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SluttyShemaleAnna · #1 08-08-2008

Who's seen The Dark Knight?

If you haven't seen it, go to the cinema now, I don't care what time it is, go an queue up now!

And if you have seen it, why the fuck are you reading this forum instead of building a shrine to Heath Ledger and worshipping at it? Get to it, now!

Big_Willie · #2 08-09-2008

Well, it's a good movie but I wouldn't go that far.

Heath stole the movie with his performance, true but I wouldn't put him above Jack Nicholson, as Joker both were great in that role, thoug I have to admit, I liked the good ol' Jack a bit more.
And I must say, I like the style of the older movies more, they look more like a comic book movie than the new ones. These feel like "normal" action movies with some weird looking guys using cool gadgets. True, some of the stuff they did in the old movies was too over the top but now the Batman and the comic book feeling isn't there as strongly as before.

But anyway, I enjoyed the movie too, I can recommend it as well.

My ranking: 8/10
Though I was sad to see Katie Holmes

gone, who was a lot hotter than the new gal, Maggie.

sesame · #3 08-09-2008

This Looks so unfamiliar, it feels so much better! No, no, I'm not talking about the film. I'm referring to SS-Anna! Its the first Time she is actually praising someone, she is talking positively about something! Wow! The Dark Knight must have hit her pretty hard!

Well, I like The Dark Knight. But at the same time I like Jack Nicholson's Joker too. He was very weird, charismatic and Twisted as the Joker.

SluttyShemaleAnna · #4 08-09-2008

It's true I love Tim Burton's two Batman films, and Nicholson was great as the joker, but well, when Ledger does the how he got his scars bits and the questioning room bit, it's just freaking brilliant.

His hench men are great too "The boss said he'd take away the voices and replace them with bright lights like Christmas"

The only mistake Burton made in the first one is giving the joker too much back story, having the Joker kill Batman's parents was a mistake, I love how Nolan give the Joker no back story, he just appears fully formed in all his bizarre glory, and starts fucking up the city.

I love how twisted the new film is, and the way the Joker keeps fucking batman over, everytime Batman wins one, the Joker fucks him up again.

Excaliborg · #5 08-09-2008

the joker, a different class of criminal for sure. and batman's darker presence. made me look behind me once or twice.

SluttyShemaleAnna · #6 08-09-2008

Ohhh!! Let's do 'thing's I learned from The Dark Knight'

1) if you are being questioned by the police and the lights are off, it is probably because there is a Batman hiding behind you.

2) In a group of prisoners, it is the big menacing looking black guy who stands quietly for ages that is the good guy. (this is also true in all films)

3) The Joker always has an extra knife somewhere.

4) Gotham police are really shit at looking for bombs. Really shit.

5) Superhero wannabes in Gotham have very little imagination.

6) As always, security at high profile parties is very poor.

keep adding boys...

TheSkronkDonkey · #7 08-09-2008

Heather Ledger is fantastic and makes this movie.

Without him, in spite of the serious story, I think TDK would be a very bland and tepid affair. I have some problems with Nolan's style and sensibilities. For me, the Burton films are vastly superior. Dark wit, expressionist beauty, gothic scale.

Dumb stuff in TDK? How about an attorney punching a guy in court? Or Batman's super fantastical sonar device (I get the little "in joke", though -- i.e. bats use sonar ultrasound)? Or just what the f*ck happens at the party after Batman falls out the window with Rachel? Or Harvey Dent's very exaggerated burns? Lots of silly stuff in the movie, which is a problem given how credible Nolan tries to make it feel.

SluttyShemaleAnna · #8 08-09-2008

I don't see what is ridiculous about an attorney punching someone in court when he has just tried to shoot him. If someone tried to shoot you but his gun jammed, wouldn't you do something before he unjams it?

The bit where they try all the crime bosses at once was well funny.

Big_Willie · #9 08-10-2008

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Originally Posted by TheSkronkDonkey

Or Harvey Dent's very exaggerated burns?

Yeah, I didn't like that either. It didn't look very good for starters and it was just wierd, nothing like the comic books or the previous movies.

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Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

It's true I love Tim Burton's two Batman films, and Nicholson was great as the joker, but well, when Ledger does the how he got his scars bits and the questioning room bit, it's just freaking brilliant.

I agree about this one, Heath really gave an amazing performance. I didn't pay too much attention to him earlier but after this movie I'll have to check out a couple more from him. If he hadn't died, I'm sure he could've been the "next big thing" in Hollywood. RIP

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Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

The only mistake Burton made in the first one is giving the joker too much back story, having the Joker kill Batman's parents was a mistake, I love how Nolan give the Joker no back story, he just appears fully formed in all his bizarre glory, and starts fucking up the city.
I love how twisted the new film is, and the way the Joker keeps fucking batman over, everytime Batman wins one, the Joker fucks him up again.

I disagree about the backstory part but it was cool to see Joker just messing with everybody in this movie. Though it was also one of it's faults. Too much attention to Joker and "barely any" screentime for Bruce Wayne/Batman.

SluttyShemaleAnna · #10 08-10-2008

I don't care that the joker got all the screen time. We can see more batman in batman begins or in the next one, but if you want Joker, well there's not going to be any more now!

I think dent's burns were similar to some of the comic book, but the lack of hair was a bit crap, and the pop eye. Apparently the first look they tried was very realistic, but it grossed everyone out too much.

I loved Dent's transformation tho, from being a hero to a villain.

DL_NL · #11 08-10-2008

Naah, Batman doesn't do it for me. I did like X-Men a couple of years ago, though.

sesame · #12 08-11-2008

Like the Joker and the Batman in the Dark Knight, me and SluttyShemaleAnna would forever be fighting each other. I'm only confused about who is batman, and who is joker among the two of us!

#13 08-12-2008

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Originally Posted by TheSkronkDonkey

Heather Ledger is fantastic and makes this movie.

Without him, in spite of the serious story, I think TDK would be a very bland and tepid affair. I have some problems with Nolan's style and sensibilities. For me, the Burton films are vastly superior. Dark wit, expressionist beauty, gothic scale.

Dumb stuff in TDK? How about an attorney punching a guy in court? Or Batman's super fantastical sonar device (I get the little "in joke", though -- i.e. bats use sonar ultrasound)? Or just what the f*ck happens at the party after Batman falls out the window with Rachel? Or Harvey Dent's very exaggerated burns? Lots of silly stuff in the movie, which is a problem given how credible Nolan tries to make it feel.

i like a reliasm in cinema alot but when watching a comic book film i tend to suspend my disbelief. super hero films of this kind are suposed to be over the top.

#14 08-12-2008

yeah much like the first film i thought christian bale was as wooden as ever and the show was stolen by the vilains. whether or not ledger was a better joker than nickelson is hard to say though especialy given heath ledgers untimly demise. i to thought it was a stroke of genius not to have any back story to the joker, made him so much more interesting, my favorit bit of the film was when he burnt his share of the robery. i would like to know the real story of how he got his scars though

Big_Willie · #15 08-12-2008

I'm sure we would've found out more about him in the sequel.

And I don't think Bale was "wooden" in the first one, but I have to say, in this sequel he was just okay.

About realism vs. over-the-top in comic book movies. It depends, realistic approach can work if the material allows it. Like in the X-Men movies, I think they weren't too over the top and it worked, even though the comic books sometimes go way further than that. On the other hand adaptations like 300 or Sin City couldn't/shouldn't be done any differently than they were. And I think Batman could work as a more realistic kind of comic book movie but not like this. They have to show more gadgets, more "cool stuff" and effects. Like others said, this could be an ordinary action flick too if they switched Batman for an other character... So, I hope they'll change some things in the next one.

#16 08-12-2008

i don't know how they are going to do another one, they can't rely do one without the joker, and they definatly can't do it with anyone else playing the joker