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This might surprise some of our Liberal friends.
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so if cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs then where's the jobs?
All you hear from the GOP is the rich create jobs and by cutting there taxes the rich in turn will create jobs
So W cut taxes for the rich not once but twice and those cuts are still in effect and unlike all the BS from the GOP the truth is Obama did not add or raise taxes on these so called job creating saints So taxes on these job creaters has been cut for 12 years now so where are these jobs All four wanna be GOP presidents are screaming make the Bush tax cuts periment and give them even more tax cuts and it will put everyone back to work Why do people buy in to this BULLSHIT? it hasn't worked so far so way by keeping this policy going will all of asudden work So far all the GOP plans to restore America is keep the the failed agenda going by the poor deregalating rules for big bussiness and wallstreet Doing away with social security and medicare starting more wars and make sure the top one percent never pay any taxes just the same tired old GOP FU to the working class been there seen it lived it done it 2001-2008, 1980-1992,1968-1976 WAKE UP AMERICA A GOP whitehouse will make us a thrid world country Jerseygirl Jen |
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Can you see it ladies and gentlemen? Can you see those beautiful green pants and that brilliant white shirt emblazoned with dollar signs--a gaudy display that would make the Riddler squeal in joy?
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But, if I understand smc's post correctly, there is a better way to go about this: Tracy, by what method do lower taxes lead to higher employment?
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Jen - I LOVE your definition. You sum it up neatly.
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Are you sure about that? You might want to look up the numbers of republicans and democrats in the house at that time.
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Further, I did not post anything that could be construed as stating that this was a simple vote on the tax measure. My post specifically states: "get the Republicans to agree to other measures that were necessary at the time." I know you saw that in my post. |
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Personally, as someone who counts 64 members of his family lost to the Nazis in death camps, I find this to be reprehensible. I ask you, Tracy Coxx, do you repudiate all of your ideological cothinkers on so many issues who have made such comparisons? |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rytV6i6bSnA There's another one where he finds out his car has a parking boot put on it, or that Santa isn't real or that someone blew up his death star. This is yet another one that someone made with the revelation (recent revelation if you haven't read Obama's book) that he's eaten dog before. Did you miss that too? Dog recipes are flying all over the internet now (golden fried retriever, etc) and of course the hitler meme is not immune to it either.
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The joke obviously wasn't meant for you then.
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Answer my question.
Anyone else think Hitler is funny? How about in the context of Tracy Coxx's other political posts about Obama and Obama's positions, and given the Tuse of Hitler images at public Tea Party events. Or how about the recent statement by a Catholic bishop likening Obama to Hitler and Stalin? Last edited by smc; 04-23-2012 at 07:17 AM. |
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Absolutely, without equivocation. Any such comparison, besides being wrong, is scurrilous and without historical merit. And please note that I do not consider myself to be a liberal, nor do I hold liberal views by any genuine definition of that term. My views are considerably to the left of any "liberal," whether the U.S. definition of the term or the more widespread definition of the term globally.
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Thanks enough said.
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I don't mind people offering criticism about specific actions. What I don't llike is people who make blanket statments (basically ammounting to, he's just stupid) based on political party lines, personal opinion, or (dare I even say it) race.
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The genesis of the ongoing dispute over the method of political discourse on this site can be traced to such blanket statements.
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See this is what smc does. The video I posted makes absolutely no comparison between Obama and Hitler. But what has smc turned this into? An accusation that I did precisely that. And now others are asking smc if he would repudiate liberals who would _compare_ Bush to Hitler. The topic has now been successfully changed and I will be accused of not responding to criticisms or direct questions about my posts when in fact you are now talking about something I never did: comparing people to Hitler which has now been attributed to me.
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smc, I'm sorry for what happened to your family. It was a crime against humanity, but I don't see the video as attenuating the circumstances of what happened to your family and to the Jewish people. Nor do I see the video as making light of Hitler's and his regime's criminal acts. |
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My response to the posting was this: In an electoral environment where people have claimed a legitimate place in the political arena while carrying signs of Obama made to look like Adolph Hitler, and even comparing him to Hitler, this kind of thing ... even in jest ... is absolutely disgusting and without merit.Note that I did not attribute to Tracy Coxx the comparison he states I accuse him of. No, he makes that up, because he needs to accuse me of something that he thinks will make my point look illegitimate. Also, by doing so, he tries to shift the focus away from my point, which is precisely that given the political environment, and the comparisons made BY OTHERS, this kind of humor -- in my opinion -- is harmful. |
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^ One more thing: if the Hitler video was just about humor, why was it posted in one of the political threads?
I think anyone with half a brain can figure out the answer. |
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You've said that before and no one took it seriously. It's funny that you say it again... which is ironic if there's no humor allowed in political threads.
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Just passing this on...
""Of course jokes are posted in the political thread. Anything posted about the big "O" or by smc." You don't think this has serious readers do you?"
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I didn't write that humor wasn't allowed in the political threads. But, as is typical, you dodge the main point I did make on this particular subtopic of the argument: why did YOU choose to put it in a political thread? I don't expect you to answer, or address the issues about the comparisons made by others that make it so disgusting. Last edited by smc; 05-01-2012 at 09:14 PM. |
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Then you're just nitpicking again? Thanks for clarifying.
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And once again, I didn't attribute the comparison to you. You know it, I know it, and anyone with half a brain reading this knows it. As I wrote earlier, keep making that claim. Say it enough times, and eventually -- truth be damned -- someone other than you will believe it. Then you're just dodging the issue again. Thanks for clarifying. |
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Sure. We can do that. The issue we're now discussing is why TracyCoxx wanted to post a Hitler spoof video where it makes it look like Hitler is angry about discovering that Obama ate his dog Fluffy. Yes smc, I will do that for you. Would you prefer to split this thread into this new discussion or should we just continue along in here to discuss this issue?
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As I wrote somewhere else on this site, you make me want to vomit. It's not your political positions. I respect the opinions that differ from mine, when they're serious. I respect people who have them, too, if they own up to them and discuss them honestly. But you only do that if you don't get challenged. Then you pull this crap, and you make me want to vomit. |
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I merely took your odd accusations and demands to their logical conclusions.
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Might I suggest the addition of this for the site? http://planetsmilies.net/vomit-smiley-9529.gif
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You're a master at ignoring the substance of the points and then trying to make it look as if you're being accused, or harassed, or whatever. I salute your "skill," which I assume must work in some parts of your life since you employ it with such aplomb here. Whoops, I threw up on your shoes. |
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LOL well wha-d'ya know... smc made a funny. Well played.
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My "issue" doesn't need to be split off from this thread; you simply need to address the substantive points, instead of continuing to post transparent bullshit like the above designed to make it look like I'm the one who is dodging.
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Why did I post a Hitler spoof video where it looks like Hitler is angry about discovering that Obama ate his dog Fluffy? BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY! And as I mentioned before, I figured I'd just post it and people would look at it, laugh, or not, and go on with their lives. And you know what? Other people thought it was funny too. Now you know. Shall we make it one fifth now?
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Last edited by smc; 05-05-2012 at 04:21 PM. |
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What can I say, some moderators bring the best out of people. Don't stop now. We have arrived here at your insistence. I've tried ignoring you in the past, so now I'm indulging you. People are wondering why one tenth of this thread is filled with this nonsense. Show them what is so important about your issues that make turning one insignificant post into a 30 post train wreck. We are dying to know!
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First, TracyCoxx posted the link to the video. I wrote: In an electoral environment where people have claimed a legitimate place in the political arena while carrying signs of Obama made to look like Adolph Hitler, and even comparing him to Hitler, this kind of thing ... even in jest ... is absolutely disgusting and without merit. ... I never accused TracyCoxx of making the comparison. TracyCoxx posted no response to my direct question. Instead, TracyCoxx posted: When I asked the question again, tslust asked me if I similarly repudiated all liberals who compared Bush to Hitler? I did, unequivocally. In response, tslust posted: "Thanks enough said."The joke obviously wasn't meant for you then. Then TracyCoxx twisted the thread into being about me accusing TracyCoxx of making the comparison, which I never did. All I did was raise a question about the comparison in the context of the GOP -- a question legitimate to the thread. The record is there for all to see. Oh, by the way, TracyCoxx has never answered the question I originally posed. Last edited by smc; 05-06-2012 at 11:14 AM. |
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Your continued refusal to answer the question and your continued effort to suggest that it has been posted illegitimately or that it is "random" or "extraneous" or whatever speaks volumes. Your accusation that I am "just flinging crap to see what sticks" is not only untrue, but it is an insult to everyone who reads this thread, because it suggests that they are stupid and even, perhaps, functionally illiterate. You should take a lesson from tslust, who more often than not agrees with your political positions. tslust didn't see the point as extraneous, but instead turned the question back at me. We both thus had an opportunity to repudiate these comparisons. The only defense you seem to have left, as stated in this latest post, is that what you posted is extraneous itself, and has nothing to do with anything relevant to the thread. No one believes that. You're just saying that because you're too much of a coward to own up to the facts as stated in my earlier post and your own responsibility in derailing this thread, which you cynically sought to assign to me. |
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I've pretty much tuned out this entire Hitler back-and-forth. But for what it's worth, Tracy, you DO have a pretty well established history of dodging the meat and potatoes of a post and trying to change the topic. Presumably this is because you don't have a substantive argument to back up your beliefs.
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So are you saying you're asking my thoughts about the Obama/Hitler comparison because this is a GOP candidates thread, and the Hitler video reminded you that some supporters of the tea party, a political movement that the GOP candidates gave varying degrees of lip service to, have made Obama/Hitler comparisons? And not because the video itself compares Obama to Hitler in any way? Quote:
prediction: smc will now accuse me of wanting private conversations. I am not though. It would just be nice to have a conversation with other people on this forum without being interrupted by the same person every single time.
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^^^ NOTICE ABOVE that TracyCoxx continues to post justifications for what can now only be construed as troll-like behavior (as generally defined with respect to Internet forums) rather than address the questions posed to him about politics in a political thread. NOTICE ABOVE how TracyCoxx tries to denigrate GRH with his inferences and charges (and especially by trying to tie her to me in a scurrilous way). NOTICE ABOVE that TracyCoxx once again seems to reserve some right to post one-to-one conversations on this Forum, in public threads, and by inference wants anyone who TracyCoxx doesn't agree with to be denied the right to participate in those public conversations. And finally, NOTICE ABOVE that TracyCoxx is still dodging the substantive political issue raised in this discussion that TracyCoxx provoked.
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uh oh... smc is using font size 3 now. This must be serious! I'd hate to get him up to font size 4
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So in your round-about reasoning this is a legitimate discussion for the thread. Fine, you go and discuss it. I still don't see how this is a discussion I provoked.
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Sure, it looks like you did since you use the time-honored trick of doing something, calling it something else, and then making a big issue of it as the "something else" every time you're called on doing the "something" it really is. Quote:
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By the way, where's your post excoriating tslust for intervening in the discussion? |
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^ Come to think of it, I think we can conclude that because Tracy Coxx will not answer the question about Hitler, the Tea Party, and GOP candidates, we have to assume that Tracy Coxx is unwilling to repudiate the comparisons that others draw. I can think of no other reason not to answer the question. No one put on the spot would be likely to say that she or he legitimizes these comparisons (except maybe someone at a Tea Party rally or on Fox "News"), and only Tracy Coxx seems to think the question is illegitimate (in Tracy Coxx's case, though, we don't really know if that's an honest opinion or just an excuse for not having to answer).
Process of elimination can sometimes be a powerful thing in finding the truth. |
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