if someone asks for advice on this thread instead for stating the importance of a gun alone. put down some ideas for hand to hand as a added help. it never pays to be well prepared.

Love & Peace

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by SweetCharmer

At the same time Rachel and AngryPost, i know from reading the posts that guns have saved you or your loved ones time and time again yet it wouldn't hurt to acknowledge the usefulness of hand to hand. there was a story here in the UK of a cop that was almost stabbed in the neck if it weren't for his training and fast reflexes yet at the same time here people are so eager to have a gun that they've taken to modifying BB guns to fire live ammo. gun crime is everywhere. different countries deal with it in different ways and for each country it seems to be working for a while.

Mr. Tread was asking why some use rifles and shotguns as opposed to a pistol; I was merely explaining why, albeit we did get a wee sidetracked. The importance of unarmed combat(UAC) is definetly not overlooked. When in public, I carry a blade on me but sometimes it is not practical or lawful to do so and I know various holds and strikes for when I am unarmed. There is a wooden riot baton that I keep close to my bed that I also train with. Knowing other ways of injuring or killing people is definetly a useful skill.

Ms. Rachel also stated in another thread that she is trained in Muay Thai.

[Rachel]

I told Pixie to carry brass knuckles like I do.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by SweetCharmer

ok now this is just my observation but i think this Thread has slightly lost the plot.

this thread obviously started out in helping people get information on getting DIFFERENT ways on self defense but all i can is that its boiled down into an argument between those inside and outside of America. look Tread. Stop trying to push your views onto people when guns have obviously worked in america for the last 200 years or so.

Indeed it lost slightly the plot. I've problems to not voice my opinion, if getting asked. But I'm not trying to push my views on other. I want to understand, why so many get a big weapon extra for home defence. I grasped KittyKaiti's and AngryPostman's personal opinion, but in general I don't get it and would like to hear more.
Even it was enjoyable, for the threads sake I'll stop asking why they expect some kind of Jason Voorhees in their home. (Damn, did it again)


Martial Arts:
In my opinion American Kenpō Karate, German Ju-Jutsu and a bit easier (Civilian) Krav Maga are the best choices for self defence. But the most martial arts have good working defence techniques.
If you don't want to learn the full program a usual self defence course teaches essential moves, behaviour, responsibility and confidence in a short time.

Personally I would prefer Spetsnaz Combat-Sambo or Jeet Kune Do, but it's nearly impossible to get a proper training in these.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by Tread

Martial Arts:
In my opinion American Kenpō Karate, German Ju-Jutsu and a bit easier (Civilian) Krav Maga are the best choices for self defence. But the most martial arts have good working defence techniques.
If you don't want to learn the full program a usual self defence course teaches essential moves, behaviour, responsibility and confidence in a short time.

Personally I would prefer Spetsnaz Combat-Sambo or Jeet Kune Do, but it's nearly impossible to get a proper training in these.

If I had the time to thoroughly learn martial arts, I would want to learn any of these 4: Muay Thai, Wrestling(Greco-Roman or Collegiate), Krav Maga or Judo.

Combat Sambo is pretty badass but I don't know anyone down here that teaches it.