Barack Obama

[TracyCoxx]

Well it's a good thing that Obama could take time out of his busy schedule of pushing a healthcare system that 80% of the public doesn't want, going on vacation, doing publicity stunts, keeping up with Kanye West and filling in for the Mayor of Chicago in trying to get the Olympics to come to Chicago and finally after 70 days to work General McCrystal into his schedule and talk about strategy in Afghanistan.

To put a war on the backburner for 70 days while our troops are in battle with no direction from the top is inexcusable.

If anyone needs confirmation of Obama's complete and utter ineptitude in foreign policy, the President of France (and for France's list of successes google 'french military victories' and click 'I'm Feeling Lucky') chastises Obama's position on Iran as "utterly immature". And goes on to say "We live in the real world, not the virtual world. And the real world expects us to take decisions.”

“President Obama dreams of a world without weapons … but right in front of us two countries are doing the exact opposite.

“Iran since 2005 has flouted five security council resolutions. North Korea has been defying council resolutions since 1993.

“I support the extended hand of the Americans, but what good has proposals for dialogue brought the international community? More uranium enrichment and declarations by the leaders of Iran to wipe a UN member state off the map,” he continued, referring to Israel.

The sharp-tongued French leader even implied that Mr Obama’s resolution 1887 had used up valuable diplomatic energy.

“If we have courage to impose sanctions together it will lend viability to our commitment to reduce our own weapons and to making a world without nuke weapons,” he said.

Mr Sarkozy has previously called the US president’s disarmament crusade “naive.”

This from a country who allowed the Germans to take over without firing a shot.

[randolph]

I'm feeling in a good mood today so here's some quotes from George Carlin.

"In America, anyone can become president. That's the problem."

"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."

"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity."

"Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too much money."

"Have you ever wondered why Republicans are so interested in encouraging people to volunteer in their communities? It's because volunteers work for no pay. Republicans have been trying to get people to work for no pay for a long time."

"Once you leave the womb, conservatives don't care about you until you reach military age. Then you're just what they're looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."

"The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post 'Thou shalt not steal,' 'Thou shalt not commit adultery,' and 'Thou shalt not lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment."

[The Conquistador]

Unfortunately randolph, George Carlin has no relevance in the international community, so his thoughts don't apply here.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Unfortunately randolph, George Carlin has no relevance in the international community, so his thoughts don't apply here.

???? He's irrelevant so his thoughts don't apply here. Well lets see, who's thoughts do apply here? How about Bin Laden, doesn't he have relevance in the international community?

[transjen]

Originally Posted by randolph

I'm feeling in a good mood today so here's some quotes from George Carlin.

"In America, anyone can become president. That’s the problem."

"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."

"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity."

"Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too much money."

"Have you ever wondered why Republicans are so interested in encouraging people to volunteer in their communities? It’s because volunteers work for no pay. Republicans have been trying to get people to work for no pay for a long time."

"Once you leave the womb, conservatives don't care about you until you reach military age. Then you’re just what they’re looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."

"The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post 'Thou shalt not steal,' 'Thou shalt not commit adultery,' and 'Thou shalt not lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment."

Jerseygirl Jen

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Well it's a good thing that Obama could take time out of his busy schedule of pushing a healthcare system that 80% of the public doesn't want, going on vacation, doing publicity stunts, keeping up with Kanye West and filling in for the Mayor of Chicago in trying to get the Olympics to come to Chicago and finally after 70 days to work General McCrystal into his schedule and talk about strategy in Afghanistan.

To put a war on the backburner for 70 days while our troops are in battle with no direction from the top is inexcusable.

If anyone needs confirmation of Obama's complete and utter ineptitude in foreign policy, the President of France (and for France's list of successes google 'french military victories' and click 'I'm Feeling Lucky') chastises Obama's position on Iran as "utterly immature". And goes on to say "We live in the real world, not the virtual world. And the real world expects us to take decisions.”

“President Obama dreams of a world without weapons … but right in front of us two countries are doing the exact opposite.

“Iran since 2005 has flouted five security council resolutions. North Korea has been defying council resolutions since 1993.

“I support the extended hand of the Americans, but what good has proposals for dialogue brought the international community? More uranium enrichment and declarations by the leaders of Iran to wipe a UN member state off the map,” he continued, referring to Israel.

The sharp-tongued French leader even implied that Mr Obama’s resolution 1887 had used up valuable diplomatic energy.

“If we have courage to impose sanctions together it will lend viability to our commitment to reduce our own weapons and to making a world without nuke weapons,” he said.

Mr Sarkozy has previously called the US president’s disarmament crusade “naive.”

This from a country who allowed the Germans to take over without firing a shot.

Thankyou Tracy or should i call you RushII or perhaps AnnII, Your view that we are doomed because the GOP is not in charge and we are doomed everytime the Dems are in charge never gets tired so by all means keep the GOP flag waving and remind us agian of the wonderful job W did in his eight years tell us of the millions of high paying jobs he created
TELL US THE ECOMIC GOLD MINE EVERYONE HAD tell us about the cheap oil prices tell us how he kept us out of a needless war tell us how he gave us a hugh budget surplus by giving tax cuts to the very rich tell us how he kept the terrorist from there attack on 9/11/01 and tell us how he kept IRAN and NORTH KOREA from going nuclear and tell us how great Wwas, You always bitch and complain about Obama and you always forget that W was the worst president ever, Obama will not be the greatest presdent but he sure as hell won't be the worst as it will be hard to take W out of that spot only JEB or Sarah could do that

Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Thankyou Tracy or should i call you RushII or perhaps AnnII, Your view that we are doomed because the GOP is not in charge and we are doomed everytime the Dems are in charge never gets tired so by all means keep the GOP flag waving and remind us agian of the wonderful job W did in his eight years tell us of the millions of high paying jobs he created.... blah blah blah

I point out how BO is the biggest screwup the whitehouse has ever seen, and you think that applies to all democrats. Why is that? BO isn't like all democrats. I think Clinton did a decent job with foreign affairs. Not a great job, since he didn't take al qaeda seriously enough, but he did a good job. BO's philosophy on foreign affairs is to ignore it.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I point out how BO is the biggest screwup the whitehouse has ever seen, and you think that applies to all democrats. Why is that? BO isn't like all democrats. I think Clinton did a decent job with foreign affairs. Not a great job, since he didn't take al qaeda seriously enough, but he did a good job. BO's philosophy on foreign affairs is to ignore it.

Like i said Obama sure as hell will not i repete will go be the greatest president ever and Clinton was a hell of a lot better but calling Obama the biggest screwup ever is going some considring we just had 8 years of W and only Sarah could be a bigger screw up then W oh by the way i rember seeing on CNN that a former Clinton aide who i believe was PaulB i won't even attempt to spell his last name but he's on CNN a lot told how then presdent Clinton tried to warn W about al qaede and Bin Laden is the US's biggest threat and W could care less and paid no attention, Oh fyi i didn't vote for Obama i voted a write in for Ron Paul


Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

McCain Palin quotes.

19. "She's a partner and a soul-mate." ―McCain on Palin, whom he had met only once before selecting her to be his running mate, "FOX News Sunday" interview, Aug. 31, 2008 (Source)

20. "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." ―McCain, to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there," as reported in the book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter (Source)

21. "That's exactly what we're going to do in a Palin and McCain administration." ―Palin, elevating herself to the top of the ticket, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sept. 18, 2008 (Source)

22. "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity." ―Palin, in her speech at the Republican Convention, quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once lamented that Franklin Roosevelt's would-be assassin hit the wrong man and also expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy would be gunned down (Source)

23. "Honestly, I have to analyze our relationships, situations and priorities, but I can assure you that I will establish closer relationships with our friends, and I will stand up to those who want to harm the United States. ... I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us and standing up to those who are not. And that's judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America and the entire region." ―McCain, after being asked if he would invite Spanish President Jose Rodriguez Louis Zapatero to the White House, casting an ally of the U.S. as a potential enemy while simultaneously confusing Spain for a Latin American country, interview with Radio Caracol Miami, Sept. 17, 2008 (Source)

24. "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?" ―Palin, interview with CNBC's "Kudlow & Co", July 2008 (Source)

25. "Across this country this is the agenda I have set before my fellow prisoners. And the same standards of clarity and candor must now be applied to my opponent." ―McCain, Bethlehem, Penn., Oct. 8, 2008 (Source)

Ah yes, if we had only elected the Palin/McCain ticket, everything would be fine. Such fine upstanding intelligent people. cough cough barf.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Like i said Obama sure as hell will not i repete will go be the greatest president ever and Clinton was a hell of a lot better but calling Obama the biggest screwup ever is going some considring we just had 8 years of W and only Sarah could be a bigger screw up then W

As always I will let you back up your claim about W before responding to it.

Originally Posted by transjen

oh by the way i rember seeing on CNN that a former Clinton aide who i believe was PaulB i won't even attempt to spell his last name but he's on CNN a lot told how then presdent Clinton tried to warn W about al qaede and Bin Laden is the US's biggest threat and W could care less and paid no attention,

Paul Bremer? Yeah, that's a hard one. Bush & Cheney tried to warn BO too. That did little good. BO is dismantling many of the policies that have given us intel we needed to disrupt upcoming attacks. Bush was delayed by idiots in Florida counting chads who were "trying to determine the intentions of the voters", so he was still putting his cabinet together for a few months. Then there was that incident with China. But he wasn't ignoring al Qaeda. By the beginning of September, he had plans to attack al Qaeda. BO hasn't done much better. His commanders are still demanding to know what BO's strategy is.

Originally Posted by transjen

Oh fyi i didn't vote for Obama i voted a write in for Ron Paul

LMAO Ron Paul is the exact opposite of who you support here, and I have used many of Ron Paul's arguments against BO's policies here, which of course, you vehemently argued against. Although, somehow, that doesn't surprise me about you.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

As always I will let you back up your claim about W before responding to it.


Paul Bremer? Yeah, that's a hard one. Bush & Cheney tried to warn BO too. That did little good. BO is dismantling many of the policies that have given us intel we needed to disrupt upcoming attacks. Bush was delayed by idiots in Florida counting chads who were "trying to determine the intentions of the voters", so he was still putting his cabinet together for a few months. Then there was that incident with China. But he wasn't ignoring al Qaeda. By the beginning of September, he had plans to attack al Qaeda. BO hasn't done much better. His commanders are still demanding to know what BO's strategy is.

LMAO Ron Paul is the exact opposite of who you support here, and I have used many of Ron Paul's arguments against BO's policies here, which of course, you vehemently argued against. Although, somehow, that doesn't surprise me about you.

Proof that W is the biggest screw up ever first just look at the mess he made our country his econmic policy's caused the biggest jump of poverty massive job loss the average american family annual income went down for the first time ever workers instead of getting an annual pay raise instead got an annual pay cut his trickle down BS was just that BS and last but not least THE IRAQ WAR the biggest screw up in history and lets not forget the wallstreet mess and the housing mess plus how he did nothing right after hurricane Katrina all this happend from 01 thru 08


As for why i voted for Ron Paul i did not aggree with everything on his aggenda but i liked his common sense ideas on how to stop the illeagel aliens by first doing away with all the freebe's like rent help food stamps health care schooling and so forth and then getting tought on those who employ illeagel aliens and if you do those they well stop coming and those here will leave so that was the main reason i did a write in for him as i didn't like Obama mainly do to him never giving details on all he wanted to do or even tell how he would actually bring these to pass and McCain lost my vote by picking Sarah as his running mate as she is a female George W Bush
Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Proof that W is the biggest screw up ever first just look at the mess he made our country his econmic policy's caused the biggest jump of poverty massive job loss the average american family annual income went down for the first time ever

Ah, but in the real world, economic problems can often take decades to come to fruition. I would explain the roots of the economic crisis, but we've been down this road several times. Suffice it to say, it's over your head.

Originally Posted by transjen

last but not least THE IRAQ WAR the biggest screw up in history

You wouldn't say Vietnam was a bigger screw up? We lost that one... had 58,000 casualties! And for what?

Originally Posted by transjen

how he did nothing right after hurricane Katrina all

What was he supposed to do? What about Louisiana's governor? What about New Orleans' mayor? It was well known that a hurricane would devastate New Orleans before Katrina. Why didn't they have mandatory evacuations? Why were all those hundreds of busses sitting there unused in the flood?

Originally Posted by transjen

As for why i voted for Ron Paul i did not aggree with everything on his aggenda but i liked his common sense ideas on how to stop the illeagel aliens by first doing away with all the freebe's like rent help food stamps health care schooling and so forth and then getting tought on those who employ illeagel aliens and if you do those they well stop coming and those here will leave so that was the main reason i did a write in for him as i didn't like Obama mainly do to him never giving details on all he wanted to do

That is coming. In his never ending quest to do as much damage to America as he can before he is impeached or his 4 years is up, he will make them all US citizens.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by transjen

i voted a write in for Ron Paul


Jerseygirl Jen

I also went for Ron Paul.