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As I have posted before: "All generalizations are false, including this one." -- Mark Twain "All generalizations are dangerous, even this one." -- Alexandre Dumas P?re |
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I wouldn't say they conform "precisely". The individuality and the notions are also generalizations
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"Man's capacity for justice makes democracy possible; but man's inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary." R.N. |
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Or they may. That's the point of calling out a generalization.
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They can't! There is no point where there is absolute conformity.
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They may generally conform to the precise generalizations that you continue to make. The point is: enough already with the useless generalizations! |
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WTF???!!!
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You claim "I don't get it" and then you mirror my point in that there are no absolutes.
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Not according to a Japanese court!
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I've had guys try this theory on myself before. I lost my testicles in an accident and in searching for information ran across shemales...and then castrated shemales. I was attracted quite simply because we have the same equipment...or lack of it! I'm straight or consider myself straight....but now what's straight or gay? Does this mean I can only have straight sex with someone who HAS testicles? How about if I just go on about my business and live like I always have! |
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This thread just confirmed a lot of what I was already thinking. I'm pretty comfortable in my own skin so I hadn't worried much about labelling what I am, but it's nice to know there are so many other people out there who feel like I do.
Thanks for sharing everyone. |
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I think that if a man plays with a penis,
then he is definitely a latent homosexual; especially so, ...if it's his own penis. Sorry guys, but that is a medically proven FACT. |
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That would make women lesbians if they play with their own naughty bits.
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This was pretty funny because I know you are not serious.
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I would be very careful with what you presume to be serious and unserious coming from Jodie, lest her alter ego get you!
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#665
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That's the way it works. |
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I don't think there is an objective definition.
Some in this thread say that taking it in the shitter from a TS is gay, but technically simply looking at a large TS cock and getting aroused it by or simply admiring the aesthetics of it is gay, since it's a male organ and in some way representative of gayness. IMO it's silly to say that some acts are more gay than others, it's our Western pop culture that links anal sex to homosexuality. That said, I think liking TS' is a shade of grey. Most who do simply like the mixture of a cock and a female body shape/figure, so it's not exclusively gay or straight. |
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I think T-Girls will only get more and more popular as time goes on. They're just too hot and have way much more sex appeal than biological women. In the near future they're going to be a lot of women complaining that their man left them for a T-girl. Or that they found T-girl porn on their computer. Times are changing.
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In simple terms, more people are likely to call a woman with a penis derogatory names rather than a woman. Society doesn't just allow transwomen to be part of the "Crowd", even though they want to be (And Should). |
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2. You write of transwomen: "... they're not born women." That is ungendering. They ARE women who happen to be born in the wrong body. While I don't think you mean it offensively, it is offensive. Read here: http://forum.transladyboy.com/showthread.php?t=7311 |
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I appreciate the respect emoticon, but I must ask for clarification. You disagree with self-determination of one's identity? Or do I misunderstand you? Because if you do disagree with self-determination, I wonder whether you are prepared to tell any of our transmembers who say they are women that you know better.
And that's been my point all along ... |
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Also, I do think most transsexuals want to be "part of the crowd". Being "different" in this society is dangerous as Transjen and other transsexuals can testify. Many transsexuals even the hot shemales ultimately want a vagina and are willing to pay a lot of money for it. For me shemale porn is a fantasy far from reality.
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"Man's capacity for justice makes democracy possible; but man's inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary." R.N. Last edited by randolph; 05-02-2011 at 06:26 PM. |
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nice to know im not alone....i consider myself straight and am very masculine but there is something about a beautiful shemale that turns me on very much.my friends would never understand and i have no one to talk to about it
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Here we go agian trying to put everyone in groups while looking at everyone in black and white
I think this whole problem starts with boys at an early age because if you ask most boys around seven they all think the male gender is the top of the ladder and the female gender is a rung below the male and this thinking stays with em So when they see another male who becomes female they are shocked and really can't accept it and so appauled are they that they put us under the natal females and some even class us as other giving all these BS reasons why we are not male or female And even so called educated people like Doctors and lawyers judges have this belief So in the outside world i do my best to be just one of the girls which is all i ever wanted to be to start with Jerseygirl Jen |
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Perhaps this video will help you decide if you are gay for liking shemales.
http://www.vimeo.com/4158349 Be sure to watch "How to seduce a Tgirl" on the same site!
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"Man's capacity for justice makes democracy possible; but man's inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary." R.N. Last edited by dauls; 07-23-2011 at 04:50 AM. |
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If liking Riftgirl, who does this video, means I'm gay, then I embrace that label. Because I just don't give a flying fuck about labels. Wonderful! Should be required viewing for all "admirers." Last edited by dauls; 07-23-2011 at 04:50 AM. Reason: merge posts |
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I've come in on this late but for my two pennies worth my personal outlook is if I see someone I find attractive then I find them attractive and that's it, I don't need to pigeon hole, categorise or label them, and up to now straight looking guys are the only thing that hasn't rocked my boat.
------ merged posts -------- Ah shit! Just realised I labelled a group in my last post, didn't mean to be hypocritical I just didn't know how else to put it. I find different people attractive for different reasons if that makes sense? Women for long term relationships, lb's etc for fun and tv's for fantasies when I should be working, no its not general knowledge but neither am I ashamed. Last edited by dauls; 07-23-2011 at 05:11 AM. Reason: merge posts |
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Some thing to think about
Now a lot of Tgirls are called chicks with dicks and just think about it chicks with dicks the name implies a girl with a dick now they are not called guys with tits and the reason is guys with tits implies a guy with tits and if that is what you like then you may be gay
Jerseygirl Jen |
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no
no they are girls
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Though I can't imagine tranny chasers being absolutely gay, many do exhibit
latent homosexual tendencies inasmuch as they harbour a deep attraction to the masculine as much as (or more than) the feminine far side of the tranny spectrum in terms of both preferred behavioural and appearance tranny proclivities. In other words, these men are the types that like crossdressers the best, crave cocksucking, as well as have a fixation with tranny-on-male sex, opting not to take a dominant male role. Thankfully, I'm not one of these men. |
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If you are attracted to transwomen, ie women with cocks, were you to further develop a desire to pleasure such women orally (such is the case with me) you are no more gay than you were when you realized you were attracted to transwomen. |
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There are plenty of guys out there who like it when a woman is in charge, and some even fantasize about girls using strap-ons on them. There are similarities between a girl using a strap-on to pleasure her man and a girl with the real thing pleasuring her man. Their are many different opinions about this kind of sex, some may say it's gay or whatever. Personally, it turns me on so I don't give a crap what anyone says. |
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Hi, one of my first posts here. I am in a relationship with lovely Tgirl an this reading of so many posts on this subject has helped me out so much. We have been together on an off for a year now but the last three months, I have been living with her.
The hardest part for me was thinking I was gay an that my family will freak out. I am not a bottom an sex for me is only a small part of the equation. I just really like my girl an we have such good fun together here in Thailand. I do not like guys that are buffed an a set of hairy legs an arse, well makes me not turned on at all. I like sucking only because it pleases her but I can make her come very easy via normal sex. First time that happened I was amazed that it can happen! So am I gay or what? I loved pussy for the last 25 years but now I cannot get hard with a woman. So, gay or whatever you want to call us all, I can never recall being looked after so well, having a person who has a caring ear an most of all, a girly nature more so then the average woman, yet the understanding of that of your best mate. What else can I/we ask for. The girl I am with at the moment, I think of her totally as a woman. It is very hard what I am trying to say but I really hope you can understand what I mean. Best friend, lover an a lovely lady. I wish I could explain better what I feel but those whom have or are in a relationship, will understand what I mean. I do not want to be at anyway or form, disrespectful to anyone on this forum. Last edited by dauls; 07-23-2011 at 04:56 AM. Reason: merge posts |
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"Does liking shemales make you gay? "
This is a question that comes to my mind a lot. A know that the majority of society would answer, "Yes", which I think is ridiculous. I am attracted to feminine physical features (curvy body, sexy hips, bosom, etc), and I could look a the female form (and frequently do) all day long and never grow tired. I also enjoy all manner of erotic forms of female likes, like robot women, alien women, sexy demonic women with wings and red skin, blue-skinned women with horns on their heads and hooves for feat, etc. To me, shemales are a form of "exotic" fantasy women, that just happen to real! Also, when I think about making love with a woman, I want the whole package; eyes, lips, arms, hands, hair, eyes, legs, feet, butt, back, eyes (I really like eyes) and the genitalia is just a small part of the whole package. To me, the genitals are just part of the love-making process, so whether my partner has a vagina or penis does not really matter to me. Most of society would just focus on the genitals and claim that, if you want to make love to a partner with a penis, then you are gay (from a male point of view), regardless of what the rest of them look like. This means that if a man were to make love with a woman that, other than her genitals, looked like a guy, that would still be heterosexual? I would rather have the opposite. |
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I love dicks, dicks are the greatest thing in the world, especially if they're on a cute boy or a gorgeous shemale.
Question, what would someone call me? I consider myself a homosexual, but I adore girly femmy sissy boys especially, and of course I consider shemales to be utterly gorgeous and desirable. With a few exceptions, I am not all that interested at all in regular men or masculinity, although I know for sure that I could never date a ciswoman, pussy turns me off faster than anything else (to those with pussies, please don't think I'm trying to devalue you! I simply would only be interested in a platonic relationship with someone with a vagina). I almost find it funny that of all the things that turn me off, it's the vagina of a fellow human being, rather than all the other stuff which my kinks involve. Anyways... I will be completely honest, it disappoints me that there aren't more gay guys within the sphere of transfans. I certainly know I'm not straight, and at my most heterosexual, I'd be called probably homoflexible, but even that goes a bit far. I'm not surprised or upset that most transfans consider themselves straight, more that there's the idea that shemales are a straight venture, which isn't always the case. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they automatically slobber over every guy in sight, and it doesn't necessarily mean that they even always like masculinity. For me, it's because I love boys, plain and simple. I like them soft, I like them shy, I like them feminine, but I also like them, in the end, as far as their actual parts go, male. Can I still be considered a transfan? Surely I can't be the only self-identified gay guy on here? Last edited by E24th; 05-25-2011 at 05:37 PM. |
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Oddly enough, the label you give yourself seems to matter enough that you would leave if there aren't others who similarly label themselves. That seems, to be perfectly frank, rather ridiculous. Just be yourself and enjoy the site. |
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Especially? There are other possibilities?! Whole new sexual arenas?
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I simply wish I saw others thinking the same, yet also being able to appreciate things like soft-featured boys and submissive, cute, non-masculine males in general. Certainly I can't demand that others do, and I get that most on here aren't gay. I simply mean soft, feminine guys as opposed to, for example, bears, or even more masculine men in general. Last edited by dauls; 07-23-2011 at 05:05 AM. |
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I'm over that now for the most part, the labelling. I'll label myself "queer" at times though. But I left the label bisexual and it was no big deal and at some point I realized I was less interested in men than I was in cock and I had always been aware about my very strong preference for women. And one day I bumped into transporn. Quote:
O but to have a feminine boy! I'd chain him to the bed. Last edited by dauls; 07-23-2011 at 05:06 AM. |
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Ahhhh. I understand, I totally see how shemales would be attractive towards heterosexuals more than homosexuals. I understand, too, that the femininity I love in shemales and crossdressers would, to some people, qualify me as bisexual. I simply know that I am not.
Really, I just wish I knew other guys with the same desires who self-identified the same way, if only because that part of my identity is so strong. I've been told that I "act straight," which, though it is a despicable term, basically tends to mean that I don't have the stereotypical features of a homosexual. I'm not "limp-wristed," I'm not "prancing," I'm not a drama queen, none of that (I have yet to see more than maybe three people in my entire life who fit that gay stereotype). But I am gay. I just... love really girly guys. I mean guys in general, but softer guys especially, they're all I think about sometimes... |
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How are transwomen attractive to homosexuals? And you did not explain what you meant that you see how transwomen are more attractive to heterosexuals than homosexuals. |
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I actually say that transwomen would be more attractive to heterosexuals based mostly on experience, and from that I've learned that yes, indeed it is the gender, not necessarily the sex, which can be the attracting factor. |
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