Feared or Respected?

[johndowe]

Hi there.

You would be betrayed in a minute if they were confronted by something they feared more.

Loved over feared, sure, loved over respected, couldn't realy choose, loved but not respected? I don't think so, you need both.

Another example:

You get hit by a car, hit and run, you are close to dying, people in nearby houses see you, but you can't see them.

Feared: reaction: let him die he won't terrorize us anymore.

Respected: reaction: Oh, no, call 911, they come to you, the ambulance is on the way, anything we can do to help you?

Still prefer feared?

JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I can't believe that nobody exept Creesence had anything to say about this, which is one of the leading cause of all inter-racial problems today, and most other intra-racial problems, where everybody wants to be respected but they don't understand what respect is, and all too often ends in bloodshed.

I do not request you to ansewer, I DEMAND IT.

JohnDowe.

[The Conquistador]

Fear and respect can go hand in hand. If you respect someone, you would be afraid to wrong them or dissappoint them in any way. So while you do fear them, it is a fear that can be healthy and beneficial to both. However, if you are talking about irrational fear, like someone threatening you with the prospect of death, I will have to go with respect instead.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

8 visitors and only 1 post, guys (and girls) get with the program.

Haven't you been disrespected, or were afraid of an asshole that liked to be feared?

Did you like it?

Well speak up, or maby i should say squeek up like little mice?

I guess Bionca was right when she said "the cowards we date".

So are you pissed enough to ansewer?

But of course i would have prefered not to have to taunt you into posting, but whatever works i guess.

Also if you do amass the courage to post, try to keep on subject and address the ptoblem, and realise that i only taunted you to try to get some ideas about the miss-information about the respect and fear problem, that often ends up killing our youth.

JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

You speak of the problems facing our youth. The root of the problem with them is that they don't learn what the word respect really means in school.

Respect is a feeling of esteem and honor for another; that is - you admire positive traits in that person. A feeling of very deep respect is veneration which includes love and reverance.

So where did these kids get the wrong idea? They have been taught that respect is coupled with fear. They are told to respect their teachers, their parents, their elders, the police, etc. Not because these people are worthy of respect, but because they are in positions of authority, and the youth are in a subordinate position - one of fear of punishment. So they are mixed up about the difference in respect for someone as a person and respect for a position of authority that someone holds.

It's almost as if we need another word for respect as applied to those in authority. How about fearspect?

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I am waiting for more replies and on Tuesday Sept. 22nd i will ansewer all, and thank you to all that have posted.

Jenae you do have good arguments.
And so do you Mr. angry.

JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Come on post, don't be shy.

JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

You speak of the problems facing our youth. The root of the problem with them is that they don't learn what the word respect really means in school.

Respect is a feeling of esteem and honor for another; that is - you admire positive traits in that person. A feeling of very deep respect is veneration which includes love and reverance.

So where did these kids get the wrong idea? They have been taught that respect is coupled with fear. They are told to respect their teachers, their parents, their elders, the police, etc. Not because these people are worthy of respect, but because they are in positions of authority, and the youth are in a subordinate position - one of fear of punishment. So they are mixed up about the difference in respect for someone as a person and respect for a position of authority that someone holds.

It's almost as if we need another word for respect as applied to those in authority. How about fearspect?

Hi there.

I hope the war axe is burried, it is on my end.

Yes it's true the definition is not out there, and it needs to get out.

You bring up a good point an new word for listening to authority figures is indeed needed, since using the word respect causes confusion, listen to and mind might be good, but still i'm not sure how to call it.

JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Fear and respect can go hand in hand. If you respect someone, you would be afraid to wrong them or dissappoint them in any way. So while you do fear them, it is a fear that can be healthy and beneficial to both. However, if you are talking about irrational fear, like someone threatening you with the prospect of death, I will have to go with respect instead.

Hi there.

I do respect many people, and i don't like to disappoint them, i don't want to wrong them, not because i'm afraid but because i respect them and myself, fear has it's place, in life and death situations, but to live in fear, not a life for me, i'm not used to taking shit from anyone, not my bosses, not my g/f's not my sister, not my dad, my mom did give me shit for a good 20-30 minutes once, for something i did but had FIXED, and she DID pay the price and never crossed me again, no i didn't hit her, i am very freindly, but i do not accept dis-respect from anyone, period.

And as for the respect fear thing, it seems to me that the more you respect someone the less you fear them, and the more you fear them the less you respect them, but the less fear on the respect is not that you'd flip them out, but you respect them back and treat them right as they treat you.

JohnDowe.

[Creedence]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

You would be betrayed in a minute if they were confronted by something they feared more.

Loved over feared, sure, loved over respected, couldn't realy choose, loved but not respected? I don't think so, you need both.

Another example:

You get hit by a car, hit and run, you are close to dying, people in nearby houses see you, but you can't see them.

Feared: reaction: let him die he won't terrorize us anymore.

Respected: reaction: Oh, no, call 911, they come to you, the ambulance is on the way, anything we can do to help you?

Still prefer feared?

JohnDowe.

Yes actually I would still prefer feared because you're under the impression that everyone would hate me.

I wouldn't treat everyone I know like a tyrant I would have a group of people who I care about and they care about me.

You said I need both but originally you mentioned I had to choose one or the other.

If I'm loved I'm vulnerable to many things such as betrayal and people thinking that while I'm compassionate I am also weak for it.

I would choose Love if I could but you asked to be feared or respected and you don't need to be loved to respected.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

It isn't the 22nd yet, keep posting.

JohnDowe.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Only one day to go, come on POST, it ain't that hard, and you'll feel good that you did.

JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Right back at ya!!! I think it is high time you posted some pics of yourself. And even if you didn't get any pics of the little grey guys, I'll bet you have some of yourself. So let's see them. I saw where you stated that you are a CD and nearly every CD has to take pics of themselves; it is almost an integral part of the scene. Hell, if this F2m Tboy?? had the balls to post self pics, anybody should.

http://forum.transladyboy.com/showth...329#post103329

[johndowe]

Hi there.

I posted this @ http://forum.transladyboy.com/showth...?t=6668&page=2

"I know this is off subject, but...

Jenae, much better exposure, you see what constructive criticism can do, the exposure is great, your face is in a normal human color, good job.

I guess people are starting to realise that I AM ALWAYS RIGHT ! (Althoug mostly true, it is a joke)"

Self pics, ok...

PIB00.jpg

Sand01a.jpg

Made those pics with webcam i was installing on a freind's cpu and didn't do any more after i saw them, i was pressed for time and did a quick change, only to test the cam, couldn't get myself to delete then though.

So have a good laugh, and lets get this over with.

JohnDowe.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Nope, no way! Nothing to laugh about!
unless you were saying that you left the pics on your friends computer.?? Now that would be funny if the pics were a complete surprise to the friend.

Black is my favorite color for the vinyl stuff too. Then comes red. Looks like stiletto heels, 5 or 6 inch? All in all, a pretty effective looking Dom Mistress outfit.

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by Creedence

Yes actually I would still prefer feared because you're under the impression that everyone would hate me.

I wouldn't treat everyone I know like a tyrant I would have a group of people who I care about and they care about me.

You said I need both but originally you mentioned I had to choose one or the other.

If I'm loved I'm vulnerable to many things such as betrayal and people thinking that while I'm compassionate I am also weak for it.

I would choose Love if I could but you asked to be feared or respected and you don't need to be loved to respected.

Hi there.

Re-read my post, you will see that i didn't say both respect and fear, i did say love and respect, not the same thing.

If you are loved, and you are vulnerable, and compassionate, vulnerable in love is NOT a bad thing, it means you truely love, trust and respect your lover, it is very far from beeing a weakness, being compassionate, is a VIRTUE, a strength and not a weakness, those who think that it is a weakness are fools that do not understand life and respect.

Love without respect canot flourish, it is choked out of existance by the lack of a good respectfull understanding of each of the parties.

You seem to see things from an adversarial point of view, not everybody is out to get you, most people are good and decent, lower your deflector shields once in a while and take the time to smell the roses, you may like what you see.

And if everybody in your viscinity is out to get you, and everybody else, get the heck out of there, that is NOT NORMAL, it is unhealthy for you and all that participate.

Also if you are feared outside of your home/entourage, it WILL come back to you and your entourage sooner or later, usually sooner, because of what you have to do to keep the fear fresh in those that fear you, and one day someone of your entourage will get you mad, and you will act the same way you have with the others that you want to frighten.


JohnDowe.