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YES | 13 | 41.94% | |
NOT SURE | 0 | 0% | |
NO | 18 | 58.06% | |
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A recent non-partisan poll (the 2000) was taken of only hardcore 'pubs. I suppose that means Conse 'Pubs & Neo-Cons. 39% of them want Obama impeached? That's 4 out of 10 of well-known posters here. An addition 29% (68%) say they aren't sure he should be impeached. Okay, 'Pubs. Impeach him, not sure or don't impeach? Let's see who'll speak up; who'll stay silent!! |
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If Clinton can be impeached for lying about a blowjob, BO can be impeached for putting the country in irreversible insolvency and therefore threatening national security.
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Don't either of you have anything better to do with your time?
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Although I'm not a 'Pub, I voted "no".
Let him continue to make an ass of himself so that when the next elections come, no one votes for him or anyone who is preaching "hope" and "change".
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Isn't it obvious smc?
We are the elite. We are post count whores.
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Aa Ha, so that's how its done. Be careful, if a penis gets too big it can turn into a prick.
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Not quite. You, Bionca and Ila have the biggest penises here according to the post. I an a couple hundred posts away from having a summer sausage...
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*More posts than Bionca* [QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. Last edited by The Conquistador; 02-03-2010 at 02:08 PM. |
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Well, I guess you guys are going to have to work harder to get ahead.
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I'll just go the old fashioned route and strap a weight to it to increase my dong size. It's not cheating; it's fast-tracking!
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yup,
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There are such better ways to encourage growth than through posting. For instance, you could follow my lead and scour the Freebies forum to encourage some in-pants growth.
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So you are saying I should opt for a "weights-free" method...?
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Your attached thumbnail is the best that I've ever seen. I had a really good laugh. (I tried to rep you for it, but I have to spread some around first.)
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I gave him some for both of us.
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Who says I don't do that?
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I have no doubt you do. I was just sayin' ... |
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And to answer the original post. I say no. I am center right. Republicans cried about the way liberals treated Bush. Two wrongs don't make a right. If you don't agree with the President that is fine but we should at least have respect for the office. |
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You can't take down the president over a blowjob. This wasn't about Clinton lying under oath. It was the republicans trying to tarnish Clinton for policies they didn't like. So rather than attacking Clinton's policies they go for the cheap shot of impeaching him for lying about a blowjob. I think they knew they weren't going to actually get him out of office over this, so the whole thing was a useless distraction when the country had more important things to worry about. The best way to handle it wasn't out in the open. It should have been taken care of maturely and out of the public eye. Clinton knew he was caught, the republicans knew they had this over him. Meet in private and reach a deal and let it blow over.
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OF the current debt 10 trillion was under republican presidents(reagan,bush,bush)
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Well almost. Depends on if you want to ignore inflation or not. Regardless, in his first month, BO racked up 2.5 times as much debt as Bush did in 8 years. You ain't seen nothin yet sister.
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National debt
Perhaps a more realistic view of the national debt.
It is important to note that the climb in the debt in the Bush Reagan years had a lot to to with the necessity of importing oil. during the 1970s we could no longer supply our oil demand from domestic sources. In the future, it will be extremely difficult to have a balanced budget due to the energy deficit.
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"Man's capacity for justice makes democracy possible; but man's inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary." R.N. Last edited by randolph; 02-10-2010 at 09:49 PM. |
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Get ready for cherry-picking Tracy. TAL |
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Looks like BO had his lackey, Charles Bolden - administrator for Nasa, violate the law. Bolden was directed to shut down the Constellation moon program in spite of the fact that law was written that specifically forbids doing just that without congressional approval. Congress has not voted on this yet, and in fact two previous congresses (both democratic and republican run) voted in support of it. Therefore Consolidated Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year (FY)10 has been violated. Congress has sent a strong rebuke to both Bolden and Obama to cease and desist the dismantling of the moon program. Commercial companies like Lockheed, Boeing, and United Space Alliance, which somehow didn't meet BO's wishes for a commercial space company to build the rockets, will probably start suing the government now.
Again, worse than lying about a blowjob, so yeah, impeach him.
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Anyway, Obama's cutting back on programs that provide jobs for highly trained people is nuts with the economy the way it is. What is he thinking? With millions out of work he wants to cut back government jobs? Impeach? Are you serious? You want Joe Biden to be President?
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TRACY: Do you think Bush 43 should have been impeached? TAL |
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Now if we went beyond the plant-the-flag mission of Apollo, like Constellation is designed to do, we will develop new technologies along the way, but also have access to Helium-3, which can produce the power needs of the country. We'll also have access to water, metals and other raw materials that can be easily brought to earth. People will have to work along with robots to make use of those materials. Quote:
Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2IQVZmHnJQ Well I'm just comparing BO's crimes against Clinton lying about a blowjob for which Clinton was impeached. And the charges are mounting. Biden wouldn't be so bad. He couldn't possibly be as far left as BO. For what? If you're talking about the Iraq WMD thing, there was an investigation and he was cleared. People that try and blame that whole Iraqi WMD thing on Bush and Bush alone have a very short memory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8
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TRACY: You cannot think of ONE thing Bush 43 did? I have 118 questionable acts, and 30 impeachable ones? Torture is a war crime when committed in WWII, and waterboarding was the crime. Starting a war deliberately. Bush 43 broke the FISA law with wiretapping, and this NASA thing is OUTRAGEOUS? If you can impeach and convict Clinton & Obama, but not Bush 43 you are blinded by party loyalty and ideology. Are you also for a coup to throw out leaders you disagree with? If everyone had a narrow view like yours, we would be better off with a one-party system. TAL |
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The only thing you could impeach Bush for was playing video games five hours a day.
The Republicans are only in charge of one third of Congress, they can't do anything but whine and accuse. They're not even very good at that. Obama has been in smoke filled back rooms all year, reversing the machinery that sank our Nation. The stuff you hear about on Fox News has nothing to do with what he's doing. He's not on the phone with Ayres and ACORN every day, trust me on that. My Aunt was in NASA, my brother has autographed pictures from the original seven Astronauts and I think a Moon Flag. I think you're going to find that Obama wants to pare down A WHOLE LOT on space exploration, and the MILITARY in Large, at least the real expensive stuff anyway. $15,000 doesn't mean alot to someone who makes 265K/yr, but it means a WHOLE lot to a guy that makes 15K/yr. I doubt Bush knew many guys who made 15K/yr. Except for Photo Ops. |
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Not just the Nasa thing, but BO's entire time in office is outrageous. But the Nasa thing is certainly more of a concern than lying about a blowjob. Quote:
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Can you elaborate about my narrow view? I stick up for some things Bush does, but not all. I stick up for Clinton, and constantly bash BO. But you just see it as me blindly supporting republicans and trashing democrats. Who has the narrow view?
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Wow! This is great news. So he has repealed the Community Reinvestment Act? Damn... I missed that. He's not such a bad guy after all.
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TRACY: The FISA law was put into effect because of Nixon's misuse of power; the FISA law you're talking about was put into effect to protect Bush's violations AFTER THE FACT. It's a bogus law, like John Yoo's legal mumbo-jumbo that legalized waterboarding AFTER THE FACT, which America has prosecuted as a violation of The Geneva Convention. Bush violated that law too. AFTER THE FACT also applies to wiretapping violations to protect Bush and phone companies. If Obama did that, Conse 'Pubs would push for WAR CRIMES to win the election of '08. The point is that laws and treaties cannot be violated or respected based on the situation. There are ways to legally do what Bush wanted, but he didn't want a 95% chance of getting it the right way--or having someone else besides him having final say, like The SC. That's what a DICTATOR does, dude. Waterboarding is torture if done against us, but not when we do it, right? We're all good guys, and they are all worst of the worst, right. NO EXCEPTIONS!! Bush violated the FISA laws that were in effect from before RR, and violated The Geneva Convention. It's rule of law, and not rule of law that can be changed on the fly for Conse 'Pubs ONLY!! That's NARROW!! TAL |
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I said TORTURE, which is NOT permitted, dude. Torture is waterboarding, and that is NOT permitted under any circumstances. No rights doesn't mean you can do anything you want up to and including death. TAL Last edited by Talvenada; 02-14-2010 at 05:54 PM. |
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I'm not sure what President Dwight David Eisenhower would have made of Obama, but he would have busted Bush and Cheney down to buck privates in about 2 weeks. It wasn't til Nixon that you had a President you couldn't trust. We came out of WWII smelling like a rose, American products were the best back then. Even Germany and Japan respected us. Things sure have changed.
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The "no torture" only applies to those who are identified under The Geneva Convention. And waterboarding is not torture.
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So, we can do anything we want to them, including kill them? Are there any things we cannot do? TAL |
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The US has prosecuted water torture as war crime many times in history, what should Waterboarding exclude from this? In the case Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006), the Supreme Court of the United States decides that prisoners of terror can?t be treated as Unlawful Combatant. So they fall under the Laws of War or Public International Law, and forbid torture. It is not right to punish someone who infracted the law (terrorism) with lawless methods. That is an antinomy itself. |
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How do you go from waterboarding is ok to killing them is ok? Are you not able to grasp varying degrees of concepts or can you only handle black and white?
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Do the words out of context mean anything to you? It was an ongoing conversation, which if you followed it, you would see that it wasn't a leap. Of course, you're a Conse 'Pub, which means find something to attack only, and this sentence cannot be taken out of context. TAL |
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Or worse. Nancy Pelosi!
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Comparing waterboarding to what they do is like comparing a pea shooter to a 155mm howitzer. Is this method uncomfortable? Yes. Does simulated drowning physically or mentally debilitate someone compared to beatings or other barbaristic actions? No. I think people fail to recognize that the people who get waterboarded are not your average, run-of-the-mill citizen who has been mistakenly detained. They are die-hard fanatics who would kill innocent people in a heartbeat and with a smile on their face. When you have commandos abduct you in the middle of the night, chances are high that you did something to deserve it.
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Some more Middle East torture methods...
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One torture destroys you physical and possibly to death, the other destroys you mental, and you could also die directly by extreme mental torture. As far as I know physical injuries heal faster and better or are better to live with than mental injuries. Often physical tortures causes mental injuries too, but that don?t make them worse in general. Quote:
I don?t say they are innocent, but they never had a conviction, and the most of them are not the suicide-bomber who killed people. It was never proven in with degrade they are involved. i.e. is someone who cooked the meal in a terror camp as guilty as the organizer of a terror act? |
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That Conse 'Pub radio talker on WLS in Chicago and a friend of Sean Hannity tried waterboarding on the air, while he was filmed. He felt it would be like splashing water on his face, and 60 seconds would be EASY to attain. He lasted SEVEN SECONDS, and told a dismissive Hannity it was TORTURE. The water goes down your nose and throat, causes a near blackout condition, and begins a mental breakdown. That's after SEVEN SECONDS. But even a Conse 'Pub saying it makes him a traitor at worst, and makeshim a RINO at best. I know whose side is he on!! Or you want proof to savage!!! TAL Mancow Muller waterboarding update: Hey Sean Hannity, it's 'absolutely torture' By Craig Newman on May 27, 2009 12:24 PM | |
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Reread the definition of torture again; specifically the second line in the definition. The US doesn't allow torture. But there is nothing about uncomfortable interrogation techniques. Waterboarding does not leave any lasting physical or mental damage to a subject like Chinese Water Torture or beatings do. The people who work alongside known terrorist organizations are guilty by association. The people who are waterboarded are usually found planting IED's and EFP's along a roadside and will most likely have had interaction with a high value target.
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Do you honestly think that all those Gitmo detainees that complain of "torture" are somehow champions of humanity and liberty? No. They are just trying to abuse the system so that they can get back to their job of blowing up people or gunning them down. A "mental breakdown"? Haha! More like "low discomfort threshold". Was there any lasting damage resulting from that?
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*More posts than Bionca* [QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
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