Self Defense

NCC-1701 · #1 10-13-2009

What worries me when i read this topic, is that how often crimes of an extreme nature seem to happen in america. This is just my thoughts, but surely if guns were illegal, sure you wouldent have one, but neither would the criminals. So crime would decrease. But thats just my 2 cents. Is there any Tgirl from the UK or elsewhere who needs to defend themselves on here? it would be interesting to find out how. as guns and knifes are illegal to carry in this country.

KittyKaiti · #2 10-13-2009

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Originally Posted by NCC-1701

What worries me when i read this topic, is that how often crimes of an extreme nature seem to happen in america. This is just my thoughts, but surely if guns were illegal, sure you wouldent have one, but neither would the criminals. So crime would decrease. But thats just my 2 cents. Is there any Tgirl from the UK or elsewhere who needs to defend themselves on here? it would be interesting to find out how. as guns and knifes are illegal to carry in this country.

The U.S. Supreme Court has overturned many gun bans because of the fact that banning guns does not lower crime. Banning guns remove guns from law abiding citizens. Criminals still find a way to get them. Banning guns would create the same scenario we had when we outlawed alcohol. It will generate crime, crime more vicious and hazardous than we have already.

Rachel · #3 10-13-2009

One point that seems to be overlooked so far is that a lot of home break ins are committed by druggies

Rachel · #4 10-13-2009

In this country Mr. Tread someone somewhere used their piece to PREVENT a crime today. And yesterday it happened and will tommorow. These occurances are not reported. Happened to me twice a few years ago. Did I report it? Of course not. More then likely I would have been interrogated and treated like the criminal. This happened 15 years ago when I was younger stronger and more manly lol. In the first instance my wife and I went to a dept store to buy baby clothes for our new son. The store (Sears) had multiple entrances and we were on the far side of the building more around the back. My now ex wife was putting our son into his car seat while I was standing in front of the car smoking a cigarette. While there were cars on either side of mine when we parked, there was now a large van on one side and a pickup truck on the other. Being alert and scanning the scene I see 2 underpriveledged youths come around the corner of the building and immediately point to our running car and pick up their pace confering amongst themselves as they changed direction towards us. My wife still had her fat ass sticking out the door cutting me off from her and my son. I look around... Nobody here but us sheep or so it seemed to the two would be car jackers. As they got closer they were now out of site behind the van. I used this opportunity to draw my Ruger .357 Had it pointing right over the top of the opened car door . Told wife to hurry up. I then see the two pass the back of the van and immediately turn into the space between our car. They stopped short and excitedly when I thumbed that hammer back and they realized we were no easy victims and beat a hasty retreat. Now had I not been armed that day Mr. Tread what do you suppose might have happened to my family?

Rachel · #5 10-13-2009

The second time I was alone at a large food store in the late evening picking up a few things on my way home from work. Since it was payday I cashed my paycheck at the store(with minmum $30 purchase). Taking my one bag I notice a middle aged man standing by the front windows of the store about 20 feet from me. As I start walking out I know he's following me. My car is parked about 150 feet away maybe the tenth car down the aisle. As I'm almost to my car I'm unzipping my jacket I can hear his pace increasing. I swing my jacket back and pop the retaining strap on my holstered .22 auto. He's now about ten short feet away. He sees this and immediately turns at a 90 degree angle and makes tracks. Now at that time in my life I was into lifting weights and martial arts. Hmm a 6'2" 220 pound man is no easy mark yet this criminal was willing to risk his own neck for that 600 dollars he knew I had. Desparate men do desparate things Tread, they arent all stupid. Had I not been armed with more then my fists and feet maybe I would have been stabbed or clubbed. Or shot who knows? In both these instances my pistols prevented crimes without firing a shot.

DSL · #6 10-14-2009

Well here is a sad story but a true one as well, a coule yearsa ago
there were this couple man and women both married happily.
well any way they were upstairs in bed fast asleep one night
between the hours of 12 to 1 am suddenly the husband hears a noise
downstairs and somwe rumbling about which awakend him he get up
goes right for his service revolver a 38 spec. S&W snubnose he tells the
wife to stay calm and don't move.
finally he is standing at the top of the stairs and at the bottom of the stairs
was this black silhouette it was to dark to see who it was but by
blind instinct he pulls his weapon and fires!! down the stairs, killing who was
at the bottom. he went down to take a closer look it turned out to be his
16 year old daughter coming home late that night with her boy friend
her boy friend had just left dropping her off. he shot her right threw the chest killing her instantly
she was DOA at the scene.

which reminds me of the movie american gun if any of you saw it
that just the way it happend. but this was true they didn't charge him
with anything it was a terrible accident and she was in the wrong place at
the wrong time!.

which leave me with this all ways think twice before firing your weapon
you never know who might be at the bottom of those stairs
the farther had to be rushed to the hosiptal for shock
he turned in his revolver and promised never to pick up a gun again.

this was going back a few years but i had forgotten some of it
but i herd it happend again from another couple she was due to be married
with him and this women came home from work and she was shot accidently
by her due to be wed boy friend.

The Conquistador · #7 10-14-2009

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blind instinct he pulls his weapon and fires!! down the stairs, killing who was
at the bottom. he went down to take a closer look it turned out to be his
16 year old daughter

These are unfortunate incidents but could have been prevented through simple training. It doesn't cost much to go through a home defense class and you are taught proper engagement of a target and numerous other things. Even in the military, you are taught to issue a warning before you engage someone. It only takes a second to shout out,"Halt!" ,"Who goes there?" or "Identify yourself or I will fire upon you!"

Escalation Of Force training will help you to handle a situation without guns blazing. If you are going to be armed, take a class on how to properly use your weapon of choice; simple actions like learning how to properly handle a weapon and proper escalation and de-escalation of force and rules of engagement can save lives without ending them.

People need to understand that weapons handling is not like in the movies where you pick up a gun/knife/baton and suddenly you are an expert with nerves of steel. There are very real emotions that come into play such as fear and very real consequences that arise as a result of your actions. With proper training, you can overcome the stresses that might cause you to otherwise do something rash like firing without properly identifying your target.

If you choose not to properly train or go through the motions of proper weapons use, you have no business handling a weapon.

randolph · #8 10-14-2009

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