Barack Obama

[transjen]

Originally Posted by new believer

TracyCoxx, you at least know something that your critics don't. Law, Reality and facts behind rhetoric. The one remark about W being the one above all to be impeached showed their own lack of knowledge of law , their willingness to jump in with the 'ship of fools' and quite possibly could be benefitting from the smae folks who consistently raise our taxes to procure votes from those that don't pay taxes. And that group is getting larger daily.
But aside from W and impeachment, as recent I say EVERY person who knowingly allowed BO (he is NOT a Born American)to not only run but to grant him the office through the voter fraud should be impeached then executed for treason. And with B.Clinton, minimally two felony counts he was fined for by a federal judge of over 1/4 million dollars and barred from practicing and any connection of a law firm for 7 years should have been a automatic removal.(1-He willing lied & withheld information obstructing justice and 2- He tried to get others to alter their testimony. On #1,he could have pled the 5 admendment,but that was embarressing. It's the #2 that was most damaging) Finally, Congress had indeed impeached him. The Senate did not (which would have made gore President.)because by a very slim margin, the senators who voted against impeachment were warned not to. Does that explain the 'missing' FBI files?(Filegate) You know, the files that were taken illegally by a gutter bar bouncer hired by hillary and found a year later,after the hearings were over, with only her fingerprints on them on a table OUT IN THE OPEN. Funny how the media dropped that ball.

PS Tracy your now my 2/3 favorite person on this forum. You have brains and spunk.And if that is your pic on the avatar, beauty.

Oh brother another loyal Bush fanactic, So you think lieing to congress and the citizens of the USA not grounds for imoeachment go back and watch W's state of the union where W claims IRAQ is prepareing to go nuclear and he gave congress the same cock and bull story to start the IRAQ war wasting trillions of tax dollars and thousands of US troops there lives for W's lies.
Then you give the standard GOP crap about taxes, What did Reageans trickle down accomplish in the 80s nothing but the rich getting richer and a sea of red ink in which the GOP didn't give a rat's ass about until Clinton became president then lo and behold the GOP wouldn't stop complaining about the sea of red ink Regan and Bush created and now it's the same crap coming from the right and agian this mess was created by trickle down econmics tax cuts only for the rich all from W and what did it accomplish agian the rich got richer and a sea of red ink that only now are you raising a stink, If the GOP really cared then they would call for the Bush tax cuts to be repeeled but we all know that we never happen because they'll say raising taxes on the rich will destory the ecomy So what jobs were created by tax cuts for the rich? Trickle down didn't work in the 80s and it didn't work for W and yet tax cuts for the rich is still the GOP's answer for everything
Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Oh brother another loyal Bush fanactic, So you think lieing to congress and the citizens of the USA not grounds for imoeachment go back and watch W's state of the union where W claims IRAQ is prepareing to go nuclear and he gave congress the same cock and bull story to start the IRAQ war wasting trillions of tax dollars and thousands of US troops there lives for W's lies.

Enough Jen. You have zero credibility with this claim until you can answer this question:

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

There was a commission set up to find out what happened wasn't there? What were the results of that?

I know your world probably doesn't recognize any such commission. Be brave though and take a look at reality.

Originally Posted by transjen

So what jobs were created by tax cuts for the rich?

Well, look at unemployment rates after Reagan became president, and compare them to unemployment rates after he left office. There's your answer.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

look at unemployment rates after Reagan became president, and compare them to unemployment rates after he left office. There's your answer.

So you credit trickle down for that ok then why didn't it work for W? More jobs were lost then were created under hiw watch and W with full support of the GOP brought back Reaganomics so where were the jobs? And last i checked none of the Bush tax cuts have been done away with so Reaganomics are still in effect so where are the jobs? Regeanomics = massive debit and nothing else


Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

So you credit trickle down for that ok then why didn't it work for W? More jobs were lost then were created under hiw watch and W with full support of the GOP brought back Reaganomics so where were the jobs? And last i checked none of the Bush tax cuts have been done away with so Reaganomics are still in effect so where are the jobs? Regeanomics = massive debit and nothing else


Jerseygirl Jen

Probably because Bush and/or his democrat congress spent too much. And yes, I've said Bush has over spent before - partially because of good reason. We were at war, and security and intelligence gathering had to be increased. And partially because in some areas they just over spent. But as I've said before, Bush is a rank amateur compared to Obama when it comes to overspending.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Probably because Bush and/or his democrat congress spent too much. And yes, I've said Bush has over spent before - partially because of good reason. We were at war, and security and intelligence gathering had to be increased. And partially because in some areas they just over spent. But as I've said before, Bush is a rank amateur compared to Obama when it comes to overspending.

So you are saying W's massive job losses was do to his overspending????At the time Reagan's debit was the biggest in history only topped by the debit created by the first George Bush and yet you credit them for there massive job creation, Sorry i can't blame W's over spending on this one i blame it on 20 years of NAFTA and massive outsourcing of jobs overseas for cheap labor as nothing is made here in the US anymore


Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

So you are saying W's massive job losses was do to his overspending????At the time Reagan's debit was the biggest in history only topped by the debit created by the first George Bush and yet you credit them for there massive job creation, Sorry i can't blame W's over spending on this one i blame it on 20 years of NAFTA and massive outsourcing of jobs overseas for cheap labor as nothing is made here in the US anymore


Jerseygirl Jen

W didn't have massive job losses. His unemployment numbers were pretty respectable overall. They could have been better though. And yes, Reagan's debt was the biggest in history. So was Clinton's, and Carter's, and Ford's, and Nixon's. It's been growing the whole time, except I think for Eisenhower.

Jobs are going over seas because it's cheaper to operate there. We need to cut taxes here. Before you dispute that, read this:
Ballmer Says Tax Would Move Microsoft Jobs Offshore

Originally Posted by Balmer

It makes U.S. jobs more expensive. We’re better off taking lots of people and moving them out of the U.S. as opposed to keeping them inside the U.S.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

W didn't have massive job losses. His unemployment numbers were pretty respectable overall. They could have been better though. And yes, Reagan's debt was the biggest in history. So was Clinton's, and Carter's, and Ford's, and Nixon's. It's been growing the whole time, except I think for Eisenhower.

Jobs are going over seas because it's cheaper to operate there. We need to cut taxes here. Before you dispute that, read this:
Ballmer Says Tax Would Move Microsoft Jobs Offshore

Balmers statments are standard Microsoft b--s. Go to Redmond Washington if you don't believe me. the place is swarming with Indians and other Asians working for Microsoft. If their foreign profits were taxed higher, they would bring more Indians into the country to work here.