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shadows
07-28-2010, 11:17 PM
Hmmmmm. I seem to recall something about a hat?;)
transjen
07-30-2010, 10:09 PM
After watching todays Phillies Nats game all i can say is i want a refund on Roy Oswalt as it's apparent he's a defective pitcher
:( Philliefan Jen
shadows
08-03-2010, 02:54 AM
BOOOM! The Toronto Blue Jays tied an American League record by hitting 6 doubles in an inning. And the icing on the cake is that they did it while playing the New York Yankees.
Toronto won 8-6 and A-Roid went 0-5.:)
transjen
08-04-2010, 01:02 AM
BOOOM! The Toronto Blue Jays tied an American League record by hitting 6 doubles in an inning. And the icing on the cake is that they did it while playing the New York Yankees.
Toronto won 8-6 and A-Roid went 0-5.:)What no love for A Rod? come on give him some love he is kinda cute you know
:yes:Jerseygirl Jen
shadows
08-04-2010, 01:52 AM
What no love for A Rod? come on give him some love he is kinda cute you know
:yes:Jerseygirl Jen
Sorry Jen. I don't find him cute.:p:lol:
Toronto crushed the Yankees again, this time 8-2. A-Roid was 0-3.
The Yankees are no longer in first place. Good times.:yes:
With September call-ups (a stupid MLB rule) less than a month away, and real races in all but one of the six combine AL and NL divisions, it seems like a good time to write a brief assessment of where things stand and, I hope, provoke some discussion in this rather moribund thread. These notes are, of course, one man's opinion; I profess no more or less baseball knowledge than the other regulars in the thread. The only advantage I bring to the discussion is my ability to recognize that baseball is the greatest sport humans have ever invented, something my Canadian friends seem to think is a description of another very great game sport that involves sticks, pucks, and ice. ;) (There ... that ought to provoke discussion if the rest of this post fails.)
Remember, this is just opinion.
National League
Once again, the National League is giving us tremendously competitive divisional pennant races, just like last year, when the Wild Card was up for grabs down to the wire. It's also been fun to watch Joey Votto of the Reds chase the Triple Crown, although I think his RBI production has fallen off to the point where that chase is all but over. There is still time for Albert Pujols to boost his average and perhaps win the Triple Crown he so richly deserves, assuming Votto, Polanco, Gonzales and others drop a bit to help him out. The Triple Crown is, in my opinion, a symbol of the pre-steroids era, and it would be good for baseball for someone to win it again; it hasn't been done since 1967, when Carl Yastrzemski followed Frank Robinson from the previous season to make it two seasons in a row.
In the divisions, I think the East will go to Atlanta. The Phillies are doing remarkably well without Howard, Utley, and Victorino, but I think they'll fade just enough to let Atlanta slip in. The Central is anyone's call. St. Louis has the better pitching, and Cincinnati has the better offense. I give a slight edge to the Reds. In the West, I look for the Giants to surge. It's a gut feeling, and could be based on nothing more than the fact that I've always liked their uniform colors. I think the Wild Card is likely to be a West division team, so if my San Francisco prediction is correct the Padres will be going to the post-season.
American League
In a perfect baseball world, there would be some kind of reconstruction of the American League so that the East division isn't the home of what are usually the three best teams. It is ridiculous that the Blue Jays are 5 games over .500 and in fourth place, but would be in second place in the West.
The AL also has a Triple Crown possibility: Miguel Cabrera of the Tigers. I think he has the best chance in the Majors.
In the divisions, the West appears to be a runaway for the Texas Rangers. I think Texas will be very strong in the post-season, especially if the weather is unseasonably hot for their home games in Arlington. The Central is anyone's call. The Twins are formidable, and they have guys who can carry an entire team. Ozzie Guillen could always have some kind of meltdown that sows dissension in his clubhouse and screws the White Sox and their chances to win.
Being a Red Sox fan, I must reserve my most detailed assessment for the East. I want to be realistic. The Red Sox have taken a tremendous hit this season from all the injuries. Losing Kevin Youkilis for the season is a devastating blow. And yet, the Sox are one of baseball's most resilient teams, in part because Francona really knows how to manage a team as a team, and in part because of the strength of the minor league teams from which the Sox can bring up replacements. That said, I think this weekend's series with the Yankees is make-or-break (assuming that the Yankees and Rays don't implode on their own). The Sox victory last night was important, and the pitching matchups favor Boston on Sunday and Monday. If the Sox split the series, they are still in the running until the next big challenge. If the Sox take 3 of 4, that would be great. If the Sox sweep, the Yankees are toast.
The Rays are cruising along, and I see no reason to doubt that they will be in the thick of it up to the end. Most likely, they'll win the division. The Yankees' loss of Andy Pettite until late August, at best, is a huge blow. I don't think they've realized it yet. I also think the Yankees are in line for an injury to another key player; I'm not wishing for it, but it seems that when you have so many veterans, you ought to expect that to happen.
The Wild Card will come down to the Yankees, White Sox/Twins, and the Red Sox (the latter if they do well this weekend and keep up.
Recap
So, to recap, here's what I think things will look like at the end, based on an assessment today, August 7, 2010, at 10:20 am EST.
American League: East winner: Tampa Bay; Central winner: Minnesota; West winner: Texas; Wild Card winner: Boston.
National League: East winner: Atlanta; Central winner: Cincinnati; West winner: San Francisco; Wild Card winner: San Diego.
.......The only advantage I bring to the discussion is my ability to recognize that baseball is the greatest sport humans have ever invented, something my Canadian friends seem to think is a description of another very great game sport that involves sticks, pucks, and ice. ;) (There ... that ought to provoke discussion if the rest of this post fails.).......
That's right, smc. Hockey is the greatest sport ever invented.
That's right, smc. Hockey is the greatest sport ever invented.
Like shooting fish in a barrel, my friend. ;)
Like shooting fish in a barrel, my friend. ;)
No, hockey is nothing like shooting fish in a barrel. ;):lol::lol::innocent:
No, hockey is nothing like shooting fish in a barrel. ;):lol::lol::innocent:
Touch?. I should have stipulated the antecedent, which was -- of course -- provoking a response from you or shadows.
Come to think of it, though, hockey is sometimes like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm thinking of the Philadelphia Flyers. :yes:
.....Come to think of it, though, hockey is sometimes like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm thinking of the Philadelphia Flyers. :yes:
You could be right if want to refer the Flyers as steelheads.
(Note: Jen this is not a dergatory remark to the Flyers. There really is a fish called a steelhead. It's a salmon and lake trout hybrid.)
You could be right if want to refer the Flyers as steelheads.
(Note: Jen this is not a dergatory remark to the Flyers. There really is a fish called a steelhead. It's a salmon and lake trout hybrid.)
My reference to the Flyers actually had them as the ones shooting, not as the fish. In other words, taking easy targets -- like hitting someone with a high stick when he's not looking.
I'd rather eat my steelhead.
shadows
08-11-2010, 11:20 PM
This is pissing me off!
Toronto takes 2 out of 3 games against the Yankees.
Toronto sweeps Tampa Bay.
Toronto decides to forget how to play freaking baseball against the Red Sox during the first two games in their series(a 7-5 and 10-1 loss for Toronto).
They are 2-9 against Boston, which is mind-boggling. I think at this point, it has gotten into their heads and a lot of their mistakes are mental ones. Boston is a good team, but Toronto should be playing better against them.
And of course Texas decided that since they didn't cough up the win yesterday, they would do so today. They lost 7-6 to the Yankees by giving up 2 runs in the top of the ninth. Dang it!
And of course Texas decided that since they didn't cough up the win yesterday, they would do so today. They lost 7-6 to the Yankees by giving up 2 runs in the top of the ninth. Dang it!
You forgot to mention that the Rangers failed to score in the ninth after a leadoff triple!
My beloved Red Sox have most certainly felt the sting of having 17 players on the disabled list this season, including key members of the team like Josh Beckett, Jacoby Ellsbury, Victor Martinez, and Kevin Youkilis, among others. Tonight, seven weeks after fouling a ball of his foot and breaking his foot, Dustin Pedroia returns to the lineup. I believe that the entire season for the Sox from here to the AL Wild Card hinges on Pedey. He is the sparkplug of this team. He is the best defensive 2nd baseman in baseball, a former Rookie of the Year and Most Valuable Player, and indispensable. If he is healthy, the Sox still have a chance. He is a diminutive guy, but he can carry the entire team on his back. Time will tell.
I'm going to tomorrow's game at Fenway, and can't wait to see Pedey back in the lineup!
shadows
08-18-2010, 12:16 AM
So Morrow decides to suck a lemon the start after pitching a complete game 1-hitter?
*sigh*
Toronto as a whole sucked large tonight, and ended up losing 6-2 to Oakland.:censored:
On August 7, I posted my predictions for the six Major League divisions. Now, 5 weeks later, and with the regular season quickly drawing to a close, it's time to face the music and see where things stand. Of course, things can and will still change in some divisions.
Here's what I predicted then. Let's start with the National League:
National League: East winner: Atlanta; Central winner: Cincinnati; West winner: San Francisco; Wild Card winner: San Diego.
Here are where things stand as of this writing, mid-afternoon on September 15. The Braves continue their skid, having lost this afternoon to the lowly Capitals. That means that Philadelphia is now 2-1/2 games ahead in the East. Meanwhile, the Giants are behind the Braves in the Wild Card Race, but only by 1 game, with San Diego having taken the lead in the West by 1-1-/2 games (and is tied with the Rockies in the 3rd inning of today's game, as I write). The Central Division is shaping up exactly as I predicted, and the Reds have a comfortable 7-game lead.
My revised predictions for the National League: East winner: Philadelphia (a change); Central winner: Cincinnati (unchanged); West winner: San Diego; Wild Card winner: San Francisco.
Hence, the only change in the list of four teams making it to the playoffs is to replace the Braves with the Phillies. If I am correct, I suspect Transjen will be pleased.
Here's what I predicted for the American League back on August 7:
American League: East winner: Tampa Bay; Central winner: Minnesota; West winner: Texas; Wild Card winner: Boston.
My prediction that Boston would take the Wild Card was predicated on two things. One was that the Yankees would have to have at least one period of extended under-.500 ball, since they had not to that date. Prior to last night's game, the Yankees had lost four in a row, the longest losing streak of the season for the Bronx Bombers. That came to an end in 10 innings last night. The other thing was a return to relative health for the Red Sox. Dustin Pedroia, so crucial to the Red Sox lineup, did return, only to go back on the disabled list after a couple of games. No team can endure the kinds of injuries the Sox have grappled with this season and play consisitently great ball, and yet the Sox stand at 17 games over .500. The Sox have used well more than 100 outfield lineups this season in 125 games -- just one example of the team's challenges.
I have to admit that the Sox playoff hopes are essentially non-existent. However, there is one hope: the Rays and the Yankees play each other several more times. If one of those two teams can win all the rest of the games, thus dropping the other team down in the standings consistently, and the Red Sox can play .750 ball between now and the end of the month, the Sox will sneak in. I will not make that prediction, however.
In the Central and West divisions, my predictions hold firm. Minnesota is 7 games ahead of the White Sox, and Texas is 9 games ahead of Oakland. As is always the case in the American League, the Wild Card will come from the East. Here are my revised predictions:
American League: East winner: Tampa Bay (unchanged); Central winner: Minnesota (unchanged); West winner: Texas (unchanged); Wild Card winner: New York (a change).
It won't be long before we can wrap up this baseball season and turn to hockey! Go Bruins! You have an epic choke to erase from our minds!
transjen
09-15-2010, 03:26 PM
The 2010 World Series will be Phillies vs Rangers :yes:
With the Phillies winning in 7
:yes: Philliefan Jen
transjen
09-18-2010, 04:57 PM
My vote for the Hall of Fame class of 2011
:yes: Philliefan Jen
My vote for the Hall of Fame class of 2011
:yes: Philliefan Jen
That's just mean, Jen. Not what I would expect from you. :no:
transjen
09-19-2010, 12:27 AM
That's just mean, Jen. Not what I would expect from you. :no:
Why is that mean? he was a key member of the Yankees for a long time and everyone loves good old Bucky he's a lot like Ron Santo two overlooked players who should be in the hall along with
:yes:Philliefan Jen
dauls
09-19-2010, 03:45 AM
Why is that mean? he was a key member of the Yankees for a long time and everyone loves good old Bucky he's a lot like Ron Santo two overlooked players who should be in the hall along with
:yes:Philliefan Jen
Jen, unless you were being :rolleyes:
smc - baseball - Red Sox - blown 14.5 game lead - 1978 AL East tie-breaker game - Bucky Dent - 3-run homer - Damn Yankees win - smc very, very sad
Why is that mean? he was a key member of the Yankees for a long time and everyone loves good old Bucky he's a lot like Ron Santo two overlooked players who should be in the hall along with
:yes:Philliefan Jen
C'mon, Jen, you are enough of a baseball fan to know that Bucky Dent doesn't have anywhere near the statistics that make one even considered for the Hall of Fame, let alone inducted (even given the benefit of the doubt as a non-steroid user). And since I know you know he doesn't make the cut, I assumed this was a dig (perhaps unintentional) at my being a Red Sox fan and my most recent (posts). I apologize if I jumped to the wrong conclusion. In any case, Bucky Dent in any Hall of Fame other than a New York Yankees one (and even that would be only as a footnote for his Sox-crushing homer) is a non-starter.
dauls
09-20-2010, 10:02 AM
C'mon, Jen, you are enough of a baseball fan to know that Bucky Dent doesn't have anywhere near the statistics that make one even considered for the Hall of Fame, let alone inducted (even given the benefit of the doubt as a non-steroid user). And since I know you know he doesn't make the cut, I assumed this was a dig (perhaps unintentional) at my being a Red Sox fan and my most recent (posts). I apologize if I jumped to the wrong conclusion. In any case, Bucky Dent in any Hall of Fame other than a New York Yankees one (and even that would be only as a footnote for his Sox-crushing homer) is a non-starter.
In Boston, I assume you continue to use the moniker "Fucky 'Bucking' Dent" or something :censored: similar. ;)
Slappy4011
09-29-2010, 06:27 PM
The 2010 World Series will be Phillies vs Rangers :yes:
With the Phillies winning in 7
:yes: Philliefan Jen
I like what you think! Go Phillies!
shadows
10-02-2010, 09:25 PM
Boston has not played very good ball since they were officially eliminated(and losing that game in extras after getting the go-ahead runs from Mariano Rivera was frustrating)!
They had a chance to win Game #1 of the double-header today but a boneheaded error in the top of the 10th inning sealed Boston's fate.
While I am not a Boston fan like smc is, I feel I can safely say that Paplebon has blown way too many games this season(here's a scary fact, Kevin Gregg who is the closer for my beloved Blue Jays, has a better ERA than Paplebon!).
Philly has all the momentum. I think they are going to win it all. I think the Yankees are going out in the first round, regardless of whether they play the Twins or Rangers.
transjen
10-06-2010, 07:15 PM
Game one is in the books and it's time for the HAPPY DANCE as the Phillies beat the Reds
:yes: Philliefan Jen
dauls
10-06-2010, 08:59 PM
Game one is in the books and it's time for the HAPPY DANCE as the Phillies beat the Reds
:yes: Philliefan Jen
Great result and in the first postseason game of his career the Doc pitched his second no-hitter of the season. :cool:
transjen
10-06-2010, 09:13 PM
At this moment i'm more jazzed about the win then the fact it was only the second no hitter in post season history the other was Larson's perftect game in the world series
:respect: :yes: Philliefan Jen
Doc is amazing. I wish I could feel good about the Phillies winning, but I'm hoping for a Twins - Giants World Series.
I am happy for you to get to do the Happy Dance, though, Jen!
transjen
10-06-2010, 09:48 PM
Twins-Giants? have to ask why is there some history there that i'm unaware of? i like Kung-fu Panda
:yes:Philliefan Jen
Twins-Giants? have to ask why is there some history there that i'm unaware of? i like Kung-fu Panda
:yes:Philliefan Jen
Gee ... you're welcome ...
I have very good friends who are fans of those two teams, and especially for my SF friend it would be nice for his "season of torture" to end with a World Series bid for the Giants.
transjen
10-06-2010, 10:54 PM
Gee ... you're welcome ...
I have very good friends who are fans of those two teams, and especially for my SF friend it would be nice for his "season of torture" to end with a World Series bid for the Giants.Ah ok makes sense but as much as i like Kung-fu Panda i'll still rather see the Phillies vs Rangers but if the Giants get in then i'll be rooting for Kung-fu Panda
:yes:Panda loving Jen
transjen
10-08-2010, 09:27 PM
Phillies win 7-4 so HAPPY DANCE
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen
dauls
10-09-2010, 01:14 AM
After the Halladay inspired win in Game 1, the Reds' errors help the Phillies claim an ugly win in Game 2. :yes::)
dauls
10-10-2010, 11:00 PM
Phillies win Game 3 of NLDS to claim a first postseason series sweep in franchise history.
It's great to see we have the Cole Hamels of 2008 back on the mound this season.
Time to see Stan & Ollie again.
176580
transjen
10-10-2010, 11:31 PM
Phillies win Game 3 of NLDS to claim a first postseason series sweep in franchise history.
It's great to see we have the Cole Hamels of 2008 back on the mound this season.
Time to see Stan & Ollie again.
176580
I was just doing that dance
:yes:Philliefan Jen
transjen
10-12-2010, 10:41 PM
looks like i'm the last person who cares about the playoffs
Anywho it's the Rangers vs the Yankees
And the Phillies vs the Giants
My pick from before the playoffs still stand
Phillies vs Rangers and the Phillies win in 7
:yes: Philliefan Jen
looks like i'm the last person who cares about the playoffs
Not true. You're just the last fan we know of on the site who has her or his favorite team still standing.
lAnywho it's the Rangers vs the Yankees
And the Phillies vs the Giants
My pick from before the playoffs still stand
Phillies vs Rangers and the Phillies win in 7
:yes: Philliefan Jen
Hard to predict, but I'm going Giants vs. Rangers, and the Giants win in 6.
looks like i'm the last person who cares about the playoffs
Anywho it's the Rangers vs the Yankees
And the Phillies vs the Giants
My pick from before the playoffs still stand
Phillies vs Rangers and the Phillies win in 7
:yes: Philliefan Jen
I'm not disinterested, but I'm not following the playoffs as closely as I would if Boston or Toronto were advancing.
I hope to see the Rangers in the World Series and I'm indifferent as to which team from the NL makes it. It will be an interesting series if it's the Rangers and Phillies. I would cheer for the Rangers, but I'm afraid that they don't have a hope against the Phillies.
dauls
10-13-2010, 05:40 PM
looks like i'm the last person who cares about the playoffs
Anywho it's the Rangers vs the Yankees
And the Phillies vs the Giants
My pick from before the playoffs still stand
Phillies vs Rangers and the Phillies win in 7
:yes: Philliefan Jen
Not true. You're just the last fan we know of on the site who has her or his favorite team still standing.
Hard to predict, but I'm going Giants vs. Rangers, and the Giants win in 6.
:no: :no: :no:
I may live the wrong side of the pond, but I've been a Phillies fan for almost 20 years.
I suppose revenge over the damn Yankees for last season would be great. But I'd like to see us play Texas in the World Series: Phillies over Texas in 5 games.
:respect: the anti-Yankees sentiment.
I've always hated those damn Yankees :p, and what they did to my beloved Phillies in October didn't help the situation.:frown:
http://forum.transladyboy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=150732&d=1266026498
:no: :no: :no:
I may live the wrong side of the pond, but I've been a Phillies fan for almost 20 years.
I suppose revenge over the damn Yankees for last season would be great. But I'd like to see us play Texas in the World Series: Phillies over Texas in 5 games.
My most sincere apology for leaving you out, dauls. :blush:
If you want to admit publicly to being a Phillies fan, who am I to stand in your way? :eek:
And yes, you have made that clear on the site before. Mea culpa, mea culpa.
dauls
10-15-2010, 01:04 AM
If you want to admit publicly to being a Phillies fan, who am I to stand in your way? :eek:
Well we all do daft things.
Anyway, before 2004 you had plenty of reasons (85 to be precise ;)) to hide your allegiance to the Red Sox.
transjen
10-15-2010, 01:24 AM
Well we all do daft things.
Anyway, before 2004 you had plenty of reasons (85 to be precise ;)) to hide your allegiance to the Red Sox.
I dout he hid RedSox fans are a lot like Cubs fans very vocal and royal just like us Phillies fans
:yes: Philliefan Jen
Well we all do daft things.
Anyway, before 2004 you had plenty of reasons (85 to be precise ;)) to hide your allegiance to the Red Sox.
I dout he hid RedSox fans are a lot like Cubs fans very vocal and royal just like us Phillies fans
:yes: Philliefan Jen
Jen's right. I never hid being a Red Sox fan. Unlike Cubs fans (but, I will admit, like Phillies fans), most longtime Red Sox fans are first and foremost baseball fans, not fans of a city's cultural phenomenon that happens to be a baseball team.
dauls
10-15-2010, 12:09 PM
Jen's right. I never hid being a Red Sox fan. Unlike Cubs fans (but, I will admit, like Phillies fans), most longtime Red Sox fans are first and foremost baseball fans, not fans of a city's cultural phenomenon that happens to be a baseball team.
Your Red Sox loyalty, I never doubted it for a second.
shadows
10-15-2010, 09:46 PM
Through 7 innings, it is 5-1 Texas over New York. If Texas can win game #1, then I like their chances of taking out the Yankees. Honestly, besides Sabathia, the Yankees don't have spectacular starting pitching. Plus, they still get to face Cliff Lee in game #3!
I still can't believe that Minnesota rolled over like they did. They sucked!
shadows
10-15-2010, 10:05 PM
Well, looks like the Ranger's bullpen decided to suck eggs. They blew a 5-0 lead and now it's 5-5 and there still isn't anyone out in the Yankee 8th! Talk about falling apart!:rolleyes:
shadows
10-15-2010, 10:58 PM
It is now a final. The Texas bullpen was the downfall, and they lost 6-5. Pathetic.:censored:
It is now a final. The Texas bullpen was the downfall, and they lost 6-5. Pathetic.:censored:
Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe it. Jeez, I hate the :censored: Yankees!
By the way, is there a baseball broadcaster more asinine in the entire world than Craig Sager?
shadows
10-15-2010, 11:07 PM
Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe it. Jeez, I hate the :censored: Yankees!
By the way, is there a baseball broadcaster more asinine in the entire world than Craig Sager?
Was that a rhetorical question?;):lol:
I love the Yankee fans over at espn.com stating that since the Yankees won this game they are now going to sweep. Ummmm, Sabathia is their ace, and he gave up 5 runs. Plus, they will face Cliff Lee(who has been lights-out so far in the post-season) twice! I still think that Texas can pull out a series victory, but they need their bullpen to wake the :censored: up!
dauls
10-16-2010, 01:53 AM
Was that a rhetorical question?;):lol:
I love the Yankee fans over at espn.com stating that since the Yankees won this game they are now going to sweep. Ummmm, Sabathia is their ace, and he gave up 5 runs. Plus, they will face Cliff Lee(who has been lights-out so far in the post-season) twice! I still think that Texas can pull out a series victory, but they need their bullpen to wake the :censored: up!
Damn those :censored: Yankees. :frown:
Trouble is the Rangers could be 2-0 down in the series before Cliff Lee enters the fray in New York.
transjen
10-16-2010, 01:55 AM
Was that a rhetorical question?;):lol:
I love the Yankee fans over at espn.com stating that since the Yankees won this game they are now going to sweep. Ummmm, Sabathia is their ace, and he gave up 5 runs. Plus, they will face Cliff Lee(who has been lights-out so far in the post-season) twice! I still think that Texas can pull out a series victory, but they need their bullpen to wake the :censored: up!
Rule number one never pay attention to BOZO'S
:yes: Philliefan Jen
It's 5-0 Rangers again, this time after 3 innings. So, would Yogi Berra say "It's d?j? vu all over again" now, or wait until the Texas bullpens coughs up another loss?
(Not that I'm hoping for that. Go Texas! Beat my hated Yankees!)
transjen
10-16-2010, 05:09 PM
It's 5-0 Rangers again, this time after 3 innings. So, would Yogi Berra say "It's d?j? vu all over again" now, or wait until the Texas bullpens coughs up another loss?
(Not that I'm hoping for that. Go Texas! Beat my hated Yankees!)
Looks like the Rangers bullpen all learned to pitch from Jose Mesa :eek:
:rolleyes: Philliefan Jen
dauls
10-16-2010, 06:47 PM
Surely Texas can't blow their 7-2 lead in the top of the 9th.
transjen
10-16-2010, 07:20 PM
The Rangers tied the series one game apieace and have Lee pitching in game three so dare i hope the Rangers go up two games to one
:yes:Philliefan Jen
dauls
10-16-2010, 10:37 PM
Damn. Phillies lost Game 1 to the Giants by 4-3. :(
I wasn't expecting the Halladay-Lincecum match-up to yield 7 runs. I thought it'd be a lower scoring game.
transjen
10-16-2010, 11:17 PM
Damn. Phillies lost Game 1 to the Giants by 4-3. :(
I wasn't expecting the Halladay-Lincecum match-up to yield 7 runs. I thought it'd be a lower scoring game.
I only have one thing to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6GuEswXOXo
:frown: Philliefan Jen
k.sucks.you
10-17-2010, 05:13 AM
Viva Gigantes!
Damn. Phillies lost Game 1 to the Giants by 4-3. :(
HOORAY! The Giants won Game 1 over the Phillies, 4-3. :)
dauls
10-17-2010, 01:54 PM
HOORAY! The Giants won Game 1 over the Phillies, 4-3. :)
Damn you and your adopted postseason team. :p ;):lol:
And then the Bruins beat the Devils 4-1. :frown: It was a :( Saturday for me.
dauls
10-17-2010, 01:58 PM
I only have one thing to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6GuEswXOXo
:frown: Philliefan Jen
32x 177062 - that sums it up perfectly.
Damn you and your adopted postseason team. :p ;):lol:
You mean adopted postseason TEAMS (note the plural). I'm rooting for the Rangers, too.
The Yankees and the Phillies are the two teams I most despise in Major League Baseball. Sorry, my friends. I do like and respect at least two Phillies fans, though: Jen and dauls. Other than that, as I've noted before, even from the perspective of this Red Sox fan it seems to me that Phillies fans make Yankees fans look like Royals fans. (Think about that ...) :lol:
dauls
10-17-2010, 02:44 PM
You mean adopted postseason TEAMS (note the plural). I'm rooting for the Rangers, too.
The Yankees and the Phillies are the two teams I most despise in Major League Baseball. Sorry, my friends. I do like and respect at least two Phillies fans, though: Jen and dauls. Other than that, as I've noted before, even from the perspective of this Red Sox fan it seems to me that Phillies fans make Yankees fans look like Royals fans. (Think about that ...) :lol:
I (currently) have no problems with your other adopted team, I'm happy they beat those damn Yankees.
177065
transjen
10-17-2010, 10:29 PM
Game two is now in the books and for those blacked out by FOX it was Phillies 6 Giants 1
So it's one game apoece and i'm doing the Curly shuffle
:yes: Philliefan Jen
dauls
10-17-2010, 10:46 PM
Game two is now in the books and for those blacked out by FOX it was Phillies 6 Giants 1
So it's one game apoece and i'm doing the Curly shuffle
:yes: Philliefan Jen
HOORAY! :) That's a fantastic win.
Great pitching (and hitting, and running) by Oswalt. :yes:
shadows
10-17-2010, 10:53 PM
You mean adopted postseason TEAMS (note the plural). I'm rooting for the Rangers, too.
The Yankees and the Phillies are the two teams I most despise in Major League Baseball. Sorry, my friends. I do like and respect at least two Phillies fans, though: Jen and dauls. Other than that, as I've noted before, even from the perspective of this Red Sox fan it seems to me that Phillies fans make Yankees fans look like Royals fans. (Think about that ...) :lol:
Smc, you are going to have to add me to the list of Phillies fans here(and that is due to the fact that Roy Halladay is on the team, and I would like him to win a World Series ring).
I am hopeful for a Texas/Philly final, with the Phillies winning. Of course, as long as the Yankees don't win, I'll be a happy camper.;)
transjen
10-17-2010, 10:53 PM
Oswalt pitched a good game with just that one bad pitch to Cody Ross
and for those who don't know the Curly Shuffle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuTzsi6WT6Q
:yes: Philliefan Jen
shadows
10-17-2010, 10:54 PM
Oswalt pitched a good game with just that one bad pitch to Cody Ross
and for those who don't know the Curly Shuffle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuTzsi6WT6Q
:yes: Philliefan Jen
I take it that Oswalt is in your good books now?;):innocent::lol:
transjen
10-17-2010, 11:12 PM
Tonight i would give him the worlds biggest kiss
:yes: Philliefan Jen
shadows
10-17-2010, 11:22 PM
Tonight i would give him the worlds biggest kiss
:yes: Philliefan Jen
I would consider him to be very lucky indeed if that had happened.:)
transjen
10-17-2010, 11:28 PM
I would consider him to be very lucky indeed if that had happened.:)
I dout his wife would be happy about it
:yes: Philliefan Jen
franalexes
10-17-2010, 11:34 PM
I dout his wife would be happy about it
:yes: Philliefan Jen
Behind every successful man, there's a woman.
Behind every man that has lost his success, there's often another woman.
transjen
10-17-2010, 11:37 PM
Behind every successful man, there's a woman.
Behind every man that has lost his success, there's often another woman.
Who me???? i'm a sweet innocent angel
:yes:Philliefan Jen
shadows
10-17-2010, 11:43 PM
Behind every man that has lost his success, there's often another woman.
Or a bad investment.;):lol:
dauls
10-18-2010, 11:33 PM
Game 3 ALCS and Cliff Lee pitches a beaut.:respect:
Rangers win 8-0 over the Yankees. :):):)
transjen
10-19-2010, 12:23 AM
It was great to see the mighty Yankess look clueless
:yes: Philliefan Jen
shadows
10-19-2010, 01:13 AM
Game 3 ALCS and Cliff Lee pitches a beaut.:respect:
Rangers win 8-0 over the Yankees. :):):)
Girardi showed his true colours as a coach tonight by totally mismanaging his bullpen. With a 2-0 deficit, he should have gone to Rivera in the top of the ninth rather than go with Robertson.
That being said, I am glad he is a bonehead as Texas got some much-needed insurance runs so that Lee didn't have to go out in the ninth(leaves him a tad fresher for his next game). Too bad about the eighth inning of game #1, otherwise Texas would have a 3-0 game lead.
It was great to see the mighty Yankess look clueless
:yes: Philliefan Jen
It is always a great start to the day for me when Jen and I agree. :) :respect:
shadows
10-19-2010, 07:57 PM
Philly lost game #3 today by a 3-0 score. Their offense has been pretty cold in two of the three games.
Currently the Yankees and Texas are tied 1-1 in game #4. A Berkman homerun was taken back and he ended up striking out, and a Cano homerun in which the Texas outfielder was possibly fan-interfered with counted. I did not see the play so I do not know if it was a homerun or not.
Burnett is beginning to unravel, hence the game now being tied.
Oops! As I am typing this(too lazy to fix it) the Rangers scored another. It is now 2-1 Texas.
transjen
10-19-2010, 08:54 PM
All i can say after watching game 4 is.. well perhaps it's best said by Homer so take it away Homer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6GuEswXOXo
:frown: Philliefan Jen
... a Cano homerun in which the Texas outfielder was possibly fan-interfered with counted. I did not see the play so I do not know if it was a homerun or not.
The fan definitely interfered, but Nelson would not have made the catch ... although I'm sure he felt as if he was going to be a video highlight for the ages.
A fan also interfered with Gardner catching a fly ball in the stands down the left field line. Fortunately for the Yankees, it didn't turn out to be a catastrophe, as when other scumbags (oops, sorry, I shifted into the local dialect for "Yankees fans") have done so.
dauls
10-19-2010, 11:11 PM
Philly lost game #3 today by a 3-0 score. Their offense has been pretty cold in two of the three games.
Damn. Bad loss. But Cain did pitch a good game. And yes, where has the Phillies offence gone?
For tomorrow's Game 4, I can't believe that Phillies' starter Joe Blanton is going into the game without a start since 24th Sept, and he hasn't pitched since a bit of relief on 3rd October. Well rested or rusty?
shadows
10-20-2010, 12:09 AM
The fan definitely interfered, but Nelson would not have made the catch ... although I'm sure he felt as if he was going to be a video highlight for the ages.
A fan also interfered with Gardner catching a fly ball in the stands down the left field line. Fortunately for the Yankees, it didn't turn out to be a catastrophe, as when other scumbags (oops, sorry, I shifted into the local dialect for "Yankees fans") have done so.
Thankfully both of those plays did not play a factor in the outcome of the game.
Texas took apart the Yankee bullpen again, scoring 5 runs off them in the process. And Burnett had that one bad pitch to Molina and that cost the Yankees the game. Good! I am also glad the Texas bullpen did NOT blow the game again(although with the 3 walks in the bottom of the 8th inning, I will admit that I was more than a little worried).
A 10-3 victory for Texas and now they are one victory away from going to their first ever World Series(and I think the Yankees will choke).
It looks like Mark Teixteira is done for the playoffs. He was 0 for the entire ALCS so they won't miss him on offense, but he is a pretty good fielding first baseman.
transjen
10-20-2010, 12:17 AM
For tomorrow's Game 4, I can't believe that Phillies' starter Joe Blanton is going into the game without a start since 24th Sept, and he hasn't pitched since a bit of relief on 3rd October. Well rested or rusty?
All i have to say is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9MxTRspXpQ
:eek: Philliefan Jen
Lord.Steve
10-20-2010, 01:51 AM
I'm so happy the NYY lost.. Though those fans messing with that play was insane! The fat kid was hitting away his glove
But for 1 inning, the Rangers would have already swept the Yankees!
dauls
10-21-2010, 01:27 AM
Oh sh:censored:t! We're in a big f:censored:g hole now, trailing 3-1 in the NLCS. :frown:
Halladay-Lincecum again in Game 5.
If we win that and get the Giants back East, will Oswalt be 100% ready to start Game 6? I was surprised to see him pitching in the 9th on Wednesday.
Oh sh:censored:t! We're in a big f:censored:g hole now, trailing 3-1 in the NLCS. :frown:
Halladay-Lincecum again in Game 5.
If we win that and get the Giants back East, will Oswalt be 100% ready to start Game 6? I was surprised to see him pitching in the 9th on Wednesday.
The moment I saw Oswalt head for the mound and Lidge stay behind, I knew two things: the Giants would win and Manuel had justed screwed Game 6, if there is a Game 6.
Go Giants!
morascodon
10-21-2010, 09:10 AM
Hopfully it'll be an undedog worldseries (Texas,San Francisco)
dauls
10-21-2010, 02:14 PM
The moment I saw Oswalt head for the mound and Lidge stay behind, I knew two things: the Giants would win and Manuel had justed screwed Game 6, if there is a Game 6.
Go Giants!
I know Brad Lidge still isn't pitching as well as he did in 2008, but what was Manuel's plan? Was he expecting extra innings and only prepared to send in Lidge once the Phillies' offense had scored some runs?
I know Brad Lidge still isn't pitching as well as he did in 2008, but what was Manuel's plan? Was he expecting extra innings and only prepared to send in Lidge once the Phillies' offense had scored some runs?
I assume asking what was in Manuel's head is a rhetorical question. I, for one, would not deign to understand any of the thinking of a man who would choose to become the manager or coach of any sports team in Philadelphia. I mean, dealing with the players is fine, but those fans! [Note to self: Insert standard Jen and dauls disclaimer here.] Really, why not just jump in front of a bus and get it over with? :lol:
shadows
10-21-2010, 09:58 PM
I know Brad Lidge still isn't pitching as well as he did in 2008, but what was Manuel's plan? Was he expecting extra innings and only prepared to send in Lidge once the Phillies' offense had scored some runs?
No offence, but Manuel's been out-managed on more than one occasion this series. I personally would have gone with Halladay in game #4 rather than go the route Manuel did.
Also, in another piece of bad news, the Yankees won game #5 7-2. Thankfully the Rangers still have a 3-2 game lead. I think they will win game #6. This may be better for them than winning game #5 as they will now win at home!
shadows
10-21-2010, 10:15 PM
The Phillies just won 4-2, so they now down 3-2 in games. The next game is on Saturday at 3:57pm EST(what is with the weird start times this year?).
dauls
10-21-2010, 10:44 PM
The Phillies just won 4-2, so they now down 3-2 in games. The next game is on Saturday at 3:57pm EST(what is with the weird start times this year?).
HOORAY! :) Phillies win. :cool:
I see Manuel was happy to send Lidge to the mound tonight - 10 pitches, 7 strikes - nice way to pick up a save.
So who will start Game 6 for the Phillies? Cole Hamels (on three days rest) or Roy Oswalt (only two days rest)?
transjen
10-21-2010, 10:53 PM
After watching tonights game i need a bottle of TUMS as for starter i say mix it up go with Cole for game 6 and save Oswalt for game 7
and for Christs sakes for now on just walk Cody Ross
:yes: Philliefan Jen
shadows
10-21-2010, 11:39 PM
I think if it goes to seven games Roy Halladay will be the starting pitcher, at least for a few innings. The guy is a workhorse, and if Sabathia can do it for the Yankees, I see no reason why Halladay can't. Their playoff lives would be on the line after all.
dauls
10-22-2010, 12:50 AM
I think if it goes to seven games Roy Halladay will be the starting pitcher, at least for a few innings. The guy is a workhorse, and if Sabathia can do it for the Yankees, I see no reason why Halladay can't. Their playoff lives would be on the line after all.
I can't believe Doc threw about 110 pitches during his 6 innings on the mound in Game 5. It usually takes him longer to break the 100 pitch barrier.
The Phillies just won 4-2, so they now down 3-2 in games. The next game is on Saturday at 3:57pm EST(what is with the weird start times this year?).
If you understood anything about numerology, you would comprehend why Phillies fans raised tens of thousands of dollars at Pat's and Geno's over the past week to bribe MLB officials for a start time of 3-5-7 on 10-23-10. :innocent:
Yes, every team has a moment like this in its history, but I'm still wondering, since it hasn't been mentioned:
Who among the Phillies fans here can admit that last night's win hinged largely on the god-awful call of home plate umpire Jeff Nelson on Halladay's bunt?!
dauls
10-22-2010, 05:31 PM
Yes, every team has a moment like this in its history, but I'm still wondering, since it hasn't been mentioned:
Who among the Phillies fans here can admit that last night's win hinged largely on the god-awful call of home plate umpire Jeff Nelson on Halladay's bunt?!
Er... :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:
177894
:lol:
Well, the Yankees tonight have scored their only run (thus far) on one of the worst calls I've seen by a home plate umpire in years. A Lewis pitched bounced in front of the plate, hit Nick Swisher's shin, and reversed direction away from catcher Bengie Molina. Swisher collapsed in pain until he realized that the umpire had called it a wild pitch, allowing A-Rod to score from third.
I almost agree with Jon Smoltz in the broadcast booth, who said that instant replay should be extended to run-scoring plays.
The Rangers responded, though, with 4 runs in their half of the inning. It's 5-1 now, heading into the 7th.
I love watching the Yankees squirm.
shadows
10-22-2010, 10:20 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!
The Texas Rangers are now going to the 2010 World Series! They defeated the Yankees 6-1. A-Roid struck out to end the game. It couldn't have happened to a bigger jerk.
What a good game!:cool:
transjen
10-22-2010, 10:51 PM
Well so far i have one correct pick in the world series, rember before the end of the season i picked Phillies vs Rangers
:yes: Philliefan Jen
dauls
10-23-2010, 12:05 AM
I love watching the Yankees squirm.:lol:
A-Roid struck out to end the game. It couldn't have happened to a bigger jerk.:lol:
Fortunately the missed Swisher HBP didn't affect the final result. It's great to see the Rangers beat those damn Yankees.
At the start of the season I wonder how many baseball fans picked Texas as their 2010 AL Champs?
Now for Roy Oswalt in Game 6. Has Manuel's odd midweek decision to use Oswalt from the bullpen taken too much out of him?
Lord.Steve
10-23-2010, 01:31 AM
Although I'm not a Rangers fan.. I do like seeing the NYY lose
A-Roid struck out to end the game. It couldn't have happened to a bigger jerk.
It's great to see the Rangers beat those damn Yankees.
Although I'm not a Rangers fan.. I do like seeing the NYY lose
It warms my heart, sitting here in Boston, to log on this morning and read these heartfelt words of other baseball fans. :yes:
Well so far i have one correct pick in the world series, rember before the end of the season i picked Phillies vs Rangers
:yes: Philliefan Jen
I remember, Jen. I hope your record stays at 1-1, though. :respect:
At the start of the season I wonder how many baseball fans picked Texas as their 2010 AL Champs?
Now for Roy Oswalt in Game 6. Has Manuel's odd midweek decision to use Oswalt from the bullpen taken too much out of him?
Actually, dauls, three of five Boston Globe baseball writers picked Texas to win the division. It's pretty odd for anyone to go so far as to predict post-season outcomes before the start of the season.
Manuel's "odd midweek decision to use Oswalt" is only one of several highly questionable calls by Manuel. For instance, why didn't he have Jimmy Rollins bunt the runner over from second to third, with no outs late in that game?
Of course, since I'm rooting for the Giants, I would like his streak of dumbness to continue.
shadows
10-23-2010, 10:43 PM
Well, it's over. The Philly offense was garbage again and good ol' Howard struck out to end the game(that guy strikes out waaaaaay too much).
San Francisco won the game 3-2 and took the series 4-2 and will now host Texas in the 2010 World Series.
I am rooting for Texas to win it all.
Well, it's over. The Philly offense was garbage again and good ol' Howard struck out to end the game(that guy strikes out waaaaaay too much).
San Francisco won the game 3-2 and took the series 4-2 and will now host Texas in the 2010 World Series.
I am rooting for Texas to win it all.
I'm also going for Texas. The series has the potential to be quite exciting.
shadows
10-23-2010, 10:53 PM
I'm also going for Texas. The series has the potential to be quite exciting.
It will be interesting to see if Texas can acclimate to the National League rule of no DH and whether or not it will hurt the offense that was so good against the Yankees.
dauls
10-24-2010, 04:19 AM
Well, it's over. The Philly offense was garbage again and good ol' Howard struck out to end the game(that guy strikes out waaaaaay too much).
San Francisco won the game 3-2 and took the series 4-2 and will now host Texas in the 2010 World Series.
I am rooting for Texas to win it all.
:censored: :censored: :censored: :frown:
But seriously, the best team won the series. :(
Where was the Phillies offense in the postseason? :confused:
Ryan Howard has always struck out too often, in 2007 he set a new single season record of 199 (played only 144 games).
It was obviously a feat he enjoyed so much because in 2008 he bagged another 199 strikeouts (162 games).
But in the same season his blushes were spared by Arizona's Mark Reynolds, who totaled 204 strikeouts.
Mark Reynolds has since made this record his own with 223 (in 155 games in 2009) and 211 (2010).
Ryan Howard's 13 strikeouts in the 2009 World Series is another all-time record.
Until checking, I always thought Ryan Howard was "Mr. Goes Down Swinging", he averages 192 strikouts per 162 games, but Mark Reynolds is on another planet and averages 221 per 162 games.
The Arizona Swing-'n'-Misses
The season Mark Reynolds helped Arizona D'backs set a new single season team strikout record of 1,529 - breaking the previous record of 1,399 by the 2001 Brewers. How the hell can the D'backs break the record by 130 strikeouts? Do they have a batting coach?
It will be a good series. I'm rooting for the Giants. I usually root for any American League team other than the Yankees, but I have a soft spot for the Giants. They were my grandpa's team from their New York days, and I have some strong connections to the Bay Area.
dauls
10-24-2010, 11:48 AM
It will be a good series. I'm rooting for the Giants. I usually root for any American League team other than the Yankees, but I have a soft spot for the Giants. They were my grandpa's team from their New York days, and I have some strong connections to the Bay Area.
I can't side with either team, but a close series decided in Game 7 would be ideal.
Nick Cafardo, one of the outstanding baseball writers for The Boston Globe, writes this morning that baseball owners will be discussing adding teams to the playoffs -- something that would have to be negotiated with the players union -- as early as 2012.
According to Cafardo, the thinking is to add an additional wild card in each league, have them play one game or a 3-game series to determine which one advances, and then commence with the division, league, and World Series as they exist now.
There are implications for the regular season. The head of the players union, Michael Weiner, told the Globe a few months ago and just reiterated to Cafardo that "some of the players have said that either we could shorten the regular season because the regular season's too long, or we should shorten the regular season to accommodate an expanded post-season."
There are serious revenue issues for owners if the regular season is shortened, so that's probably a non-starter. So, the likely outcome is baseball well into November, if this idea is adopted.
Commissioner Bud Selig has long stated his pride in the fact that baseball has the fewest number of playoff teams, making it the toughest sport in which to make the post-season.
In my opinion, this is a terrible idea.
shadows
10-27-2010, 08:01 PM
I disagree. I would like to see more teams in the post-season. Being in the AL East(the hardest division in baseball in my opinion), I would like the Jays to have more of a chance to make it to the post-season.
smc, what do you think of the following?
1. John Farrell as the new Manager of the Toronto Blue Jays.
2. The rumours of Manny Ramirez stating that the Blue Jays could be a good fit for him(due to the aforementioned signing of Farrell no doubt).
dauls
10-28-2010, 07:13 PM
I disagree. I would like to see more teams in the post-season. Being in the AL East(the hardest division in baseball in my opinion), I would like the Jays to have more of a chance to make it to the post-season.
shadows, I understand where you are coming from, but I agree with smc, four postseason teams per league is just fine. And I wonder how many old-school baseball fans still hate the wildcard?
And this year, for the first time in a while the four teams with the best records in both the AL and the NL qualified for the postseason - so all is good.
World Series Game 1: What happened to Cliff Lee?
shadows
10-28-2010, 08:12 PM
shadows, I understand where you are coming from, but I agree with smc, four postseason teams per league is just fine. And I wonder how many old-school baseball fans still hate the wildcard?
And this year, for the first time in a while the four teams with the best records in both the AL and the NL qualified for the postseason - so all is good.
World Series Game 1: What happened to Cliff Lee?
He took tips from the Yankee pitching staff.:lol:
Edgar Renteria, former Boston Red Sox, just put the Giants on top with a massive home run to left field. 1-0.
I will respond to the many questions above, shortly.
shadows
10-28-2010, 08:25 PM
Edgar Renteria, former Boston Red Sox, just put the Giants on top with a massive home run to left field. 1-0.
I will respond to the many questions above, shortly.
I think that with the National League winning the All-Star game(first in a loooong time), and gaining home-field advantage due to that, has helped the Giants immesely. Their opponent loses the DH for the first two games, and the opposing pitcher is forcred to bat.
The series is far from over, but the Giants are looking very good at the moment.
I disagree. I would like to see more teams in the post-season. Being in the AL East(the hardest division in baseball in my opinion), I would like the Jays to have more of a chance to make it to the post-season.
My friend, you've let hockey cloud your brain. The solution is not to allow more teams in (hockey has way too many playoff berths!), but to realign the divisions to be more equitable. Forget the geographic divisions and harmonize them in some other way. Or, institute revenue-sharing so that every team has an equal monetary chance at building a playoff-worthy team.
smc, what do you think of the following?
1. John Farrell as the new Manager of the Toronto Blue Jays.
I've been meaning to write about this. John Farrell leaving the Sox is a huge blow; he's an outstanding pitching coach. That said, I have no sense for how he will be as a manager. I know that he is considered to come from the Francona mold -- a player's manager, almost to a fault -- but I'm not sure he's got enough of the skill set to manage a big league club. He's never managed before. His coaching picks will be crucial. Yes, he was a player development chief for the Indians for five years, but ...
I'm one of those people, old-fashioned I guess, who still thinks that nothing prepares you for being a manager like being a big-league catcher.
2. The rumours of Manny Ramirez stating that the Blue Jays could be a good fit for him(due to the aforementioned signing of Farrell no doubt).
I doubt Manny's thinking (does Manny actually think?) has anything to do with Farrell other than him not being completely unfamiliar. I know he likes to hit at the Rogers Centre.
shadows
10-28-2010, 08:35 PM
I would be content with realignment of the Divisions. I am sick and tired of being in the same one as the Damned Yankees.
Oh! It looks like the Yankees re-signed Joe Girardi to a 3-year, $9 million contract. I have to :lol::lol: at that signing, as he is not that good of a Manager to be honest. A freaking trained monkey could do the job there! I don't think next season is going to be one that the Yankees' fans will enjoy(which will make me VERY happy).
shadows, I understand where you are coming from, but I agree with smc, four postseason teams per league is just fine. And I wonder how many old-school baseball fans still hate the wildcard?
And this year, for the first time in a while the four teams with the best records in both the AL and the NL qualified for the postseason - so all is good.
World Series Game 1: What happened to Cliff Lee?
I hate the wild card as a concept. I certainly understand the math that makes it "necessary."
As for Cliff Lee ... I told one of my best friends (he lives in San Francisco, and grew up with his uncle taking him into the Giants locker room at Candlestick Park to meet Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Juan Marichal, et al.), just before the game that Lee was due for a less-than-dominating game. I said if it happened in Game 1, the Giants would have a huge advantage in the series because of momentum.
A mutual acquaintance was at his house to watch the game. My friend Alan told him what I said and he got on the phone. "Oh, yeah, wanna bet?" I agreed to a $100 bet that the Giants would knock Lee out by the 6th inning.
My $100 arrived via PayPal today!
Anyone need any crystal ball work done today?
shadows
10-28-2010, 08:42 PM
Anyone need any crystal ball work done today?
Sure! When am I going to get a girlfriend, Swami SMC?:lol:
transjen
10-28-2010, 08:43 PM
There are two things in Baseball that needs to be done away with
1] the DH :eek:
2] the wildcard team in the play offs :eek:
:yes:Jerseygirl Jen
shadows
10-28-2010, 08:46 PM
There are two things in Baseball that needs to be done away with
1] the DH :eek:
2] the wildcard team in the play offs :eek:
:yes:Jerseygirl Jen
To be honest, I prefer the DH over watching a pitcher have an at-bat. True, there can be more strategy involved in a National League game, but I still prefer the DH.
I also don't mind the Wildcard. I do not think that they will be getting rid of it anytime soon(if ever).
Sure! When am I going to get a girlfriend, Swami SMC?:lol:
Did that glove break up with you? :lol:
(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
There are two things in Baseball that needs to be done away with
1] the DH :eek:
2] the wildcard team in the play offs :eek:
:yes:Jerseygirl Jen
Jen, I agree: I hate the DH, too.
I also don't like the wildcard, but how do you think it could be replaced if there are three divisions to a league? What would your solution be?
shadows
10-28-2010, 09:01 PM
Did that glove break up with you? :lol:
(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
That was mean! Now you'll have to give me half of your winnings.
transjen
10-28-2010, 09:04 PM
Jen, I agree: I hate the DH, too.
I also don't like the wildcard, but how do you think it could be replaced if there are three divisions to a league? What would your solution be?
Easy make a fourth divison
Or perhaps elimit some teams and have two divisons in each league
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen
Easy make a fourth divison
Or perhaps elimit some teams and have two divisons in each league
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen
The problem with four divisions is that without an equitable structure based NOT on geography it would only ensure that yet another team that wouldn't ever make the playoffs under the old system gets in.
It's a definite conundrum.
As for eliminating some teams, other that the obvious -- Pittsburgh -- who would you eliminate?
transjen
10-28-2010, 10:04 PM
The problem with four divisions is that without an equitable structure based NOT on geography it would only ensure that yet another team that wouldn't ever make the playoffs under the old system gets in.
It's a definite conundrum.
As for eliminating some teams, other that the obvious -- Pittsburgh -- who would you eliminate?
1]Rays
2]Marlins
3]Diamondbacks
4]Rockies
5]Braves
6]Astros
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen
dauls
10-28-2010, 10:16 PM
The problem with four divisions is that without an equitable structure based NOT on geography it would only ensure that yet another team that wouldn't ever make the playoffs under the old system gets in.
It's a definite conundrum.
The weak postseason team problem already exists with the three division system - in recent years how many teams just scraping a .500 season have qualified for the postseason?
A few years ago San Diego won the NL West with an 82-80 record - you need a much better record than that to win the wildcard spot.
I like the wildcard, remember the wildcard Marlins beat the damn Yankees in 2003. :) And in 2004... (I'll let smc tell the story)
The choice is a tough one between two divisions (old-school), three divisions (works more naturally) or four divisions (potentially lets more weak teams into postseason).
Controversial, but how about two divisions and two wildcard teams?
As for eliminating some teams, other that the obvious -- Pittsburgh -- who would you eliminate?
What is wrong with poor old Pittsburgh?
Apart from Philadelphia (Veterans Stadium) the Pittsburgh is the only other city where I've seen a baseball game - Pirates beat the Expos 6-1, at Three Rivers Stadium - meaning that the two stadia I've seen baseball in have both been demolished!!!
Eliminate: The Nationals - but that's part of the "bring back the Expos campaign".
What is wrong with poor old Pittsburgh?
Apart from Philadelphia (Veterans Stadium) the Pittsburgh is the only other city where I've seen a baseball game - Pirates beat the Expos 6-1, at Three Rivers Stadium - meaning that the two stadia I've seen baseball in have both been demolished!!!
Eliminate: The Nationals - but that's part of the "bring back the Expos campaign".
My mention of Pittsburgh was in passing, and should have been elaborated upon so that it would make sense. I don't actually advocate for dropping the Pirates from MLB, but it is a team that should be put into league receivership since it has an ownership group that shows absolutely no commitment to fielding a competitive team. Other than an incredibly beautiful, relatively new stadium (payed for largely by the taxpayers), there has been no real effort in some time to make Pittsburgh the baseball city it once was.
1]Rays
2]Marlins
3]Diamondbacks
4]Rockies
5]Braves
6]Astros
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen
Do tell, girl: what's the thinking behind each of these on your list?
The Giants slaughtered the Rangers tonight. More accurately, the Rangers bullpen put on one of the most embarrassingly awful displays I have ever seen in a professional baseball game, with four consecutive walks and more than a dozen pitches in a row called "ball"!
transjen
10-28-2010, 10:31 PM
Do tell, girl: what's the thinking behind each of these on your list? the first four were the latest expanson teams and were unneeded to start with and the two FL have poor attendance and i just can't stand the Braves and Texas already has the Rangers so drop the Astros
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen
dauls
10-28-2010, 10:37 PM
1]Rays
2]Marlins
3]Diamondbacks
4]Rockies
5]Braves
6]Astros
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen
Jen,
The Braves.:lol: Unfortunately that will never happen - but it's a nice idea.
The presenter on the old live baseball show in the UK (MLB on Five, 1997-2008) was a Braves fan and he used to gloat about winning the NL East every year (1995-2005) - I really enjoy seeing the Braves lose.
dauls
10-28-2010, 10:52 PM
The Giants slaughtered the Rangers tonight. More accurately, the Rangers bullpen put on one of the most embarrassingly awful displays I have ever seen in a professional baseball game, with four consecutive walks and more than a dozen pitches in a row called "ball"!
ESPN UK has moved live coverage of the World Series to one of their premium channels (that I cannot get) this season :frown: - so I listened to the game on the radio - better than nothing, but it's not the way I want to catch the Series next season.
the first four were the latest expanson teams and were unneeded to start with and the two FL have poor attendance and i just can't stand the Braves and Texas already has the Rangers so drop the Astros
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen
Well, that's certainly a mixed bag of reasons. I agree on the expansion teams and the Florida teams, although the Rays are starting to build a fan base.
If a state can only have one team (as you seem to argue for Texas), does that mean California has to lose four of its five teams: Anaheim, Los Angeles, Oakland, San Diego, and San Francisco?
I can't stand the Yankees and a certain other team that I should probably leave unnamed. Does that mean they can be dropped from MLB? ;)
ESPN UK has moved live coverage of the World Series to one of their premium channels (that I cannot get) this season :frown: - so I listened to the game on the radio - better than nothing, but it's not the way I want to catch the Series next season.
That's better than the cricket coverage we find on U.S. TV or radio!
transjen
10-29-2010, 12:53 AM
Well, that's certainly a mixed bag of reasons. I agree on the expansion teams and the Florida teams, although the Rays are starting to build a fan base.
If a state can only have one team (as you seem to argue for Texas), does that mean California has to lose four of its five teams: Anaheim, Los Angeles, Oakland, San Diego, and San Francisco?
I can't stand the Yankees and a certain other team that I should probably leave unnamed. Does that mean they can be dropped from MLB? ;)
You asked which teams i'd like to see go and that's my top teams to dump i dout that MLB will do what one lone fan thinks
As for Tampa buliding a fan base they have fans as long as they are on top and pretty much only draw big when the Yankees and Red Sox come to play FL is a football ,nascar and WWE state
:yes:Jerseygirl Jen
You asked which teams i'd like to see go and that's my top teams to dump i dout that MLB will do what one lone fan thinks
As for Tampa buliding a fan base they have fans as long as they are on top and pretty much only draw big when the Yankees and Red Sox come to play FL is a football ,nascar and WWE state
:yes:Jerseygirl Jen
Oh, Jen, I was only teasing!
Of course, MLB is not looking to contract. It's only a matter of time before there's a team in Mexico, if the drug wars ever end. I wouldn't be surprised to see a team in Puerto Rico in my lifetime.
transjen
10-29-2010, 01:27 AM
Oh, Jen, I was only teasing!
Of course, MLB is not looking to contract. It's only a matter of time before there's a team in Mexico, if the drug wars ever end. I wouldn't be surprised to see a team in Puerto Rico in my lifetime.
That would make a lot of sense as Baseball is hugh there and look at all the great players from there so i can see it happing as far as Mexico i believe they have there own league so they may not allow a MLB team to enter the market
:no: Jerseygirl Jen
shadows
10-29-2010, 03:09 AM
although the Rays are starting to build a fan base.
Are you sure about that? As far as I can tell, the attendance was horrible for the Rays this year, and this was a team that was fighting for 1st place in the AL East pretty much the entire season!
dauls
10-29-2010, 05:27 AM
That's better than the cricket coverage we find on U.S. TV or radio!
But surely there's more demand for baseball in the UK than there is for cricket in the USA.
After England's glorious Ashes summer of 2005, the only way to now watch live cricket on TV in the UK is by burdening yourself with an expensive contract with the devil Murdoch and his damn Sky Sports channels.
Are you sure about that? As far as I can tell, the attendance was horrible for the Rays this year, and this was a team that was fighting for 1st place in the AL East pretty much the entire season!
Yes, as measured by growth in non-corporate-held season tickets. But don't get me wrong: it's pitiful the overall lack of support such a good team receives.
But surely there's more demand for baseball in the UK than there is for cricket in the USA.
You thought I was being serious?! Get some sleep, my friend.
Most Americans would only know cricket if they heard one chirping outside their window. ;)
dauls
10-30-2010, 08:47 PM
You thought I was being serious?! Get some sleep, my friend.
Most Americans would only know cricket if they heard one chirping outside their window. ;)
:innocent: That's me, sleep deprived, missing my girlfriend while she works out of town. :(
The San Francisco Giants have just won the 2010 World Series, 4 games to 1. Tim Lincecum was virtually unhittable, and Edgard Renteria joined Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Berra as the only four players in MLB history to have the game-winning RBI in two different final games of World Series (Renteria did it with the Marlins in 1997).
transjen
11-01-2010, 10:34 PM
The San Francisco Giants have just won the 2010 World Series, 4 games to 1. Tim Lincecum was virtually unhittable, and Edgard Renteria joined Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Berra as the only four players in MLB history to have the game-winning RBI in two different final games of World Series (Renteria did it with the Marlins in 1997).
Who cares it's hockey season now
:yes: Flyersfan Jen
dauls
11-02-2010, 12:23 AM
The San Francisco Giants have just won the 2010 World Series, 4 games to 1. Tim Lincecum was virtually unhittable, and Edgard Renteria joined Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Berra as the only four players in MLB history to have the game-winning RBI in two different final games of World Series (Renteria did it with the Marlins in 1997).
It's been a bit of a pitchers' season:
- Two perfect games (Dallas Braden, Roy Halladay)
- Armando Galarraga's near-perfect game
- Three no-hitters (Ubaldo Jimenez, Edwin Jackson, Matt Garza)
- Roy Halladay's postseason no-hitter
- The lowest league batting average (.257) since 1999
So I suppose it's only reasonable to see, arguably the best pitching teams in the MLB, win the World Series.
And after playing only 72 games this regular season, who would've guessed that Edgar Reneria would come good in the Series?
dauls
11-02-2010, 12:27 AM
Q: What happened in baseball on the 25 June 2010 for the first time since the 10th October 1984?
shadows
11-02-2010, 02:19 AM
They say that good pitching will always beat good hitting. The Giants certainly proved that during the World Series(throughout the playoffs, actually).
At least we won't have to see BeachBall head on television anymore(at least until his trial starts;)).:yes:
shadows
11-02-2010, 02:20 AM
Q: What happened in baseball on the 25 June 2010 for the first time since the 10th October 1984?
I am too lazy to Google it. What happened?:p:)
dauls
11-03-2010, 08:48 PM
Q: What happened in baseball on the 25 June 2010 for the first time since the 10th October 1984?
I am too lazy to Google it. What happened?:p:)
As a Toronto fan I thought you would have seen/heard the answer during the season.
The dates refer to:
:) Game 1 of a three game interleague series this season between the Phillies and the Blue Jays at Citizens Bank Park; and
:) Game 2 of the 1984 World Series between the Tigers and the Padres at Jack Murphy Stadium, San Diego.
transjen
11-03-2010, 09:14 PM
As a Toronto fan I thought you would have seen/heard the answer during the season.
The dates refer to:
:) Game 1 of a three game interleague series this season between the Phillies and the Blue Jays at Citizens Bank Park; and
:) Game 2 of the 1984 World Series between the Tigers and the Padres at Jack Murphy Stadium, San Diego.
I believe you mean Vetrans stadium
:yes: Jerserygirl Jen
newkno
11-03-2010, 09:41 PM
very gooood ;)
dauls
11-03-2010, 11:43 PM
I believe you mean Vetrans stadium
:yes: Jerserygirl Jen
:no: :no: :no: My question has nothing to do with the 1993 World Series - when Game 1 of the series was played in the SkyDome.
I was refering to 25th June 2010 - this season - the first game of the regular season three-game Phillies-Blue Jays series in Citizens Bank Park (25th-27th June 2010).
Question:
What happened in baseball on the 25th June 2010 (Phillies-Blue Jays @Citizens Bank Park) for the first time since the 10th October 1984 (Tigers-Padres @Jack Murphy Stadium)?
shadows
11-04-2010, 03:11 AM
:no: :no: :no: My question has nothing to do with the 1993 World Series - when Game 1 of the series was played in the SkyDome.
I was refering to 25th June 2010 - this season - the first game of the regular season three-game Phillies-Blue Jays series in Citizens Bank Park (25th-27th June 2010).
Question:
What happened in baseball on the 25th June 2010 (Phillies-Blue Jays @Citizens Bank Park) for the first time since the 10th October 1984 (Tigers-Padres @Jack Murphy Stadium)?
Hmmmm. I'm going to guess that someone stole home?:) Twice in one game!
dauls
11-04-2010, 03:35 AM
Hmmmm. I'm going to guess that someone stole home?:) Twice in one game!
No.
But the 2010 G-20 Toronto Summit (26th & 27th June 2010) was the reason this happened. Does that help?
transjen
11-04-2010, 04:42 PM
Just saw on my computer that Sparky [big Red machine] Anderson has passed away :eek:
:( Jerseygirl Jen
Just saw on my computer that Sparky [big Red machine] Anderson has passed away :eek:
:( Jerseygirl Jen
He was quite a character. I recommend this tribute to all the baseball fans out there (there's text and video):
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=5765272
It includes the story of Sparky's cameo role on the old TV sitcom "WKRP in Cincinnati."
shadows
11-04-2010, 07:15 PM
No.
But the 2010 G-20 Toronto Summit (26th & 27th June 2010) was the reason this happened. Does that help?
Without looking at the following posts, I will say my answer.
It was the first time since 1984 that a visiting team was considered the "home team" due to unforseen circumstances(I can't believe I didn't clue on this right away! D'oh!).:yes:
shadows
11-04-2010, 07:17 PM
He was quite a character. I recommend this tribute to all the baseball fans out there (there's text and video):
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=5765272
It includes the story of Sparky's cameo role on the old TV sitcom "WKRP in Cincinnati."
He was truly one of the classiest individuals in the sport of baseball. Rest in peace, Sparky.:(:(
shadows
11-04-2010, 07:19 PM
Here is another article on him from TSN.ca:
Reds fans were taken aback when Sparky Anderson showed up in Cincinnati for his first day as a big league manager, an unknown taking over baseball's first professional team.
Sparky who?
Really?
By the time he was done, this man with the shock of white hair and schoolboy nickname would produce a mighty list of achievements that featured three World Series titles -- including crowns in each league -- and a Hall of Fame entry on his resume.
Anderson, who directed the Big Red Machine to back-to-back championships and won another in Detroit, died Thursday from complications of dementia in Thousand Oaks, Calif. He was 76. A day earlier, his family said he'd been placed in hospice care.
Anderson was the first manager to win World Series titles in both leagues and the only manager to lead two franchises in career wins.
"Sparky was, by far, the best manager I ever played for," said former Reds star Pete Rose, the game's career hits leader. "He understood people better than anyone I ever met. His players loved him, he loved his players, and he loved the game of baseball. There isn't another person in baseball like Sparky Anderson. He gave his whole life to the game."
Anderson's teams in Cincinnati featuring Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan and Rose that won crowns in 1975 and 1976 rank among the most powerful of all time. Led by Kirk Gibson and Alan Trammell, Anderson won with the Tigers in 1984.
"He was a good guy," former Tigers pitcher Jack Morris said, choking up over the news. "Baseball will have very few people like Sparky. He was a unique individual. He was a character with a great passion and love for the game."
Anderson never tried to overshadow his teams, giving his stars great leeway while trying to stay in the background. At Anderson's request, there will be no funeral or memorial service.
"He was a people person," said Morgan, a Hall of Fame second baseman. "I don't think anybody else could have managed that team nearly as well as he did. We had a lot of different personalities. Sparky was able to deal with all of us on an individual basis but also collectively as a team.
"Because he was close to you and cared about you as a person, you were always willing to do more for him than you were for somebody else. I never thought of him as my manager. I thought of him as part of my family."
Always affable, ever talkative and known for a self-deprecating demeanour, Anderson was equally popular among players, fans and media.
"Revered and treasured by his players for his humility, humanity, eternal optimism and knowledge of the game," his Hall of Fame plaque reads.
Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig called Anderson a gentleman and dear friend.
"I recall with great fondness the many hours we would spend together when his Tigers came to Milwaukee," Selig said. "Sparky was a loyal friend, and whenever I would be dealing with difficult situations as commissioner, he would lift my spirits, telling me to keep my head up and that I was doing the right thing."
The Reds put a photo of Anderson on their outfield videoboard at Great American Ball Park on Thursday afternoon, honouring the man who led them to their greatest moments.
"In one way or another, Sparky touched the life of every Reds fan," owner Bob Castellini said.
Anderson's win total of 2,194 was the third highest when he retired after the 1995 season, trailing only Connie Mack and John McGraw. He's still sixth on the career list -- he won 863 games in nine years with the Reds and 1,331 in 17 seasons with the Tigers.
He'll be remembered as much for the little things that made him beloved as for the big numbers that made him a Hall of Famer.
"Being a good baseball player and person went hand-in-hand with him," said Alan Trammell, the 1984 World Series MVP who is Arizona's bench coach. "He wanted us to put our dirty clothes in the bin so that the clubhouse guys didn't have to pick up after us."
In many ways away from the field, he was a teacher.
"He had a lot to do with moulding me professionally and taught me a lot about perseverance," Morris said.
Anderson knew all about perseverance.
George (Sparky) Anderson got his nickname in the minor leagues because of his spirited play. He made it to the majors for only one season, batting .218 for the Phillies in 1959.
Anderson learned to control a temper that nearly scuttled his fledgling career as a manager in the minors, and went on to become one of baseball's best at running a team. And he won with a humility that couldn't obscure his unique ability to manage people.
"I got good players, stayed out of their way, let them win a lot and then just hung around for 26 years," he said during his Hall of Fame acceptance speech in 2000.
Of course, there was a lot more to him.
"To be around me, you have to be a little bit cuckoo," Anderson said on the day he resigned from the Tigers after the 1995 season. "One day it's written in concrete, the next day it's written in sand. I always felt if I didn't change my mind every 24 hours, people would find me boring."
Family spokesman Dan Ewald knew Anderson for about 35 years as a former Tigers spokesman and baseball writer for the Detroit News.
"Sparky Anderson will always be measured by his number of victories and his place in baseball's Hall of Fame. But all of that is overshadowed by the type of person he was. Sparky not only spiked life into baseball, he gave life in general something to smile about. Never in my lifetime have I met a man as gentle, kind and courageous as Sparky," he said.
Anderson's win total trails only those of Mack, McGraw, Tony La Russa, Bobby Cox and Joe Torre. His overall record was 2,194-1834 and he was a two-time AL Manager of the Year.
"Sparky was one of the greatest people I've met in baseball," Detroit Hall of Famer Al Kaline said. "He was a leader to his players both on and off the field. He was an incredible person and I cherish the time I was able to spend with him."
While Anderson was often surrounded by top players, there was more to his ability than merely filling out a lineup card.
He had the right touch with superstars, and it came in handy when he led the star-studded Reds to World Series wins in 1975-76. He won four National League pennants in Cincinnati from 1970-78, then was stung when the Reds fired him after consecutive second-place finishes.
Anderson took his disappointment to the other league and won there, too, directing the Tigers to the 1984 championship and a division title in 1987. He was voted into Cooperstown by the Veterans Committee.
Even then, he showed his usual self-deprecation. Anderson had refused to step foot inside the Hall until 2000 because he felt unworthy.
"I didn't ever want to go into the most precious place in the world unless I belonged," Anderson said.
For a long time, he was a longshot to make the Hall.
The only notable thing about Anderson as a player was his prematurely greying hair and his nickname. He was playing for Fort Worth in the Texas League in 1955 when a radio announcer, taken by his feisty play, started calling him Sparky.
The name stuck. He didn't. Anderson made it to the majors in 1959 and singled home the go-ahead run on opening day in Cincinnati, which turned out to be the highlight of his playing career. A light-hitting second baseman, he had 12 extra-base hits -- zero home runs -- and 34 RBIs in 477 at-bats.
Inducted into the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame in 2007, Anderson played six seasons of minor-league baseball north of the border, two with the Montreal Royals and four with the Toronto Maple Leafs at the tail end of his playing career.
He retired after the 1963 season and at age 30, made his managerial debut with Toronto in '64, taking charge of a team stocked with veterans, some much older than him. He assumed a championship that year was coming but he was wrong.
"I learned one major thing (that year)," Anderson said in 2007. "I said, 'If this club doesn't win, than I deserve to be fired.' And then the club didn't win and I was gone. A major thing is don't be saying before the season what will happen. You just never know."
Despite an 80-72 finish Anderson was fired.
He was overly aggressive in his strategy and argued every close call with umpires while in Toronto, showing a short fuse that also contributed to his dismissal. Cardinals general manager Bob Howsam gave him a second chance to manage in the minors, then moved to Cincinnati to build the Reds.
When he needed a big league manager there, he decided to call Anderson, who was shocked to get the chance. The youngest manager in the majors at age 35, he signed the $28,500 contract -- by far the most money he'd ever made -- and set out to make himself known in a city asking: Sparky who?
"Bob Howsam either had to be nuts or have a lot of savvy," Anderson said. "As it turns out, he had a lot of savvy."
Howsam assembled one of the most talented teams of all time -- Bench, Morgan, Rose, Tony Perez, Ken Griffey Sr., George Foster, Davey Concepcion. Anderson was charged with making it work.
Anderson's plaque in Cooperstown calls him "the crank that turned the Big Red Machine," and his players agree that it fit. Bench noted that Anderson treated his players respectfully and was always on top of game strategy.
"It's a lot like a chess game, and Sparky was a chess master," Bench said.
-End of Part 1-
shadows
11-04-2010, 07:20 PM
-Part 2-
In Cincinnati, Anderson also got himself another nickname: Captain Hook, a reference to his habit of pulling a starting pitcher when he got into a jam late in a game. He also showed creativity in making lineup changes.
One of the most important moves: switching Rose from left field to third base on May 3, 1975, allowing Foster to play full-time in left. It was the final piece of the Machine, which beat Boston in a dramatic seven-game Series that year, then swept to another title while winning 108 games the following season.
Two second-place seasons led to a surprising firing. The Reds have won only one other NL title and World Series since he left, in 1990 under Lou Piniella. Anderson moved on to Detroit, where he had more longevity and added one more title.
He refused to manage replacement players during baseball's labour dispute in spring training of 1995, angering owner Mike Ilitch. He resigned after a 60-win season, saying the franchise needed a new direction. He hoped to manage somewhere else, but when an offer never came along, he retired.
Survivors include his wife, Carol; sons Lee and Albert; daughter Shirley Englebrecht; and nine grandchildren.
dauls
11-04-2010, 10:35 PM
Without looking at the following posts, I will say my answer.
It was the first time since 1984 that a visiting team was considered the "home team" due to unforseen circumstances(I can't believe I didn't clue on this right away! D'oh!).:yes:
You're part of the way there.
The Blue Jays were the home team for their visit to Citizens Bank Park (25th-27th June 2010).
But back in October 1984 for Game 2 of the World Series @Jack Murphy Stadium, San Diego - the Padres (home) hosted the Tigers (away).
Remember these two games are interleague games (AL Team V's NL Team) played in a NL stadium.
So what could have happened this year for the first time since it last occured back in Game 2 of the 1984 World Series?
Note: A rule change was applied before the 1986 World Series to stop this happening every other year.
shadows
11-05-2010, 06:31 PM
You're part of the way there.
The Blue Jays were the home team for their visit to Citizens Bank Park (25th-27th June 2010).
But back in October 1984 for Game 2 of the World Series @Jack Murphy Stadium, San Diego - the Padres (home) hosted the Tigers (away).
Remember these two games are interleague games (AL Team V's NL Team) played in a NL stadium.
So what could have happened this year for the first time since it last occured back in Game 2 of the 1984 World Series?
Note: A rule change was applied before the 1986 World Series to stop this happening every other year.
Didn't the majority of the "gate" go to the Blue Jays since it was supposed to be their home game? Other than that, I'm stumped.
dauls
11-06-2010, 01:01 AM
Didn't the majority of the "gate" go to the Blue Jays since it was supposed to be their home game? Other than that, I'm stumped.
To put you out of your misery.
It's about the Designated Hitter (DH).
Remember, the Blue Jays (of the AL) were the home team @Citizens Bank Park - AL rules applied to the series.
Answer:
Game 1 of the series @Citizens Bank Park on 25th June 2010 was the first game to use Designated Hitters in a National League ballpark since Game 2 of the 1984 World Series @Jack Murphy Stadium when the Padres hosted the Tigers.
:frown: Even though the DH rule was introduced to the AL in 1973, DHs were not used in the 1973, 1974 and 1975 World Series.
:eek: But starting in 1976, the World Series allowed the use of a DH in both AL and NL ballparks, but only in even-numbered years. This ended in 1985.
:) Finally, in 1986, baseball adopted the current rule in which the DH is used for World Series games played in AL ballparks but not in NL ballparks.
Note:
Next season, as a make-up, the plan is for the Phillies to host the Blue Jays @Rogers Centre, Toronto (1st-3rd July) - playing under NL rules, ie. no DHs allowed - and this will be the first time since Game 7 of the 1985 World Series @Royals Stadium, where Designated Hitters won't be used in an AL stadium.
shadows
11-07-2010, 03:20 PM
To put you out of your misery.
It's about the Designated Hitter (DH).
Remember, the Blue Jays (of the AL) were the home team @Citizens Bank Park - AL rules applied to the series.
Answer:
Game 1 of the series @Citizens Bank Park on 25th June 2010 was the first game to use Designated Hitters in a National League ballpark since Game 2 of the 1984 World Series @Jack Murphy Stadium when the Padres hosted the Tigers.
:frown: Even though the DH rule was introduced to the AL in 1973, DHs were not used in the 1973, 1974 and 1975 World Series.
:eek: But starting in 1976, the World Series allowed the use of a DH in both AL and NL ballparks, but only in even-numbered years. This ended in 1985.
:) Finally, in 1986, baseball adopted the current rule in which the DH is used for World Series games played in AL ballparks but not in NL ballparks.
Note:
Next season, as a make-up, the plan is for the Phillies to host the Blue Jays @Rogers Centre, Toronto (1st-3rd July) - playing under NL rules, ie. no DHs allowed - and this will be the first time since Game 7 of the 1985 World Series @Royals Stadium, where Designated Hitters won't be used in an AL stadium.
I never would have guessed that without resorting to cheating.:lol:
And why should they have to "make it up"? It wasn't the Jays fault that the stupid G20 was going on! I disagree with that decision.
dauls
11-09-2010, 04:16 AM
And why should they have to "make it up"? It wasn't the Jays fault that the stupid G20 was going on! I disagree with that decision.
It's a 'make up' to Toronto, to compensate the Blue Jays and their fans for losing out on three home fixtures this season - only 78 games were played @Rogers Centre in 2010.
In 2011 it sounds like the plan is to move a three game series from Citizens Bank Park to Rogers Centre - but to even things up the Phillies will be hosts and the games will be played under National League rules.
Therefore the Blue Jays should play 84 regular season games @Rogers Centre next year.
shadows
11-09-2010, 09:41 PM
It's a 'make up' to Toronto, to compensate the Blue Jays and their fans for losing out on three home fixtures this season - only 78 games were played @Rogers Centre in 2010.
In 2011 it sounds like the plan is to move a three game series from Citizens Bank Park to Rogers Centre - but to even things up the Phillies will be hosts and the games will be played under National League rules.
Therefore the Blue Jays should play 84 regular season games @Rogers Centre next year.
That may be true, but I dislike watching pitchers hit. I remember what happened to the Yankee's pitcher a few seasons ago during Interleague play. Wang got hurt running the basepaths and he was never the same pitcher after that. Yankee or not, I don't want to see anyone get hurt...except maybe A-Roid. Maybe he can get a hemorroid or something.
With the Leafs sucking big time, I cannot wait for baseball to start up again. At least the Jays show up on the scoreboard!
shadows
12-13-2010, 11:09 PM
Smc, I am honestly surprised that you didn't make any mention about the Red Sox signing Carl Crawford!:eek:
shadows
12-13-2010, 11:20 PM
Wow! If this is true, the Phillies are going to be a great rotation next season! And I would much prefer him going to the Phillies than the damned Yankees.;)
From tsn.ca:
(since it is just a Report, it isn't a full article yet. I'll post more as it comes.)
REPORT: CLIFF LEE REACHES PRELIMINARY DEAL WITH PHILLIES
NEW YORK -- A person familiar with the negotiations tells The Associated Press that Cliff Lee has reached a preliminary agreement on a contract with the Philadelphia Phillies.
According to the New York Post, the deal is worth more than $100 million over five years.
The deal is subject to the 32-year-old left-hander passing a physical, the person said late Monday night on condition of anonymity because the agreement was not final.
The New York Yankees and Texas Rangers received telephone calls Monday night telling them they were out of the running, two separate people familiar with those team's negotiations said, also on condition of anonymity.
Earlier this week, MLB.com reported that Lee has passed on signing with the Washington Nationals, who, along with the Rangers and Yankees, were considered the only serious suitors in the Lee sweepstakes.
He was a combined 12-9 with a 3.18 earned-run average for Seattle and Texas last season. Lee was 7-0 with a 1.26 ERA in eight career post-season starts before twice losing to San Francisco in the World Series.
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AP Sports Writer Rob Maaddi contributed to this report.
dauls
12-14-2010, 05:35 AM
Wow! If this is true, the Phillies are going to be a great rotation next season! And I would much prefer him going to the Phillies than the damned Yankees.;)
From tsn.ca:
(since it is just a Report, it isn't a full article yet. I'll post more as it comes.)
REPORT: CLIFF LEE REACHES PRELIMINARY DEAL WITH PHILLIES...
Big surprise to see him back in Philadelphia. What a great rotation for 2011.
@mlb.com:
A five-year contract with a vesting option for a sixth year - the deal in the $120 million range.
That's gonna stretch the Phillies budget.
I wonder what it will mean for pitchers like Blanton, Kendrick, etc., and also the non-pitching staff? Who will leave Philly?
Smc, I am honestly surprised that you didn't make any mention about the Red Sox signing Carl Crawford!:eek:
I've been waiting to provide a fuller assessment of what the reconfigurations of teams look like after Lee, Pavano, et al. are signed -- rather than just rubbing the Gonzalez and Crawford signings in. ;)
shadows
12-14-2010, 05:39 PM
Big surprise to see him back in Philadelphia. What a great rotation for 2011.
@mlb.com:
A five-year contract with a vesting option for a sixth year - the deal in the $120 million range.
That's gonna stretch the Phillies budget.
I wonder what it will mean for pitchers like Blanton, Kendrick, etc., and also the non-pitching staff? Who will leave Philly?
Werth has already left(I wonder if he is wondering "Why did I do that?" now?;)). Their main issue last year wasn't pitching, it was their offense(which disappeared in the playoffs). Cliff Lee helps their already imposing pitching staff, but their offense is still the same(except for the departure of the aforementioned Werth). Will the Cliff Lee signing ultimately help them win the World Series? Only time will tell I guess.
transjen
12-15-2010, 11:51 PM
With Lee back in Phillie Blanton's days are numbered not because he isn't a decent pitcher but because he's now expandable and i can see him packaged out for some power in thier offense
Holiday, Oswalt, Lee and Holmes all four of these guys tend to go at least 7 or 8 innings witch means a lot less worries of the bullpen blowing games next year
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