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smc
02-24-2010, 11:03 PM
Oh and Finland is ahead 1 to 0 with 5:30 to go. Great goal tending on both sides.

A truly amazing hockey game!!

GRH
02-25-2010, 10:53 AM
Congrats to team Canada for their win over Russia! :)

smc
02-25-2010, 07:06 PM
Canadian women up 2-0 at the end of the 2nd period against the Americans. Team USA couldn't even score a goal with a 5-on-3 power play!

Go Canada!!

shadows
02-25-2010, 07:19 PM
Jeez, nearly an entire page while I'm logged out, nearly a play-by-play of the Canada victory over Russia!

I think it's funny that Jon Miller and Joe Morgan have come up. One thing you have to give Joe Morgan credit for: there is no other baseball broadcaster I know of who routinely gets away with saying the same thing twice, again and again and again and again, over the course of a game. Jon Miller is a horse's ass, too, however, so they are made for each other!

Could you tell that I was excited about the game?;)

Perhaps Joe Morgan gets tips from Michael Cole(a play-by-play announcer for WWE wrestling)! Apparently he is not well liked by many people in that company.:eek:

shadows
02-25-2010, 07:22 PM
A couple of the results from last night could be considered upsets. Slovakia beating Sweden(defending champs) and Finland beating the Czech Republic!

So it will be Finland vs US and Slovakia vs Canada in the two semi-final games on Friday.

ila
02-25-2010, 07:27 PM
A couple of the results from last night could be considered upsets. Slovakia beating Sweden(defending champs) and Finland beating the Czech Republic!

So it will be Finland vs US and Slovakia vs Canada in the two semi-final games on Friday.

Everyone at work is saying that Canada will be beat Slovakia. They will, too if they play like they did last night. There is also complete agreement that Luongo should have been the starting goalie right from game 1.

shadows
02-25-2010, 07:36 PM
Everyone at work is saying that Canada will be beat Slovakia. They will, too if they play like they did last night. There is also complete agreement that Luongo should have been the starting goalie right from game 1.

Yes, but one thing that Slovakia has that is a plus for them is Halak for their goaltender. He is been pretty good in the Olympics so far(and he's been good for your team most of the season).

I imagine that this will be the one time that you want to see Halak get shelled?:eek:

shadows
02-25-2010, 07:37 PM
It is over!

The Canadian women have captured Olympic gold! They beat the US 2-0 for their third straight gold medal.:)

Congratulations ladies!:respect:

ila
02-25-2010, 07:42 PM
Yes, but one thing that Slovakia has that is a plus for them is Halak for their goaltender. He is been pretty good in the Olympics so far(and he's been good for your team most of the season).

I imagine that this will be the one time that you want to see Halak get shelled?:eek:

Yep, I wouldn't mind seeing Halak letting a lot of pucks past him.

ila
02-25-2010, 07:42 PM
It is over!

The Canadian women have captured Olympic gold! They beat the US 2-0 for their third straight gold medal.:)

Congratulations ladies!:respect:

Well done. I knew it would be a close game.

shadows
02-25-2010, 07:59 PM
Yep, I wouldn't mind seeing Halak letting a lot of pucks past him.

As long as it doesn't continue past the Olympics, eh Ila?;)

ila
02-25-2010, 08:02 PM
As long as it doesn't continue past the Olympics, eh Ila?;)

Definitely. Every goalie has his off games and the Olympics is the time for Halak to have his off games. When he gets back to Montreal he has to start getting shutouts again.

shadows
02-25-2010, 11:23 PM
Definitely. Every goalie has his off games and the Olympics is the time for Halak to have his off games. When he gets back to Montreal he has to start getting shutouts again.

If not, I am sure Carey Price is licking his chops in anticipation of Halak falling apart.;)

dauls
02-26-2010, 03:32 PM
It is over!

The Canadian women have captured Olympic gold! They beat the US 2-0 for their third straight gold medal.:)

Congratulations ladies!:respect:

Good game, and a deserved win. But no one could score on powerplays. It was predictable that the Canadians would open the scoring soon after surviving that first 5-on-3. The Canadian goalie had a really good game.

Their post match boozing and smoking on the ice was bound to upset :frown::( the IOC suits. I suppose they'd have gotten away with just drinking champagne, but 6-packs and cigars was going too far. :lol:

dauls
02-26-2010, 03:56 PM
Sorry fellow hockey fans, but I've been watching the Six Nations Rugby (Wales-France) on BBC, and at half time (France leading 20-0 in Cardiff) I realised the USA-Finland hockey had started.

So I switched over to the BBC's extra channel only to catch the deathly silence that filled the airwaves during the break between the 1st and 2nd periods of the hockey.:no:

The BBC and their now infamous hockey-novice commentator have a habit of walking away from the mic at the end of the period and leaving dead air. All we're left with are the mumbles of the crowd and a long shot of the Zamboni machines circling the ice.:frown:

There wasn't even a caption on the screen to show the USA lead 6-0. The BBC can be really crap sometimes.:yes:

I had to return to the rugby because a demolition of the Welsh is simply too entertaining for me to miss. :lol:

I hoped the French would totally humiliate the Welsh in the second half, but the Welsh fought back to 20-13, before a couple of French penalties and a last minute Welsh try meant the game ended 26-20. Still I'm happy the Welsh lost.:) Tomorrow it's England-Ireland, should be a close game.

Now the rugby has finished it's back to the hockey for the 3rd period. How the hell did the second period remain scoreless?:confused:

smc
02-26-2010, 04:52 PM
Good game, and a deserved win. But no one could score on powerplays. It was predictable that the Canadians would open the scoring soon after surviving that first 5-on-3. The Canadian goalie had a really good game.

Their post match boozing and smoking on the ice was bound to upset :frown::( the IOC suits. I suppose they'd have gotten away with just drinking champagne, but 6-packs and cigars was going too far. :lol:

Do you think any of those Canadian players are the kind of gurls we like? ;)

Oh, just the thought of it!

smc
02-26-2010, 04:53 PM
All we're left with are the mumbles of the crowd and a long shot of the Zamboni machines circling the ice.:frown:

At least they're using Zambonis and not those weird eco-friendly things that got the speed skaters so riled up!

ila
02-26-2010, 06:01 PM
Their post match boozing and smoking on the ice was bound to upset :frown::( the IOC suits. I suppose they'd have gotten away with just drinking champagne, but 6-packs and cigars was going too far. :lol:

I don't see anything wrong with having beer and champagne after winning. I thought it was rather stupid to start smoking; they are after all athletes and smoking is not conducive to athletic performance.

I see that Hockey Canada apologized to the IOC for the women's team. To me it seems stupid to apologize for the actions of someone else. I don't see what there was to apologize for either. They won the game, let them have their celebration. :censored::censored: Hockey Canada and IOC; grow and get a life.

smc
02-26-2010, 06:55 PM
I don't see anything wrong with having beer and champagne after winning. I thought it was rather stupid to start smoking; they are after all athletes and smoking is not conducive to athletic performance.

I see that Hockey Canada apologized to the IOC for the women's team. To me it seems stupid to apologize for the actions of someone else. I don't see what there was to apologize for either. They won the game, let them have their celebration. :censored::censored: Hockey Canada and IOC; grow and get a life.

I'm thinking about starting a poll. Which is worse? Canadian women's hockey team members celebrating an outstanding Olympics and a gold medal with beer, champagne, and cigars, or IOC members taking bribes to pick a particular city for the Olympics?

ila
02-26-2010, 07:14 PM
I'm thinking about starting a poll. Which is worse? Canadian women's hockey team members celebrating an outstanding Olympics and a gold medal with beer, champagne, and cigars, or IOC members taking bribes to pick a particular city for the Olympics?

:lol: That is an excellent idea.

smc
02-26-2010, 08:26 PM
Only a few moments to opening face-off.

Who is watching? ila, I know you're around.

shadows, are you stuck at work?

dauls, are you up in the middle of the night with those wacko BBC guys?

Go Canada!

ila
02-26-2010, 08:28 PM
Only a few moments to opening face-off.

Who is watching? ila, I know you're around.

shadows, are you stuck at work?

dauls, are you up in the middle of the night with those wacko BBC guys?

Go Canada!

I'll be checking the game throughout the evening.

smc
02-26-2010, 08:53 PM
So, I guess this is the equivalent of live blogging about hockey on a tgirl forum.

1-0 Canada, at about 6:20 left in the 1st period, on a goal that required some review!

smc
02-26-2010, 08:56 PM
Make that 2-0 Canada. What a goal, too!

smc
02-26-2010, 09:46 PM
Ryan Getzlaf with a power play goal makes it 3-0 Canada, with about 3 minutes left in the 2nd period.

ila
02-26-2010, 10:17 PM
It's still 3 - 0 for Canada with 11:30 left in the third period.

smc
02-26-2010, 10:25 PM
3-1 now, but Canada is still so dominant!

smc
02-26-2010, 10:29 PM
3-2 with 6:53 left!!

smc
02-26-2010, 10:39 PM
Cinderella did not find her glass slipper.

Team Canada wins 3-2, but what an amazing effort in the 3rd period by Slovakia.

And now this American gets to root for Canada in the Gold Medal game!

Whoopee!!!

dauls
02-27-2010, 05:09 AM
Only a few moments to opening face-off.

Who is watching? ila, I know you're around.

shadows, are you stuck at work?

dauls, are you up in the middle of the night with those wacko BBC guys?

Go Canada!

I saw the game last night, the Beeb even tried their best to show the game in full with actual commentary to accompany the crowd noises.:yes:

The only interruptions to the live action were when the Beeb cut away to show a couple of short-track speed skating races. The rest of the time they limited showing other events to the breaks between periods.:)

Maybe the BBC will do the decent thing on Sunday and show the final uninterrupted, which shouldn't be difficult because all the other events are scheduled to have finished by then.

So Canada were cruising at 3-0, only to end up inches away from conceding an equaliser in they dying seconds against the 6-on-5 Slovaks.

Why do Team Canada do this to their supporters?

Maybe the emotion of seeing the Canadian Women lose the curling final finally hit them half way through the 3rd period, and then the fear of a Canadian double-choke allowed the Slovaks in for that second goal.:eek:

If Canada let the moment get to them on Sunday they can kiss the gold medal goodbye. Team USA appears to be showing no fear.

shadows
02-27-2010, 06:29 AM
Good game, and a deserved win. But no one could score on powerplays. It was predictable that the Canadians would open the scoring soon after surviving that first 5-on-3. The Canadian goalie had a really good game.

Their post match boozing and smoking on the ice was bound to upset :frown::( the IOC suits. I suppose they'd have gotten away with just drinking champagne, but 6-packs and cigars was going too far. :lol:

As was said by one of the Canadian hockey players, if it had been the men who had done it there would have been a heck of a lot less hooplah about it. It was not a big deal to me, but of course the IOC will overreact.

shadows
02-27-2010, 06:30 AM
Sorry fellow hockey fans, but I've been watching the Six Nations Rugby (Wales-France) on BBC, and at half time (France leading 20-0 in Cardiff) I realised the USA-Finland hockey had started.

So I switched over to the BBC's extra channel only to catch the deathly silence that filled the airwaves during the break between the 1st and 2nd periods of the hockey.:no:

The BBC and their now infamous hockey-novice commentator have a habit of walking away from the mic at the end of the period and leaving dead air. All we're left with are the mumbles of the crowd and a long shot of the Zamboni machines circling the ice.:frown:

There wasn't even a caption on the screen to show the USA lead 6-0. The BBC can be really crap sometimes.:yes:

I had to return to the rugby because a demolition of the Welsh is simply too entertaining for me to miss. :lol:

I hoped the French would totally humiliate the Welsh in the second half, but the Welsh fought back to 20-13, before a couple of French penalties and a last minute Welsh try meant the game ended 26-20. Still I'm happy the Welsh lost.:) Tomorrow it's England-Ireland, should be a close game.

Now the rugby has finished it's back to the hockey for the 3rd period. How the hell did the second period remain scoreless?:confused:

Be thankful all you heard was dead silence and not a huge fart due to his eating a El Grande Burpo Burrito.;):lol::p

shadows
02-27-2010, 06:35 AM
If Canada let the moment get to them on Sunday they can kiss the gold medal goodbye. Team USA appears to be showing no fear.

Honestly, I think the US game was more of Finland forgetting to show up than the US dominating. Giving up 6 goals on 13 shots(even Nabokov wasn't that bad against Canada the other night) is pathetic! I think that the Canada/US game will be a doozy! Hopefully it will be finished(and the good guys victorious;)) by the time I have to go to work on Sunday.

ila
02-27-2010, 10:31 AM
......Their post match boozing and smoking on the ice was bound to upset :frown::( the IOC suits. I suppose they'd have gotten away with just drinking champagne, but 6-packs and cigars was going too far. :lol:

As was said by one of the Canadian hockey players, if it had been the men who had done it there would have been a heck of a lot less hooplah about it. It was not a big deal to me, but of course the IOC will overreact.

I read in the paper this morning that the IOC are going to do an investigation of this incident. I also read that the celebration took place after all the spectators had left the arena and that the incident was reported to the IOC by a member of the media. It looks like people really are making a big deal out of nothing and that the IOC members really don't have a life. After all, one of the most heinous crimes that one can commit is to celebrate a win in a sports competition. :p:eek::confused:

smc
02-27-2010, 11:09 AM
I read in the paper this morning that the IOC are going to do an investigation of this incident. I also read that the celebration took place after all the spectators had left the arena and that the incident was reported to the IOC by a member of the media. It looks like people really are making a big deal out of nothing and that the IOC members really don't have a life. After all, one of the most heinous crimes that one can commit is to celebrate a win in a sports competition. :p:eek::confused:

I have a theory. This investigation is being pushed behind the scenes by jealous, vindictive Americans who think the cigars being smoked were Cuban and who can't stand the fact that Canadians can get them while Americans cannot. It's a proxy for all the many other things about Canada that are better than the United States.

ila
02-27-2010, 11:36 AM
I have a theory. This investigation is being pushed behind the scenes by jealous, vindictive Americans who think the cigars being smoked were Cuban and who can't stand the fact that Canadians can get them while Americans cannot. It's a proxy for all the many other things about Canada that are better than the United States.

It's interesting that you should mention Cuban cigars. The latest political cartoon about the incident had one of the hockey players saying almost the same thing that you wrote.

It's still much ado about nothing.

smc
02-27-2010, 06:01 PM
It's interesting that you should mention Cuban cigars. The latest political cartoon about the incident had one of the hockey players saying almost the same thing that you wrote.

It's still much ado about nothing.

I assure you I thought of that all by myself. :yes:

Here's something on a lighter note from Olympics hockey. I actually saw this.

MSNBC's Olympic Update show aired a live phone interview with a guy claiming to be Ryan Miller, the U.S. goalie. He talked about making 42 saves in the win over Canada because "everything just clicks sometimes," and he went on to say that ""we're feeling very confident." Further, he said the U.S. team was "almost guaranteeing" a win tomorrow.

It was a prank!

Later that evening, during a news program, an MSNBC reporter at the Olympics interrupted the program to chat with the real Ryan Miller, who said friends and agents had been calling and texting him asking he had really "become that cocky." He said, no, "I'm really laid back." The prank was revealed, MSNBC apologized, and Ryan Miller said, "no problem, I appreciate a good prank."

ila
02-27-2010, 06:08 PM
I assure you I thought of that all by myself. :yes:

Oops, sorry, I wasn't trying to infer anything. The political cartoon that I was referring to was published in a local newspaper and created by the artist at that paper.

smc
02-27-2010, 06:16 PM
Oops, sorry, I wasn't trying to infer anything. The political cartoon that I was referring to was published in a local newspaper and created by the artist at that paper.

Oops, sorry, I didn't think you were trying to infer anything. As the young'uns say, "It's all good." :)

shadows
02-28-2010, 06:31 AM
I read in the paper this morning that the IOC are going to do an investigation of this incident. I also read that the celebration took place after all the spectators had left the arena and that the incident was reported to the IOC by a member of the media. It looks like people really are making a big deal out of nothing and that the IOC members really don't have a life. After all, one of the most heinous crimes that one can commit is to celebrate a win in a sports competition. :p:eek::confused:

Sounds like it's a case of the Media wanting to sell more papers with a "created controversy".:rolleyes:

ila
02-28-2010, 09:17 AM
Sounds like it's a case of the Media wanting to sell more papers with a "created controversy".:rolleyes:

Actually I think it's more a case of sour grapes.

ila
02-28-2010, 11:54 AM
Just over two hours before the Canada - US game. Have all the hockey fans got their spot in front of their tv reserved?

smc
02-28-2010, 11:57 AM
Just over two hours before the Canada - US game. Have all the hockey fans got their spot in front of their tv reserved?

I wish all of us hockey fans on this Forum who are rooting for Team Canada -- including this American -- could watch together. I would have gladly hosted. I have a feeling that it would end up being a really great afternoon, regardless of the outcome.

ila
02-28-2010, 11:59 AM
I wish all of us hockey fans on this Forum who are rooting for Team Canada -- including this American -- could watch together. I would have gladly hosted. I have a feeling that it would end up being a really great afternoon, regardless of the outcome.

That would be a great afternoon; hockey, friendship, and refreshments.

smc
02-28-2010, 12:03 PM
That would be a great afternoon; hockey, friendship, and refreshments.

Yes, I forgot to mention refreshments. Of the liquid variety, I would introduce those of you unfamiliar with great beers from Canada (i.e., not Molson) to the great brews from Unibroue and Brasserie Dieu de Ciel in Montreal, and Wild Rose in Calgary. I "jump through hoops" to get the guys in Calgary to send me their beer, which isn't sold in the United States.

And, ila, if dauls were there you and I could talk about the game in German, and (unless he knows German) the commentary would be just as useless as the BBC commentary he keeps telling us about in English! :lol:

smc
02-28-2010, 02:02 PM
Jeez, I hope Team Canada is better matched against Team USA than Don Cherry of the CBC's terrible match of a burgundy velour sport coat and the ugliest maple leaf tie I've ever seen in my life.:eek::eek::eek:

smc
02-28-2010, 02:10 PM
Help!!!

Jeremy Roenick on NBC just declared this is going to be "the greatest hockey game ever" -- and it hasn't even started. And then I had to watch a segment on Lake Placid, when winning the gold was as much about the Cold War as it was about hockey. This American jingoism is precisely why I wish I could be watching the CBC coverage of the game ... even if it means an occasional peek again at Don Cherry's outfit!

ila
02-28-2010, 02:19 PM
^ The game is on CTV so no Don Cherry. Although I wouldn't mind listening to Don Cherry's analysis of the game.

smc
02-28-2010, 02:20 PM
^ The game is on CTV so no Don Cherry. Although I wouldn't mind listening to Don Cherry's analysis of the game.

Listening, yes, but seeing ... oh my god, ila, the sheer horror of his jacket and tie!

ila
02-28-2010, 02:22 PM
Listening, yes, but seeing ... oh my god, ila, the sheer horror of his jacket and tie!

I like to check out Hockey Night in Canada just to see what he is wearing.

smc
02-28-2010, 02:29 PM
I like to check out Hockey Night in Canada just to see what he is wearing.

I'd only heard him but had never seen him. I didn't realize that the jacket/tie combo I saw a short while ago was actually rather tame. A Google search just informed me that he is a consistently frightening dresser and that you, ila, are not alone among people who tune in just to see what he is wearing.

I'm glad I can touch type. I can watch the game without ever looking at the keyboard!

ila
02-28-2010, 02:35 PM
I'd only heard him but had never seen him. I didn't realize that the jacket/tie combo I saw a short while ago was actually rather tame. A Google search just informed me that he is a consistently frightening dresser and that you, ila, are not alone among people who tune in just to see what he is wearing.

I'm glad I can touch type. I can watch the game without ever looking at the keyboard!

It is quite an action packed game. It looks like we're going to have do shadows job today and keep the site updatedon the game.

smc, did you see Don Cherry when he used to coach Boston? I'm sure he dressed more conservatively back in those days.

I also saw that Don Cherry is predicting that Canada will win today's game 5 -3

smc
02-28-2010, 02:36 PM
GOAL!!!

Team Canada 1
USA 0

ila
02-28-2010, 02:37 PM
Update. 1 - 0 for Canada. Goal scored by Jonathon Toews (of the Blackhawks) with 7:10 left in the third period.

smc
02-28-2010, 02:38 PM
smc, did you see Don Cherry when he used to coach Boston? I'm sure he dressed more conservatively back in those days.

I also saw that Don Cherry is predicting that Canada will win today's game 5 -3

Yes, I meant I hadn't seen him as a broadcaster in Canada. When he was here he was a little bit crazy, but nothing like the jacket I just saw on Google: white with maple leafs all over it.

I think his prediction is off. It's tough to imagine 8 goals being scored in this game. The defensemen on both sides are setting up textbook-style.

GRH
02-28-2010, 02:43 PM
Why are there Americans rooting for Team Canada?

ila
02-28-2010, 03:05 PM
I see Michael J. Fox is in the crowd at the arena and he's wearing a Team Canada hat.

smc
02-28-2010, 03:13 PM
I don't see how the USA has a chance after the perfect execution of that goal just now.

Canada 2-0!!!

smc
02-28-2010, 03:14 PM
Maybe that prank caller ought to be put in at goal for Team USA (see my post from last night).

ila
02-28-2010, 03:16 PM
I don't see how the USA has a chance after the perfect execution of that goal just now.

Canada 2-0!!!

That was an excellent goal. There's still 1 1/2 periods to go so nothing is wrapped up yet.

smc
02-28-2010, 03:25 PM
That was an excellent goal. There's still 1 1/2 periods to go so nothing is wrapped up yet.

True that. It's now 2-1. I should have been more specific. I meant that if Team Canada continued to play as they were, and if the USA couldn't do anything better than 1-and-done shots on goal during their power plays.

Trying to watch and "blog" at the same time has its limitations.

ila
02-28-2010, 03:45 PM
True that. It's now 2-1. I should have been more specific. I meant that if Team Canada continued to play as they were, and if the USA couldn't do anything better than 1-and-done shots on goal during their power plays.

Trying to watch and "blog" at the same time has its limitations.

I missed the goal as I had to leave, but I did hear the noise on tv as I was leaving the room. Now Canada better get down to business if they don't want to lose this game.

smc
02-28-2010, 03:49 PM
I missed the goal as I had to leave, but I did hear the noise on tv as I was leaving the room. Now Canada better get down to business if they don't want to lose this game.

Luongo is starting to look a bit tentative goal, and Ryan Miller seems to be shaking off whatever nervousness he had earlier in the game and is showing the form of the past games in these Olympics. The momentum has, I am sorry to say, shifted to Team USA. The second intermission could not have come at a better time.

GRH
02-28-2010, 04:26 PM
Now the game goes to overtime!

smc
02-28-2010, 05:17 PM
(I lost my Internet connection for a long while.)

What a game! Ryan Miller definitely deserves the MVP award. But what a game. As Mike Millbury said as a commentator for NBC, "If you didn't like that third period then you just don't really like hockey."

And now back to watching my Bruins fail.

ila
02-28-2010, 05:20 PM
That game was really intense. The third period and overtime were nailbiters all the way. It was a gold medal game worthy of the name.

GRH
02-28-2010, 05:27 PM
Yeah, I couldn't believe the US tied the game with less than 30 seconds left on the clock. Canada then commenced to outshoot the US in overtime.

ila
02-28-2010, 05:31 PM
Yeah, I couldn't believe the US tied the game with less than 30 seconds left on the clock. Canada then commenced to outshoot the US in overtime.

I think Canada woke up during the break between the third period and overtime. Overtime was really good, fast, hard hockey. They played the way hockey should be played; skate, pass, and shoot. Crosby's goal was really nice. Miller didn't have much of a chance to stop the puck.

smc
02-28-2010, 05:32 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but that was just exhausting. I feel like I just competed in a cross-country skiing event! Off to make some dinner.

ila
02-28-2010, 05:34 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but that was just exhausting. I feel like I just competed in a cross-country skiing event! Off to make some dinner.

You'd better have a cold beer to go with that dinner.

Natalie_J
02-28-2010, 06:04 PM
I don't really pay that much attention to ice hockey normally, but I thoroughly enjoyed that game. If it's all as good as that I shall have to take more notice in future.

GRH
02-28-2010, 07:20 PM
Not all games are that close, nor do they usually have so much at stake. That was an exceptionally good game. But then again, as long as the score of a hockey game is within a point or two, anything can happen, and the game can remain exciting. About the only time I snooze through a hockey game is when one team has a runaway lead like 4-0...It's hard for me to stay interested in matches like that. Hockey is a great sport...Easily my second favorite, second only to American Football.

smc
02-28-2010, 07:49 PM
You'd better have a cold beer to go with that dinner.

Thanks, ila, for the suggestion. In fact, I celebrated with a Trois Pistoles, from Unibroue in Montreal. I am a bona fide beer geek, but if someone put a gun to my head and said that I could only drink one beer for the rest of my life, that would be the one. And it went down very well with the lingering Sid the Kid goal replaying in my head.

I heard Al Michaels call Crosby the "Gretzky of the 21st century" a short while ago. Thoughts?

ila
02-28-2010, 09:43 PM
......I heard Al Michaels call Crosby the "Gretzky of the 21st century" a short while ago. Thoughts?

I think it's premature to start making a prediction like that.

dauls
02-28-2010, 10:18 PM
I think Canada woke up during the break between the third period and overtime. Overtime was really good, fast, hard hockey. They played the way hockey should be played; skate, pass, and shoot. Crosby's goal was really nice. Miller didn't have much of a chance to stop the puck.

The 4-on-4 rule had something to do with the exciting hockey we saw during overtime. Maybe 4-on-4 is the future of the NHL.:eek:

All the expectation on Crosby's shoulders, I suppose it was obvious that he'd score the winner and become a national hero. But he needs at least another 5 years in the NHL and a couple more Stanley Cups before anyone should even start to compare him with Gretzky.

I was out earlier today and had to record the game (set the timer to overrun by 90 minutes to make sure I caught any OT or a shootout). The curse of the dreaded 2-0 lead almost struck again. What is it about not hanging onto 2-0 leads? And finally 2-2 with only twenty-four seconds left, it's more like a Hollywood movie than an Olympic final, though in the movie the USA would've scored the OT goal.

Thankfully today was the first Canada match when my 'favourite' commentator didn't use his "Nash, Crosby but no Stills" joke.:no::frown:

smc
02-28-2010, 10:32 PM
I think it's premature to start making a prediction like that.

Of course it is! But you know some Americans: they believe that all they have to do is say it, and it will be so. Arrogance knows no bounds!

smc
02-28-2010, 10:35 PM
The 4-on-4 rule had something to do with the exciting hockey we saw during overtime. Maybe 4-on-4 is the future of the NHL.:eek:

All the expectation on Crosby's shoulders, I suppose it was obvious that he'd score the winner and become a national hero. But he needs at least another 5 years in the NHL and a couple more Stanley Cups before anyone should even start to compare him with Gretzky.

I was out earlier today and had to record the game (set the timer to overrun by 90 minutes to make sure I caught any OT or a shootout). The curse of the dreaded 2-0 lead almost struck again. What is it about not hanging onto 2-0 leads? And finally 2-2 with only twenty-four seconds left, it's more like a Hollywood movie than an Olympic final, though in the movie the USA would've scored the OT goal.

Thankfully today was the first Canada match when my 'favourite' commentator didn't use his "Nash, Crosby but no Stills" joke.:no::frown:

I like the 4-on-4 rule, too. It made for an amazing OT.

dauls, you left something out of the Hollywood movie. There would have been some invented connection between Team Canada and either Russian spies or Al-Quaeda. Otherwise, simply beating the team from the north (which, after all, many stupid Americans think is just a very cold part of the USA) wouldn't have been very interesting.

As for the "Nash, Crosby, but no Stills" guy, he needs to spend some time in a jail cell with David Crosby. That would shut him up fast.

k.sucks.you
03-01-2010, 01:25 AM
I'm proud of the effort today. No shame on the USA for the effort or the result. Tournament MVP. Youngest team. Well disciplined. The USA will be back to win it in 4 years.

Congratulations to Canada. The best team won. :respect: Skill beat will (although they had plenty of will too).

The silver lining is that four Sharks will come back energized and ready to win Lord Stanley's Cup.

Captn Sacto
03-01-2010, 07:37 PM
Congratulations to Canada. The best team won. :respect: Skill beat will (although they had plenty of will too).

The silver lining is that four Sharks will come back energized and ready to win Lord Stanley's Cup.

If they are not completely worn out, because there is no rest for the wicked. One game tonight and a full schedule of games tomorrow. Hope you are right about the sharks, but I don't feel near as confident as before the OLympics. The key to the cup is goal tending. Everyone said the sharks choked last year, but the main reason the ducks beat them last year was goaltending. The shark's out shot the ducks in all but one game, but Nabby was not real sharp. I didn't think he played nearly as well all season as he had previously. This year he has been stellar, but the biggest game for him this year against Canada and he is pulled. Makes you wonder if he mentally tough enough. He has had a few bad games this year and has bounced back each time, will see when the real season starts.

km1
03-01-2010, 08:11 PM
I love goooooold!

shadows
03-01-2010, 09:20 PM
I could have sworn I posted that I thought that Canada would win 3-2(I know that I told a fellow guard it would be that score, while he said that it would be 6-1 US...he said that to jinx them even though he has Ryan Miller in his NHL Hockey Pool).

Or perhaps I said that to one of my friends here via PM.

Either way, great game! Both teams played their hearts out and the game could not have been any more exciting! Congratulations to both teams for giving us fans(and our respective countries) a game that was nerve-wracking right to the end.:respect:

I will admit that I only watched the third period and overtime(I woke up late...darned midnights!), but it was still worth watching. I cringed when Kane knocked the puck off Crosby's stick during the breakaway(I think that Crosby would have scored if Kane hadn't done that) as I had a gut feeling that the US would tie it up. Darn gut feeling! You cannot fault Luongo on either of the goals(the first was a deflection, and the second had 3 US players in front of him...where the heck was the defense?). They both played well in this game.

I think that Luongo proved that he can be a big-game goaltender after his performance in the Olympics.

One thing I must talk about. I, among many other Canadian fans, have bashed the play of Chris Pronger for this entire Olympics. I will admit that. I will also admit that I admired Pronger during the playing of the Canadian National Anthem after the medals were handed out. Most players sang the anthem, a couple you could tell were nervous about it(they probably are like me, and do not like singing in public), but Chris Pronger was the loudest of them all! You could tell he was proud to be Canadian, and that put a smile on my face. Good on ya, Chris!:respect:

smc
03-01-2010, 10:48 PM
I heard it today on the subway, and then again at lunch in a pub, and then from a student at school, and then again on the subway home, and then from a sportscaster on a Boston TV station:

"The Canadians won because they are NHL players."

In almost every case, I pointed out that the entire roster of both teams were NHL players, but for Americans, they have to find an excuse. So out with the logic, and in with the rationalizations. Even completely illogical rationalizations.

One guy said, "Yeah, that's true, but I don't think they should let the NHLers play."

Had Team USA won, I know he would not have had the same opinion.

For the few of you who asked why I (an American) rooted for Canada, this is part of the explanation. Americans! Ugh!

shadows
03-01-2010, 11:27 PM
Actually I think it's more a case of sour grapes.

Speaking of sour grapes...:rolleyes:

From Slam Sports on Canoe.ca.

Pravda questions Canada
Accuse Olympic hosts of cheating


When the Olympic flag was passed on to Russian officials at the conclusion of Vancouver?s spectacular Olympic closing ceremonies, maybe someone should have handed over a few crying towels as well.

Given all the whining coming out of Russia, the host country for the 2014 Winter Games, they probably could have used some.

Having watched its Olympic team underachieve the past two weeks, the lead column Monday in the Russian-based publication Pravda ripped the 2010 Games, even pondering the unsubstantiated accusation that the gold-medal Canadian men's hockey team might have been using performance-enhancing substances.

Said Pravda: "Doesn't it feel great to slam the door behind you as you walk out, stick up the middle finger using the palm of the left hand on the upper right forearm for extra leverage and blow a giant raspberry? That is exactly how it feels as Russia leaves Vancouver after disappointing Games with a question: was the Canadian ice hockey team on drugs?"

Where did that come from? Do the Russians know something that the IOC's drug testers don't? Was there tomfoolery going on while potential Team Canada players were peeing in bottles in the months leading up to arguably the greatest hockey tournament we have ever seen? A little switching of the specimen bottles, perhaps?



If that's the case, we have a question for Pravda: Where?s the evidence to back up those allegations?

Continued Pravda: "The middle finger and the giant raspberry go to the Canadian ice hockey team. Were they on drugs the day they beat Russia so overwhelmingly? These days, and since the USSR's 8-1 thrashing of Canada in the early 80s, Canada-Russia ice hockey games are always very closely fought events and there has not been such a monumental difference between the two sides. Very strange, the more so since the same Team Canada (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean) put in an extremely lacklustre performance against lowly Slovakia and was lucky to reach Sunday's final. And for anyone who is about to be shocked by the question, one supposes it is OK to make cheap and gratuitous references to Russians and doping, but when the ball rolls back home it hurts. Right?"

In the end, it sounds like a lot of sour grapes -- or, in Russian, "????? ????????."

Unless proof of Canadian cheating is provided, we'll stick with the premise that Team Canada crushed Russia 7-3 in the quarterfinal because the Russians were outscored, outhit, outskated, outclassed and outworked.

The stage had been set for Alexander Ovechkin to prove to Canada and the rest of the hockey world that he was the best. Didn't happen. In fact, on the day the gold medal hockey game was held, the only sweat produced by The Great Eight came from participating in the closing ceremonies.

And, by the way, how do you think Alexander The Great feels after watching his rival Sidney Crosby a) beat him in the Stanley Cup playoffs; b) win a Stanley Cup; and b) score an Olympic golden goal on home soil, igniting a coast-to-coast celebration?

All in the span of 10 months.

According to the Pravda column, the entire Russian contingent may have been the target of some fiendish scheme aimed at curtailing their medal count.

"We will never know, will we?" asked Pravda about the potential of the Canadians being on drugs. "We will never know, because the officials at Vancouver predictably did not mete out to the Canadians the shockingly humiliating treatment given to the Russian skier Natalya Korosteleva, asked to produce a urine sample during the break between the quarter-and semi-finals of her event. Had she complied, she would not have had time to enter the semis. And such was the hounding of the Russian athletes that there are rumours many refused to eat for fear their food would be laced with steroids."

Lacing their chow with drugs? Quite the conspiracy theory.

By slagging the Games and the Vancouver area, the Russians are walking on thin ice. Criticize if you like. It?s called freedom of speech. But you certainly are setting the bar higher when the world congregates in Sochi, Russia in 2014.

When you rip others, you expose yourself to be equally slagged. And, after evaluating and dissecting each and every wart of the 2010 Vancouver Games -- even when there didn't seem to be any there at times -- you can bet that any hiccups will be that much more magnified in Sochi.

Especially by many of the so-called experts and observers who considered Vancouver 2010 to be one of the most popular and successful Olympics of all time.


So rather than blame the Russian team for deciding to pull a disappearing act, this "newspaper" chooses to slag the Canadian team instead. Classy!:rolleyes::no::rolleyes:

shadows
03-01-2010, 11:28 PM
I heard it today on the subway, and then again at lunch in a pub, and then from a student at school, and then again on the subway home, and then from a sportscaster on a Boston TV station:

"The Canadians won because they are NHL players."

In almost every case, I pointed out that the entire roster of both teams were NHL players, but for Americans, they have to find an excuse. So out with the logic, and in with the rationalizations. Even completely illogical rationalizations.

One guy said, "Yeah, that's true, but I don't think they should let the NHLers play."

Had Team USA won, I know he would not have had the same opinion.

For the few of you who asked why I (an American) rooted for Canada, this is part of the explanation. Americans! Ugh!

I could be mistaken, but wasn't the American team made up of all NHL players as well?:confused:

smc
03-02-2010, 12:05 AM
I could be mistaken, but wasn't the American team made up of all NHL players as well?:confused:

Yes, that's the point I was making. Read again, and shadows, man, GET SOME SLEEP! :yes:

shadows
03-02-2010, 12:22 AM
Yes, that's the point I was making. Read again, and shadows, man, GET SOME SLEEP! :yes:

Sleep not required, but paying more attention would be a good thing.:blush::lol:

dauls
03-02-2010, 11:41 AM
From Slam Sports on Canoe.ca.

Pravda questions Canada
Accuse Olympic hosts of cheating



Remember when the Soviet Union and the rest of the old Eastern Block (especially East Germany) were used to winning scores of medals and topping the Medals Table while pumped full of performance-enhancing drugs.

Well their logic follows that the countries who now win the most medals, must be doing today what they were doing in the 60s, 70s, 80s and possibly the 90s. Hence their accusations this week.

smc
03-02-2010, 11:47 AM
Remember when the Soviet Union and the rest of the old Eastern Block (especially East Germany) were used to winning scores of medals and topping the Medals Table while pumped full of performance-enhancing drugs.

Well their logic follows that the countries who now win the most medals, must be doing today what they were doing in the 60s, 70s, 80s and possibly the 90s. Hence their accusations this week.

I've heard that some of the Canadian players were, in fact, pumped full of poutine. Have you seen what that can do to your testicles? :lol:

shadows
03-02-2010, 12:18 PM
I've heard that some of the Canadian players were, in fact, pumped full of poutine. Have you seen what that can do to your testicles? :lol:

*looks down to see if testicles are full of poutine*:eek:

:lol::p:lol:

smc
03-02-2010, 12:30 PM
*looks down to see if testicles are full of poutine*:eek:

:lol::p:lol:

Hold on a sec. You mean it's not cheese curd and gravy coating those fries?

shadows
03-02-2010, 12:37 PM
Hold on a sec. You mean it's not cheese curd and gravy coating those fries?

Nope.:p:lol:

shadows
03-02-2010, 12:39 PM
Here is the score from the game played on March 1st:

1. Detroit beat Colorado 3-2. A good first game for the Wings, perhaps they are healthy enough to give another run for the playoffs this year(darn;)). With this win they bumped Calgary out of 8th and took their place.:)

smc
03-02-2010, 12:39 PM
Nope.:p:lol:

I might have to rethink my opinion of poutine.

Bruins and Habs tonight. I think it will be a letdown after Olympic play!

shadows
03-02-2010, 12:41 PM
I might have to rethink my opinion of poutine.

Bruins and Habs tonight. I think it will be a letdown after Olympic play!

The difference(if Thomas ends up being in net for Boston, that is) is that Thomas is rested as he never played in net for the US, while Halak played in net for Slovakia. So Thomas should theoretically be more rested for tonight's game.

Toronto has Carolina tonight. Oh boy! That should be a real humdinger.:confused:

And what's the matter, smc? Didn't you like the taste of my poutine?:eek:

ila
03-02-2010, 05:12 PM
Speaking of sour grapes...:rolleyes:

From Slam Sports on Canoe.ca.

Pravda questions Canada
Accuse Olympic hosts of cheating........

(sorry for deleting so much of your quote, shadows, but I did it in the interest of brevity.)

Pravda should be renamed njet Pravda. It was always the organ of the former soviet government and never did live up to its name.

I'd like to know how steroids could be put in the food that only the Russians would get. When there are a few thousand athletes to feed how those that want to put steroids in the food know what any particular Russian would eat and at what time any particular Russian would show up to eat. How also would anyone be able to slip steroids into the food so that only a targeted athlete would get it? It's all just one big case of "penis envy" with a real nice whine to wash it down.

ila
03-02-2010, 05:22 PM
Remember when the Soviet Union and the rest of the old Eastern Block (especially East Germany) were used to winning scores of medals and topping the Medals Table while pumped full of performance-enhancing drugs.

Well their logic follows that the countries who now win the most medals, must be doing today what they were doing in the 60s, 70s, 80s and possibly the 90s. Hence their accusations this week.

I saw a documentary not too long ago about the doping that used to happen to the East German women. A lot of the women who were given drugs were interviewed. The doping on them started when they were still in their early teens and were injected by their coaches, doctors, etc. They were told not to worry because everything was okay. As it turned out everything was not okay and these women are still paying the price in health problems to this very day.

shadows
03-02-2010, 09:04 PM
(sorry for deleting so much of your quote, shadows, but I did it in the interest of brevity.)

Pravda should be renamed njet Pravda. It was always the organ of the former soviet government and never did live up to its name.

I'd like to know how steroids could be put in the food that only the Russians would get. When there are a few thousand athletes to feed how those that want to put steroids in the food know what any particular Russian would eat and at what time any particular Russian would show up to eat. How also would anyone be able to slip steroids into the food so that only a targeted athlete would get it? It's all just one big case of "penis envy" with a real nice whine to wash it down.

No worries ila.:)

Did you hear that the President of Russia wants all the people that were in charge of the Russian contingent of athletes to either quit or they will get fired. All of them. That is why I am glad that I live in Canada. Can you imagine if our Prime Minister tried something like that?:eek:

And it would take time for the level of steroids they were discovered to have to develop. It wouldn't immediately show up from "contaminated food" like they tried to say. Bullplop!

ila
03-02-2010, 09:34 PM
Did you hear that the President of Russia wants all the people that were in charge of the Russian contingent of athletes to either quit or they will get fired. All of them. That is why I am glad that I live in Canada. Can you imagine if our Prime Minister tried something like that?:eek:


Yes, I heard that. I had a good laugh. If anything it will probably force a review of how they can do better for the next winter Olympics, which Russia is hosting.

shadows
03-02-2010, 09:42 PM
Yes, I heard that. I had a good laugh. If anything it will probably force a review of how they can do better for the next winter Olympics, which Russia is hosting.

I have a feeling the 2014 Olympics are going to be a cluster:censored:.:eek:

(too many egos involved)

ila
03-02-2010, 09:59 PM
I have a feeling the 2014 Olympics are going to be a cluster:censored:.:eek:

(too many egos involved)

It should be interesting. The site is near a war zone. Having said that though I would like to be able to attend those games. The Caucasus is a very interesting area and the scenery I've heard is something else.

shadows
03-02-2010, 10:08 PM
It should be interesting. The site is near a war zone. Having said that though I would like to be able to attend those games. The Caucasus is a very interesting area and the scenery I've heard is something else.

I would also have loved to be able to go, but not just for the Olympics or scenery. I have a friend that lives there, but we have lost touch. I am worried that something may have happened, but it is not like I can check and see since it is so far away(unless I get Sarah Palin to strain her peepers and check it out for me;)).

ila
03-02-2010, 10:24 PM
I would also have loved to be able to go, but not just for the Olympics or scenery. I have a friend that lives there, but we have lost touch. I am worried that something may have happened, but it is not like I can check and see since it is so far away(unless I get Sarah Palin to strain her peepers and check it out for me;)).

Sarah can only see Russia from her home.:)

shadows
03-02-2010, 10:40 PM
Sarah can only see Russia from her home.:)

She got an upgrade.;)

dauls
03-02-2010, 11:47 PM
I saw a documentary not too long ago about the doping that used to happen to the East German women. A lot of the women who were given drugs were interviewed. The doping on them started when they were still in their early teens and were injected by their coaches, doctors, etc. They were told not to worry because everything was okay. As it turned out everything was not okay and these women are still paying the price in health problems to this very day.

The East Germans were a crafty bunch. Stasi files give details of all the athletes doped and all those that failed the secret doping tests that were performed inside East Germany. Any athlete testing positive was refused permission to travel to overseas competition, and all failed results were hidden from the IAAF and the IOC.

Because of this only one East German athlete failed a doping test in competition, Ilona Slupianek, a shot putter from the Berlin Dynamo Club, was stripped of her gold medal after testing positive for steroids at the European Cup in 1977.


Heidi Krieger:
Heidi was an East German shot putter who was invited to the prestigious Dynamo Sports Club and Boarding School in East Berlin at age thirteen in 1979. Soon after arriving the coaches started giving her bright blue pills that they told her and her parents were vitamins.

Almost immediately, her body began to change, her muscles expanded and her face, nose and hands started to enlarge. Her mood also went haywire (depression, aggression, etc.), hair sprouted across her stomach and face, her voice became deeper and her libido swung violently.

Coaches again said they were a side effects of the extra training and would be short-lived. Anyone who voiced doubts or concerns was told that they would be punished if they persisted with questioning the wisdom of their coaches.

The daily dose of pills was gradually increased and 'glucose' injections were given.

At age 20 in 1986 she won gold at the European Championships, but she was unable to cope with crippling mood swings and chronic pain. She retired in 1990.

In 1997 Heidi underwent Sex Reassignment Surgery and changed her name to Andreas.

Although Andreas Krieger's unease over his sexual identity pre-dated the doping programme, he says that the androgenic abuse left him with little choice but to have a sex-change operation. "I had no sympathy with my body, it had changed beyond all recognition," he says. "It was as though they had killed Heidi. Becoming Andreas was the next logical step."

He then hoped for justice against those who had wreaked havoc with his life. In May 2002, H?ppner and Ewald, the masterminds of the doping programme, were brought before a court in Berlin to face charges of actual bodily harm. More than 140 athletes testified. H?ppner and Ewald were found guilty but only received sentences of 22 months (suspended) and 18 months probation. Krieger was happy with the verdict, but not the lenient sentences.

At the hearing Andreas met Ute Krause (a talented female swimmer) who also testified. They have since married and they help each other cope with the depression, etc. that resulted from their doping during the 1980s.


Other East German athletes whose lives were wrecked by doping

George Sievers: Collapsed and died, aged 16, at poolside in 1973 while training. His parents were not given access to the autopsy report. Documents uncovered after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 revealed that his death was probably caused by a ruptured heart from steroid overloads.

Catherine Menschner: Had to retire early from swimming because of complications from steroid injections. She suffered permanent damage to her spine and reproductive organs.

Birgit Heukrodt: A swimming champion who was diagnosed with a liver tumour in 1993. She became a renowned surgeon.

Christiane Knacke-Sommer: The swimmer, testifying at the trial of sports doctors and coaches in 2000, pointed at the defendants, shouting: ?They destroyed my body and my mind. They even poisoned my medal.? She then threw the bronze medal she had won in the 1980 Olympic Games in Moscow to the floor.

Rica Reinisch: Won three swimming gold medals at the Moscow Olympics in 1980, quit the sport in 1982 and was diagnosed with ovarian cysts because of high levels of testosterone in her system. She suffered several miscarriages.

* Excerpts pinched from a Times Online article based on an interview by Matthew Syed (journalist, commentator and two-time GB Olympic competitor).

smc
03-03-2010, 12:18 AM
The difference(if Thomas ends up being in net for Boston, that is) is that Thomas is rested as he never played in net for the US, while Halak played in net for Slovakia. So Thomas should theoretically be more rested for tonight's game.

Toronto has Carolina tonight. Oh boy! That should be a real humdinger.:confused:

And what's the matter, smc? Didn't you like the taste of my poutine?:eek:

I went to the game. Got last-minute tickets. It was Rask in the net, and he did a great job until the 3rd period. Habs 4-1.

Best part of the night, though, other than the drinking binge at pub after the game, was the subway ride in. At one stop, about 15 Habs fans got on. I started speaking French to them, so they thought I was a Bostonian Canadiens fan. We talked for a few minutes, I shared my support for Team Canada in the Olympics, and then I hit them with a zinger: "Your Habs will be crushed tonight." And I used Quebecois slang. You should have seen the looks on their faces. Priceless.

Too bad I was SO, SO wrong. :lol:

shadows
03-03-2010, 02:13 AM
I went to the game. Got last-minute tickets. It was Rask in the net, and he did a great job until the 3rd period. Habs 4-1.

Best part of the night, though, other than the drinking binge at pub after the game, was the subway ride in. At one stop, about 15 Habs fans got on. I started speaking French to them, so they thought I was a Bostonian Canadiens fan. We talked for a few minutes, I shared my support for Team Canada in the Olympics, and then I hit them with a zinger: "Your Habs will be crushed tonight." And I used Quebecois slang. You should have seen the looks on their faces. Priceless.

Too bad I was SO, SO wrong. :lol:

They were probably hoping to see you on the subway ride back, so they could laugh hardily at you.;):lol:

shadows
03-03-2010, 02:14 AM
The East Germans were a crafty bunch. Stasi files give details of all the athletes doped and all those that failed the secret doping tests that were performed inside East Germany. Any athlete testing positive was refused permission to travel to overseas competition, and all failed results were hidden from the IAAF and the IOC.

Because of this only one East German athlete failed a doping test in competition, Ilona Slupianek, a shot putter from the Berlin Dynamo Club, was stripped of her gold medal after testing positive for steroids at the European Cup in 1977.


Heidi Krieger:
Heidi was an East German shot putter who was invited to the prestigious Dynamo Sports Club and Boarding School in East Berlin at age thirteen in 1979. Soon after arriving the coaches started giving her bright blue pills that they told her and her parents were vitamins.

Almost immediately, her body began to change, her muscles expanded and her face, nose and hands started to enlarge. Her mood also went haywire (depression, aggression, etc.), hair sprouted across her stomach and face, her voice became deeper and her libido swung violently.

Coaches again said they were a side effects of the extra training and would be short-lived. Anyone who voiced doubts or concerns was told that they would be punished if they persisted with questioning the wisdom of their coaches.

The daily dose of pills was gradually increased and 'glucose' injections were given.

At age 20 in 1986 she won gold at the European Championships, but she was unable to cope with crippling mood swings and chronic pain. She retired in 1990.

In 1997 Heidi underwent Sex Reassignment Surgery and changed her name to Andreas.

Although Andreas Krieger's unease over his sexual identity pre-dated the doping programme, he says that the androgenic abuse left him with little choice but to have a sex-change operation. "I had no sympathy with my body, it had changed beyond all recognition," he says. "It was as though they had killed Heidi. Becoming Andreas was the next logical step."

He then hoped for justice against those who had wreaked havoc with his life. In May 2002, H?ppner and Ewald, the masterminds of the doping programme, were brought before a court in Berlin to face charges of actual bodily harm. More than 140 athletes testified. H?ppner and Ewald were found guilty but only received sentences of 22 months (suspended) and 18 months probation. Krieger was happy with the verdict, but not the lenient sentences.

At the hearing Andreas met Ute Krause (a talented female swimmer) who also testified. They have since married and they help each other cope with the depression, etc. that resulted from their doping during the 1980s.


Other East German athletes whose lives were wrecked by doping

George Sievers: Collapsed and died, aged 16, at poolside in 1973 while training. His parents were not given access to the autopsy report. Documents uncovered after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 revealed that his death was probably caused by a ruptured heart from steroid overloads.

Catherine Menschner: Had to retire early from swimming because of complications from steroid injections. She suffered permanent damage to her spine and reproductive organs.

Birgit Heukrodt: A swimming champion who was diagnosed with a liver tumour in 1993. She became a renowned surgeon.

Christiane Knacke-Sommer: The swimmer, testifying at the trial of sports doctors and coaches in 2000, pointed at the defendants, shouting: ?They destroyed my body and my mind. They even poisoned my medal.? She then threw the bronze medal she had won in the 1980 Olympic Games in Moscow to the floor.

Rica Reinisch: Won three swimming gold medals at the Moscow Olympics in 1980, quit the sport in 1982 and was diagnosed with ovarian cysts because of high levels of testosterone in her system. She suffered several miscarriages.

* Excerpts pinched from a Times Online article based on an interview by Matthew Syed (journalist, commentator and two-time GB Olympic competitor).

Thanks for the article, dauls. It shows some of the true victims in all of this.:(

smc
03-03-2010, 09:08 AM
They were probably hoping to see you on the subway ride back, so they could laugh hardily at you.;):lol:

Yeah, if I were lucky. Remember, they were from Montreal, and St-Laurent to boot. So they -- women first -- probably would've kicked my English-is-my-native-tongue, Bruins-loving ass!

shadows
03-03-2010, 10:12 AM
Yeah, if I were lucky. Remember, they were from Montreal, and St-Laurent to boot. So they -- women first -- probably would've kicked my English-is-my-native-tongue, Bruins-loving ass!

Or offered you poutine.:innocent:

ila
03-03-2010, 05:05 PM
Yeah, if I were lucky. Remember, they were from Montreal, and St-Laurent to boot. So they -- women first -- probably would've kicked my English-is-my-native-tongue, Bruins-loving ass!

I rather think they would have bought you a beer. The French Canadians are very hospitable and when you speak Quebecois to them you will be treated like a true friend regardless of your team affiliation.

I have very many good Quebecois friends. They always appreciated my efforts to speak French even with my heavy maudit anglais accent.

BTW, smc, the more beer one has the better one gets when speaking a non-mother tongue language. At least I always thought so after having several beer with good friends.:innocent:

ila
03-03-2010, 05:06 PM
Thanks for the article, dauls. It shows some of the true victims in all of this.:(

I echo shadows words on this, dauls. Thankyou very much.:respect:

smc
03-03-2010, 09:31 PM
I rather think they would have bought you a beer. The French Canadians are very hospitable and when you speak Quebecois to them you will be treated like a true friend regardless of your team affiliation.

I have very many good Quebecois friends. They always appreciated my efforts to speak French even with my heavy maudit anglais accent.

BTW, smc, the more beer one has the better one gets when speaking a non-mother tongue language. At least I always thought so after having several beer with good friends.:innocent:

Thanks, ila. I do pretty damn well without beer, too.

I was really joking about getting my ass kicked. I have a great time whenever I'm in Quebec, where the appreciation for my speaking French is even greater than in France (because of the whole national minority thing).

GRH
03-08-2010, 12:20 PM
Well, my Canadiennes won on Saturday night against LA. And then I caught part of the Detroit vs. Chicago match on Sunday on NBC...A match which ended up being a pretty close game.

shadows
03-08-2010, 11:45 PM
Well, my Canadiennes won on Saturday night against LA. And then I caught part of the Detroit vs. Chicago match on Sunday on NBC...A match which ended up being a pretty close game.

And they won last night against Anaheim! They were down 3-0 and ended up winning 4-3 in the shootout. They are getting hot at just the right time.

Detroit almost blew that game against Chicago! Ladd had a hat trick.

shadows
03-09-2010, 12:39 AM
Only two games of hockey on last night.

1. Dallas beat Washington 4-3 in the shootout. Washington outshot Dallas 52-27, but could not pull away with the victory. Washington had a 2-0 lead and then Dallas scored 3 goals in a row. The Capitals tied it up late in the game to send it to overtime. Nothing was resolved in OT, and Dallas got 2-5 in the shootout to win.

2. LA beat Columbus 6-0. What a freaking ugly game! LA outshot Columbus 35-11 and it was never in doubt. Alexander Frolov had a goal and 3 assists for the Kings. Mike Blunden of Columbus got a 5 minute major for Checking From Behind and also received a Game Misconduct.

dauls
03-09-2010, 03:00 PM
Looks like the Devils are doing their best to miss the playoffs this season. The Devils have dropped 5 points behind the Penguins and are only 12 points above the 9th place Rangers.:frown:

On Sunday the Devils were shutout 2-0 by the NHL's 'worst' team, the Oilers, and that's bad enough. But Brodeur was named one of the game's three star players and the Devils were out-shot 35-22.:no:

I thought the signing of Ilya Kovalchuk was meant to strengthen the Devils' offence.:confused:

Jacques Lemaire added, "the Devils weren't focused." "We simply went through the motions against a team that doesn't win a lot of games." "The Devils didn't put in the work that is needed for a win.":no::frown:

Next up, the Devils host the Rangers on Wednesday...

smc
03-09-2010, 05:14 PM
Looks like the Devils are doing their best to miss the playoffs this season.

dauls, your post makes me wonder: Why is there a hockey team in New Jersey? No wait, that's not exactly my question. What I really want to know is: Why is there a New Jersey?

Of course, the poor play of the Devils could be due to one of the two main features of New Jersey: air pollution and political corruption. Perhaps the players are breathing the air of all the chemical plants near Newark, or perhaps the team is being paid to lose as part of some statewide gambling ring among elected officials. Of course, I'm pretty sure they could just lose on their own.

shadows
03-10-2010, 12:13 AM
Here are the scores from March 9th's games:

1. Toronto beat Boston 4-3 in overtime. Toronto finally won a game! In overtime! I am honestly shocked. Pleased that they finally won, but wished that it didn't happen to a team that a friend is rooting for and is fighting for a playoff spot(something the Leafs stopped doing about 20 games into the season:().

2. Nashville beat Atlanta 2-1. I don't think I could care any less about this game than I already do.

3. Calgary beat Detroit 4-2. This is Calgary's third win in a row, and with the victory they leap over Detroit and take back 8th place(and kick Detroit into ninth).

4. Philadelphia beat the Islanders 3-2. The Flyers came back from a 2-0 deficit and got the much needed 2 points.

5. Montreal beat Tampa Bay 5-3. Montreal is playing some good hockey right now and Scott Gomez is continuing his stellar play of late. He had a goal and two assists in the contest. Steve Stamkos scored his 41st goal of the season(not bad for this being only his second season in the NHL).

6. Florida beat Minnesota 3-2 in a shootout. I thought I could not care any less about a game than I did with the Nashville/Atlanta game, but it looks like I was mistaken.;)

7. Vancouver beat Colorado 6-4. Vancouver stormed back in this one! They were down 4-1 at one point(and I thought that Luongo was going to get pulled again) but they never looked back. They scored the next 5 goals! Samuelsson had a hat-trick on Vancouver's first 3 goals scored, Daniel Sedin had a goal and 2 assists and Henrik Sedin had 3 assists.

8. Ottawa beat Edmonton 4-1. It was close for a while with the two teams being knotted at one goal apiece, but the wheels fell off in the third for the Oilers.

9. Columbus beat Anaheim 5-2. Columbus bounced back from their horrible game the night before against LA. Rick Nash did not play in this game, and is listed as having a "lower body" injury.

Captn Sacto
03-10-2010, 08:21 PM
If you watched the game, what did you do between periods?

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http://www.patspapers.com/blog/item/...l_hockey_game/

smc
03-10-2010, 09:41 PM
Here are the scores from March 9th's games:

1. Toronto beat Boston 4-3 in overtime. Toronto finally won a game! In overtime! I am honestly shocked. Pleased that they finally won, but wished that it didn't happen to a team that a friend is rooting for and is fighting for a playoff spot(something the Leafs stopped doing about 20 games into the season:().

Thanks, friend, for the sentiment, and I'm glad to see your sorry team win for a change. But let's not get a head of ourselves. The Bruins may be stumbling, accidentally, into a playoff spot, but "fighting"? I mean, really, "fighting"? :no::(:frown::eek:

ila
03-10-2010, 10:00 PM
5. Montreal beat Tampa Bay 5-3. Montreal is playing some good hockey right now and Scott Gomez is continuing his stellar play of late. He had a goal and two assists in the contest. Steve Stamkos scored his 41st goal of the season(not bad for this being only his second season in the NHL).


The Olympics break was good for Montreal. They again have the desire to win. Now hopefully they will keep on winning and return Lord Stanley's cup to its proper home.

smc
03-10-2010, 10:08 PM
The Olympics break was good for Montreal. They again have the desire to win. Now hopefully they will keep on winning and return Lord Stanley's cup to its proper home.

I assume you mean Canada, but to be precise wouldn't the "proper home" for Lord Stanley's Cup be Ottawa?

shadows
03-10-2010, 11:31 PM
Thanks, friend, for the sentiment, and I'm glad to see your sorry team win for a change. But let's not get a head of ourselves. The Bruins may be stumbling, accidentally, into a playoff spot, but "fighting"? I mean, really, "fighting"? :no::(:frown::eek:

There will be some fighting going on during March 18th's game. I imagine that Cooke will be getting some teeth knocked out by either Chara or Lucic since Colin Campbell certainly showed his lack of balls again by not giving Cooke a suspension for his blindside hit on Savard. For crying out loud, even Lecavalier and St. Louis thought he should have been suspended! If your peers are disgusted by it, why the hell isn't the person in charge of discipline? Enjoy your smile Cooke, as it won't be the same after that game!:censored:

shadows
03-10-2010, 11:31 PM
I assume you mean Canada, but to be precise wouldn't the "proper home" for Lord Stanley's Cup be Ottawa?

Blasphemy!:eek:

smc
03-10-2010, 11:36 PM
There will be some fighting going on during March 18th's game. I imagine that Cooke will be getting some teeth knocked out by either Chara or Lucic since Colin Campbell certainly showed his lack of balls again by not giving Cooke a suspension for his blindside hit on Savard. For crying out loud, even Lecavalier and St. Louis thought he should have been suspended! If your peers are disgusted by it, why the hell isn't the person in charge of discipline? Enjoy your smile Cooke, as it won't be the same after that game!:censored:

I think you may be right about Cooke, but who says you can't smile without teeth?

shadows
03-10-2010, 11:37 PM
I think you may be right about Cooke, but who says you can't smile without teeth?

Losing his chicklets will be the least of his concerns.;)

transjen
03-11-2010, 01:32 AM
4. Philadelphia beat the Islanders 3-2. The Flyers came back from a 2-0 deficit and got the much needed 2 points.;););)



Geee it's been so long that i have gotten how to do the happy dance
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen

shadows
03-11-2010, 02:54 AM
Geee it's been so long that i have gotten how to do the happy dance
:yes: Jerseygirl Jen

The Flyers are actually doing quite well lately. They can even get home-ice advantage if they continue to play well.;)

transjen
03-11-2010, 02:14 PM
I dout the Flyers get past the first round
:no: Jerseygirl Jen

smc
03-11-2010, 02:42 PM
I dout the Flyers get past the first round
:no: Jerseygirl Jen

Hey, don't be so cynical. I doubt my Bruins even make it into the first round! :(

transjen
03-11-2010, 04:49 PM
To me getting bounced in the first round is the same as not making it in
:eek: Jerseygirl Jen

slav9920
03-11-2010, 04:56 PM
SJ Sharks baby! They disappoint every year in the playoffs, but I love em anyway :yes:

ila
03-11-2010, 05:30 PM
I assume you mean Canada, but to be precise wouldn't the "proper home" for Lord Stanley's Cup be Ottawa?

Nope, I meant that the break was good for Montreal. They are playing better now than before the Olympics.

The proper home for the Stanley Cup is Montreal. It's been there more often than anywhere else and has stayed in Montreal for longer at any one time than anywhere else.;)

shadows
03-11-2010, 11:06 PM
To me getting bounced in the first round is the same as not making it in
:eek: Jerseygirl Jen

At least your team wasn't eliminated immediately after pre-season....darned Leafs.:no::(

shadows
03-11-2010, 11:17 PM
Here are the scores from March 10th's games:

1. Buffalo beat Dallas 5-3. Both goalies looked shaky early on, but Dallas just couldn't put any more pressure on Miller. Dallas only ended up with 20 shots on net while the Sabres had 43. Tomas Vanek scored his 20th goal of the season in this game. It is hard to believe he had so many last season yet only has 20(so far) this year. Talk about a dive in production!

2. New Jersey beat the Rangers 6-3. This was a see-saw battle at the start(leads kept on being given up) and the game was tied 3-3 at one point. Then the wheels fell off for the Rangers. The Rangers managed 3 goals off 19 shots, so it looks like Brodeur wasn't sharp either.
I am not sure how true this is, but Travis Zajac(a Centre on the Devil's) said "I think our top three lines are the best in the league. I'd put us up against anyone." Considering the play of the Devils in the past month or two, I wouldn't necessarily believe what he says. What do Devils fans think about his comment?

3. Washington beat Carolina 4-3 in overtime. Another game where no lead was safe.

4. Chicago beat LA 3-2 in overtime. Patrick Sharp got his 20th and 21st goals of the season. There are a lot of good young players on both teams. I feel that this would be a really fun playoff series to watch! I wonder if they will end up meeting each other this year? I hope so.

5. Phoenix beat Vancouver 4-3 in the shootout. Both teams scored 3 times in the shootout, but Bryzgalov prevented the shootout from going another round by deflecting Mason Raymond's shot up and over the net.

smc
03-12-2010, 12:47 AM
Nope, I meant that the break was good for Montreal. They are playing better now than before the Olympics.

The proper home for the Stanley Cup is Montreal. It's been there more often than anywhere else and has stayed in Montreal for longer at any one time than anywhere else.;)

I was being sarcastic. After all, didn't Lord Stanley ultimately reside in Ottawa?

smc
03-12-2010, 12:49 AM
Here are the scores from March 10th's games:

1. Buffalo beat Dallas 5-3. Both goalies looked shaky early on, but Dallas just couldn't put any more pressure on Miller. Dallas only ended up with 20 shots on net while the Sabres had 43. Tomas Vanek scored his 20th goal of the season in this game. It is hard to believe he had so many last season yet only has 20(so far) this year. Talk about a dive in production!

2. New Jersey beat the Rangers 6-3. This was a see-saw battle at the start(leads kept on being given up) and the game was tied 3-3 at one point. Then the wheels fell off for the Rangers. The Rangers managed 3 goals off 19 shots, so it looks like Brodeur wasn't sharp either.
I am not sure how true this is, but Travis Zajac(a Centre on the Devil's) said "I think our top three lines are the best in the league. I'd put us up against anyone." Considering the play of the Devils in the past month or two, I wouldn't necessarily believe what he says. What do Devils fans think about his comment?

3. Washington beat Carolina 4-3 in overtime. Another game where no lead was safe.

4. Chicago beat LA 3-2 in overtime. Patrick Sharp got his 20th and 21st goals of the season. There are a lot of good young players on both teams. I feel that this would be a really fun playoff series to watch! I wonder if they will end up meeting each other this year? I hope so.

5. Phoenix beat Vancouver 4-3 in the shootout. Both teams scored 3 times in the shootout, but Bryzgalov prevented the shootout from going another round by deflecting Mason Raymond's shot up and over the net.

Perhaps I am just in a surly mood this evening after drinking too much and staying up too late, but I would just like to reiterate that there should not be NHL teams in places like Phoenix or Carolina or Washington or Dallas (to name only those in shadows' post). And let me add San Jose, for good measure. And anywhere else ice doesn't form naturally outside and stay long enough for 2 days of hockey!

shadows
03-12-2010, 04:06 AM
Perhaps I am just in a surly mood this evening after drinking too much and staying up too late, but I would just like to reiterate that there should not be NHL teams in places like Phoenix or Carolina or Washington or Dallas (to name only those in shadows' post). And let me add San Jose, for good measure. And anywhere else ice doesn't form naturally outside and stay long enough for 2 days of hockey!

Washington got plenty of snow this year.:p

smc
03-12-2010, 06:48 AM
Washington got plenty of snow this year.:p

I amend my rant: places where the weather is consistent for hockey.

dauls
03-12-2010, 01:14 PM
dauls, your post makes me wonder: Why is there a hockey team in New Jersey? No wait, that's not exactly my question. What I really want to know is: Why is there a New Jersey?

Of course, the poor play of the Devils could be due to one of the two main features of New Jersey: air pollution and political corruption. Perhaps the players are breathing the air of all the chemical plants near Newark, or perhaps the team is being paid to lose as part of some statewide gambling ring among elected officials. Of course, I'm pretty sure they could just lose on their own.

Thanks smc, it looks like your Devils slight, goaded them into playing a fairly decent game for once.

March 10th: New Jersey beat the Rangers 6-3. This was a see-saw battle at the start(leads kept on being given up) and the game was tied 3-3 at one point. Then the wheels fell off for the Rangers. The Rangers managed 3 goals off 19 shots, so it looks like Brodeur wasn't sharp either.
I am not sure how true this is, but Travis Zajac(a Centre on the Devil's) said "I think our top three lines are the best in the league. I'd put us up against anyone." Considering the play of the Devils in the past month or two, I wouldn't necessarily believe what he says. What do Devils fans think about his comment?

A 6-3 win may have been good, but some of the post match comments were a bit over the top. OK the three lines worked for one game, a game in which the Devils had six different players scoring their six goals. But how will the Devils do against better opponents?

Maybe this new system is one they've been trying since signing Ilya Kovalchuk five weeks ago and on Wednesday it clicked for the first time.

We'll have to see if Wednesday's post match optimism remains after tonight's game against Divisional rivals and the Penguins.

ila
03-12-2010, 06:04 PM
I was being sarcastic. After all, didn't Lord Stanley ultimately reside in Ottawa?

I know that you were being sarcastic and I took it that way. Lord St anley used to live in Ottawa, although he was only a temporary resident.

I was being facetious when I said that the proper home for the Stanley Cup is in Montreal. I also had to get a dig in at Toronto which hasn't won nearly as many cups as Montreal.

ila
03-12-2010, 06:05 PM
Perhaps I am just in a surly mood this evening after drinking too much and staying up too late, but I would just like to reiterate that there should not be NHL teams in places like Phoenix or Carolina or Washington or Dallas (to name only those in shadows' post). And let me add San Jose, for good measure. And anywhere else ice doesn't form naturally outside and stay long enough for 2 days of hockey!

I couldn't agree with you more. :respect:

Captn Sacto
03-12-2010, 07:39 PM
Perhaps I am just in a surly mood this evening after drinking too much and staying up too late, but I would just like to reiterate that there should not be NHL teams in places like Phoenix or Carolina or Washington or Dallas (to name only those in shadows' post). And let me add San Jose, for good measure. And anywhere else ice doesn't form naturally outside and stay long enough for 2 days of hockey!

Don't Forget to add Vancouver. There is not a single month where the ave low is below freezing

ila
03-12-2010, 07:43 PM
Don't Forget to add Vancouver. There is not a single month where the ave low is below freezing

Vancouver gets cold enough every winter to have ice for more than 2 days in a row. Vancouver is also in Canada and in Canada hockey is almost a religion.

smc
03-12-2010, 08:56 PM
Vancouver gets cold enough every winter to have ice for more than 2 days in a row. Vancouver is also in Canada and in Canada hockey is almost a religion.

I'm with ila. It doesn't even matter about the weather in Canada; hockey in Canada is "automatic." I was talking about the United States. There should be no hockey below the Mason-Dixon Line. If the NHL feels the need to have so many teams, I propose professional hockey for Charlottetown, Halifax, Saint John, Regina, Saskatoon ...

Hell, let's let New Brunswick have teams in Fredericton and Moncton, too. And how about one in Thunder Bay.

I could list plenty of northern U.S. cities, too.

smc
03-12-2010, 08:59 PM
Hey, shadows, I heard a good one today:

Why is the Hockey Hall Of Fame in Toronto?

It's the only way Leafs fans can get to see the Stanley Cup!

shadows
03-12-2010, 10:54 PM
Hey, shadows, I heard a good one today:

Why is the Hockey Hall Of Fame in Toronto?

It's the only way Leafs fans can get to see the Stanley Cup!

I would get upset, but it's the truth.:no::lol:

ila
03-13-2010, 07:56 AM
Hey, shadows, I heard a good one today:

Why is the Hockey Hall Of Fame in Toronto?

It's the only way Leafs fans can get to see the Stanley Cup!

I would get upset, but it's the truth.:no::lol:

Toronto fans can always make the five hour trip to Montreal to look at the cup. As soon as Hamilton gets a team then they can make the one hour drive to Hamilton to see the cup.

smc
03-13-2010, 10:59 AM
Toronto fans can always make the five hour trip to Montreal to look at the cup. As soon as Hamilton gets a team then they can make the one hour drive to Hamilton to see the cup.

Or Guelph, or Mississauga, or Kitchener, or St Catherines, or Vaughan, or ... :lol:

shadows
03-13-2010, 02:48 PM
Damn it! I missed the 1000th post of the thread by one!:broken:

;)

smc
03-13-2010, 05:13 PM
Damn it! I missed the 1000th post of the thread by one!:broken:

;)

You live such an exciting life, my friend. :lol:

smc
03-13-2010, 05:14 PM
Little Andr? arrived home after his hockey game, threw open the door, and ran to his Dad.

"How was the game, son? How did you do?" asked his father, who had been unable to attend the game.

"You aren't going to believe it, Dad!" Andr? exclaimed. "I was responsible for the winning goal!"

"That's wonderful," his dad said. "How did you do that?"

"I missed my check on the other team's high scorer!"

smc
03-13-2010, 05:15 PM
At a game between the Leafs and the Habs, a fan suddenly found himself in the thick of dozens of flying bottles.

"There's nothing to worry about, lad," said the elderly chap siting next to him. "It's like the bombs during the war. You won't get hit unless the bottle's got your name on it."

"That's just what I'm afraid of," said the fan. "My name's Johnny Walker."

smc
03-13-2010, 05:18 PM
One more. This one's for my friend shadows.

The last time the Leafs won a Stanley Cup, most Leafs fans were in diapers. Guess what? The next time the Leafs win a Stanley cup, those same fans will be in diapers.

ila
03-13-2010, 05:32 PM
Boston is playing in Montreal tonight. The face-off is just over a half hour away. What do you think, smc, will Boston take the lead again only to lose to a resurgent Montreal in the third period?

smc
03-13-2010, 05:35 PM
Boston is playing in Montreal tonight. The face-off is just over a half hour away. What do you think, smc, will Boston take the lead again only to lose to a resurgent Montreal in the third period?

I am sorry to say that such a scenario sounds eminently plausible. Of course, the Habs might just decide not to toy with the Bruins tonight and crush them from the initial face-off.

Call me a disgruntled fan ...

smc
03-13-2010, 05:36 PM
Boston is playing in Montreal tonight. The face-off is just over a half hour away. What do you think, smc, will Boston take the lead again only to lose to a resurgent Montreal in the third period?

Oh, and by the way, I had the misfortune of being at the game to which you are referring. It's the one where I met the Habs fans on the subway (see earlier post).

ila
03-13-2010, 05:40 PM
I am sorry to say that such a scenario sounds eminently plausible. Of course, the Habs might just decide not to toy with the Bruins tonight and crush them from the initial face-off.

Call me a disgruntled fan ...

It is a home game for Montreal and they do play quite well at home. I think that Montreal will come out and play hard right from the start. They no better than to give only a half-hearted effort at home.

Oh, and by the way, I had the misfortune of being at the game to which you are referring. It's the one where I met the Habs fans on the subway (see earlier post).

I remember your post about that game. Sorry about the way it turned out. I'm glad that Montreal won, but I'm sorry that it was a friend's team that they beat.

ila
03-13-2010, 06:53 PM
Less than a minute left and Montreal just scored when Boston was on a powerplay. It's now 2 - 0 for Montreal and the first period just ended.

smc
03-13-2010, 06:57 PM
Less than a minute left and Montreal just scored when Boston was on a powerplay. It's now 2 - 0 for Montreal and the first period just ended.

Thanks for the update, ila. It's bad enough that the Habs ruin my hockey-watching (at least so far) by scoring when the Bruins are a man up. Now you have to remind me of something I already know in the place I visit to escape my hockey malaise by changing my focus to some beautiful gurly cocks!

ila
03-13-2010, 07:01 PM
Thanks for the update, ila. It's bad enough that the Habs ruin my hockey-watching (at least so far) by scoring when the Bruins are a man up. Now you have to remind me of something I already know in the place I visit to escape my hockey malaise by changing my focus to some beautiful gurly cocks!

To take your mind off the Bruins repeat after me "mmmmmm girl cock" and repeat as often as necessary.

smc
03-13-2010, 07:06 PM
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ila
03-13-2010, 07:23 PM
Damn, Boston scored. It's now 2 - 1 for Montreal. I need to meditate for awhile.

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shadows
03-13-2010, 07:57 PM
At least you get to see a good game where both teams are still in sniffing distance of a playoff spot.

Me? My team gets to face the other cellar dweller from the West...the Edmonton Oilers.:no:

At least the Leafs are ahead 5-2. Third win in a row? They always seem to play better when the season is pretty much over. They did this last year(and the year before). They stink for the majority of games, then make a mad run at the end of the season...and usually end up 9th at best. Arghhhhh!

So, to recap:

Montreal 2 Boston 1 at the end of the second period.

Toronto 5 Edmonton 2 at the end of the second period.

shadows
03-13-2010, 08:00 PM
Actually, I just checked the Boxscore from the Montreal/Boston game. Boston only has 11 shots after 2 periods and Montreal only has 16 shots. It doesn't look like it is that interesting of a game. Are the shots on goal misleading in this case, Ila? Perhaps there may not be a lot of shots, but they are all quality ones?

ila
03-13-2010, 08:46 PM
Actually, I just checked the Boxscore from the Montreal/Boston game. Boston only has 11 shots after 2 periods and Montreal only has 16 shots. It doesn't look like it is that interesting of a game. Are the shots on goal misleading in this case, Ila? Perhaps there may not be a lot of shots, but they are all quality ones?

The game is over and Montreal won 3 - 2. It was a good game with quite intense action. Both teams skated well and played hard. Yes, all shots were quality ones.

smc
03-13-2010, 09:10 PM
At least you get to see a good game where both teams are still in sniffing distance of a playoff spot.

Sniffing distance, perhaps, but down by Boston Garden the smell ain't so good! :lol:

shadows
03-13-2010, 09:11 PM
The game is over and Montreal won 3 - 2. It was a good game with quite intense action. Both teams skated well and played hard. Yes, all shots were quality ones.

That's good to hear. I hate the games where there is endless cycling of the puck and not a lot of quality shots.

Toronto gave me a bit of a fright with their game tonight. They ended up winning 6-4, but they also had a 5-1 lead at one point. A bright spot was Kessel having two goals and an assist in this game.

smc
03-13-2010, 09:11 PM
The game is over and Montreal won 3 - 2. It was a good game with quite intense action. Both teams skated well and played hard. Yes, all shots were quality ones.

ila's description is quite accurate. Unfortunately, not all work of the goalies was at the same level of quality.

shadows
03-13-2010, 09:11 PM
Sniffing distance, perhaps, but down by Boston Garden the smell ain't so good! :lol:

It's all that Boston Pizza food.;):lol:

shadows
03-13-2010, 09:13 PM
ila's description is quite accurate. Unfortunately, not all work of the goalies was at the same level of quality.

Did Rask let in a soft goal or something? I was just following the game on nhl.com, so I don't know any particulars(besides shots on goal, penalties, etc.).

smc
03-13-2010, 09:13 PM
It's all that Boston Pizza food.;):lol:

I have no idea what you're talking about: "Boston Pizza food"?

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of the decaying corpse of another Bruins season. It's sort of like what you smell up your way, but without the maple syrup.

smc
03-13-2010, 09:15 PM
Did Rask let in a soft goal or something? I was just following the game on nhl.com, so I don't know any particulars(besides shots on goal, penalties, etc.).

No, Rask did quite well. My comment was simply a reference to the fact that he failed to keep one more goal out of the net than the Habs.

shadows
03-13-2010, 09:16 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about: "Boston Pizza food"?

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of the decaying corpse of another Bruins season. It's sort of like what you smell up your way, but without the maple syrup.

Boston Pizza is the name of a franchise of restaurants(like Kelsey's, The Keg, Olive Garden, etc.). I thought it originated in Boston due to the name. I guess I was mistaken.

The maple syrup covers the rank odour that is emanating from the Leaf's locker room. Thank goodness for small miracles.;):lol:

smc
03-13-2010, 09:18 PM
Toronto gave me a bit of a fright with their game tonight. They ended up winning 6-4, but they also had a 5-1 lead at one point. A bright spot was Kessel having two goals and an assist in this game.

As we like to say around these parts, f**k Phil Kessel!

When you say they gave you a bit of a fright, do you mean that when they actually appeared to playing hockey you thought your heart was going to go into cardiac arrest?

It seems to me that both the Leafs and the Oilers could've used some of their 10 goals earlier in the season in games that mattered.

shadows
03-13-2010, 09:19 PM
No, Rask did quite well. My comment was simply a reference to the fact that he failed to keep one more goal out of the net than the Habs.

Alas, I know all too well that happening with the Leafs this season.

It looks like the Devils lost to the Islanders tonight(4-2)! I don't think that dauls is going to be a very happy camper!:eek:

Bryzgalov got another shutout for Phoenix tonight. It is his eighth of the season!:respect:

smc
03-13-2010, 09:20 PM
Boston Pizza is the name of a franchise of restaurants(like Kelsey's, The Keg, Olive Garden, etc.). I thought it originated in Boston due to the name. I guess I was mistaken.

The maple syrup covers the rank odour that is emanating from the Leaf's locker room. Thank goodness for small miracles.;):lol:

That's funny. Boston Pizza is a Canadian chain. Boston has good pizza, but it's not something for which the city is famous. New Haven, Connecticut -- now there's a place where they take pizza seriously. People fight over which place has the best. Or Chicago, where arguing about which "deep dish" pizza is best is a citywide pasttime, sort of like arguing at what point in the season the Cubs are going to fold.

Whoops, wrong thread.

shadows
03-13-2010, 09:23 PM
As we like to say around these parts, f**k Phil Kessel!

When you say they gave you a bit of a fright, do you mean that when they actually appeared to playing hockey you thought your heart was going to go into cardiac arrest?

It seems to me that both the Leafs and the Oilers could've used some of their 10 goals earlier in the season in games that mattered.

I agree.

I don't know why you(Boston fans) hate Phil Kessel so much. It looks like you are going to get a #1 pick for him(and possibly next year as well!).

And trust me when I say this without any malice, I am pretty shocked that Boston is at the bottom for goals scored. Even with the loss of Kessel, I thought they would have scored more goals(they were pretty high on the list last season)! I know that they have had some injuries, but some of the players have been underperforming from the start. When the season started, I honestly thought they would be one of the top four teams in the East!:eek:

shadows
03-13-2010, 09:24 PM
That's funny. Boston Pizza is a Canadian chain. Boston has good pizza, but it's not something for which the city is famous. New Haven, Connecticut -- now there's a place where they take pizza seriously. People fight over which place has the best. Or Chicago, where arguing about which "deep dish" pizza is best is a citywide pasttime, sort of like arguing at what point in the season the Cubs are going to fold.

Whoops, wrong thread.

Thanks for the clarification. We have a Boston Pizza in town, but I have yet to taste any of their food.:)

smc
03-13-2010, 09:31 PM
Thanks for the clarification. We have a Boston Pizza in town, but I have yet to taste any of their food.:)

It could be very good. I have no idea. Chain pizza, though, is not usually the best. Whatever it tastes like, though, rest assured it has nothing to do with Boston except that perhaps the guy who started it has some connection to the city. Or, perhaps, if the restaurant offers pizzas with things for which Boston is famous as toppings, such as cod, or baked beans, or fried dough, or clam chowder, or cream pie. None of those sound even remotely good as pizza toppings, but shadows -- admit it -- the creampie is getting you interested. :lol:

shadows
03-13-2010, 09:34 PM
It could be very good. I have no idea. Chain pizza, though, is not usually the best. Whatever it tastes like, though, rest assured it has nothing to do with Boston except that perhaps the guy who started it has some connection to the city. Or, perhaps, if the restaurant offers pizzas with things for which Boston is famous as toppings, such as cod, or baked beans, or fried dough, or clam chowder, or cream pie. None of those sound even remotely good as pizza toppings, but shadows -- admit it -- the creampie is getting you interested. :lol:

Coconut creampie?;)

Boston Pizza does not just serve pizza. There are numerous items in it, and their pizzas do not look like the pizzas you would find at a Little Caesar's, Pizza Hut, etc. Maybe they'll have one near the Roger's Centre?:)

ila
03-13-2010, 09:44 PM
Did Rask let in a soft goal or something? I was just following the game on nhl.com, so I don't know any particulars(besides shots on goal, penalties, etc.).

No, Rask did quite well. My comment was simply a reference to the fact that he failed to keep one more goal out of the net than the Habs.

Rask's performance was what kept Boston in the game when their defence forgot to keep playing.

dauls
03-13-2010, 09:45 PM
It looks like the Devils lost to the Islanders tonight(4-2)! I don't think that dauls is going to be a very happy camper!:eek:


One night the Devils beat the Penguins, the next they lose to the f:censored:g Islanders. Trailing 3-1 the Devils closed the score to 3-2 before giving up a f:censored:g shorthanded goal in the 3rd minute of a double minor.:frown::no::censored:

Next up the Bruins on Monday night. We'll probably help Boston in their struggle to hold onto 8th spot.

smc
03-13-2010, 09:49 PM
Coconut creampie?;)

Boston Pizza does not just serve pizza. There are numerous items in it, and their pizzas do not look like the pizzas you would find at a Little Caesar's, Pizza Hut, etc. Maybe they'll have one near the Roger's Centre?:)

Sorry, shadows, but if am traveling to Toronto to see a game, I will also be eating much finer cuisine. I'll even treat.

smc
03-13-2010, 09:50 PM
Next up the Bruins on Monday night. We'll probably help Boston in their struggle to hold onto 8th spot.

Please, don't do us any favors. I'm beginning to be a very strong advocate of hockey euthanasia.

ila
03-13-2010, 09:50 PM
Sorry, shadows, but if am traveling to Toronto to see a game, I will also be eating much finer cuisine. I'll even treat.

Don Cherry's restaurant?

smc
03-13-2010, 09:51 PM
Rask's performance was what kept Boston in the game when their defence forgot to keep playing.

ila, don't let them off the hook by saying they forgot.

Oh, and by the way, it's defense that they weren't playing. Maybe if they did play defence, they would be better.

ila
03-13-2010, 09:53 PM
ila, don't let them off the hook by saying they forgot.

Oh, and by the way, it's defense that they weren't playing. Maybe if they did play defence, they would be better.

:lol: I stand corrected.

dauls
03-13-2010, 10:13 PM
Please, don't do us any favors. I'm beginning to be a very strong advocate of hockey euthanasia.

It's a shame the Devils don't share your point of view. When will they learn to put the teams that have given up on the 2009/10 season out of their misery?

GRH
03-13-2010, 10:25 PM
Well, my Maine Black Bears came to play tonight and tied up the best of 3 playoffs match. Tomorrow will decide who advances or not.

smc
03-13-2010, 10:35 PM
Well, my Maine Black Bears came to play tonight and tied up the best of 3 playoffs match. Tomorrow will decide who advances or not.

I'm always glad to hear the Black Bears are doing well. They have a fine hockey program up there in Orono.

shadows
03-14-2010, 01:24 AM
Sorry, shadows, but if am traveling to Toronto to see a game, I will also be eating much finer cuisine. I'll even treat.

That is awfully nice of you, my friend!:respect:

I will be sure to bring a healthy appetite.:)

shadows
03-14-2010, 01:26 AM
ila, don't let them off the hook by saying they forgot.

Oh, and by the way, it's defense that they weren't playing. Maybe if they did play defence, they would be better.

No, ila's wording is correct. The way they are playing right now, the Bruins are straddling de-fence to the playoffs.;):lol:

The Leafs, however, lost the damned key to the gate a loooong time ago. I think that Rat-fink bastard Toskala took it!:censored:

smc
03-14-2010, 07:53 AM
No, ila's wording is correct. The way they are playing right now, the Bruins are straddling de-fence to the playoffs.;):lol:

Wow! Now we all can have another reason for wishing we could be Canadian: so we can make puns like that with those wacky Great North spellings! ;)

ila
03-14-2010, 08:39 AM
Wow! Now we all can have another reason for wishing we could be Canadian: so we can make puns like that with those wacky Great North spellings! ;)

Of course. Defence - noun Defense - verb The act of getting on de-fence is de-fensing. :lol:

smc
03-14-2010, 12:35 PM
Of course. Defence - noun Defense - verb The act of getting on de-fence is de-fensing. :lol:

Okay, let's put a halt to this before I engage in some defenestration.

smc
03-14-2010, 12:41 PM
That is awfully nice of you, my friend!:respect:

I will be sure to bring a healthy appetite.:)

Who said anything about treating you! :lol:

ila
03-14-2010, 12:43 PM
Okay, let's put a halt to this before I engage in some defenestration.

Then you won't have to worry about throwing stones.

shadows
03-14-2010, 11:03 PM
Anyone want to lay odds on how long Ovechkin will get suspended for the Game Misconduct he received for nailing Brian Campbell from behind into the boards? Or will he not get any suspension at all because he is a star player? It's not like he really got suspended the last time even though they "gave" him one. Everyone knew he was going to miss a few games due to injury so the suspension was only given because of that(he should have gotten the suspension to be started when he returned from the injury).

He plays hard, but he crosses the line from time to time. Just because he is a star player does NOT mean he shouldn't be suspended if he does something that warrants it.:rolleyes:

smc
03-14-2010, 11:04 PM
Anyone want to lay odds on how long Ovechkin will get suspended for the Game Misconduct he received for nailing Brian Campbell from behind into the boards? Or will he not get any suspension at all because he is a star player? It's not like he really got suspended the last time even though they "gave" him one. Everyone knew he was going to miss a few games due to injury so the suspension was only given because of that(he should have gotten the suspension to be started when he returned from the injury).

He plays hard, but he crosses the line from time to time. Just because he is a star player does NOT mean he shouldn't be suspended if he does something that warrants it.:rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure Vladimir Putin has some say on what happens to Ovechkin ... or at least if the NHL knows what's good for it. :eek:

shadows
03-14-2010, 11:29 PM
I'm pretty sure Vladimir Putin has some say on what happens to Ovechkin ... or at least if the NHL knows what's good for it. :eek:

Well, the way Buttman keeps saying that the NHL may not play in the 2014 Olympics, I honestly don't think he gives a rat's ass what Putin says.:lol:

smc
03-14-2010, 11:31 PM
Well, the way Buttman keeps saying that the NHL may not play in the 2014 Olympics, I honestly don't think he gives a rat's ass what Putin says.:lol:

Comrade, you ignore what Putin says at your own peril.

shadows
03-14-2010, 11:32 PM
Comrade, you ignore what Putin says at your own peril.

Just ask all of the Russian Olympic coordinators who have mysteriously disappeared.;)

smc
03-14-2010, 11:43 PM
Just ask all of the Russian Olympic coordinators who have mysteriously disappeared.;)

Disappeared? Have you never heard of the GAHL (Gulag Archipelago Hockey League)?

shadows
03-14-2010, 11:44 PM
Disappeared? Have you never heard of the GAHL (Gulag Archipelago Hockey League)?

Is that where the talent of the Leafs has gone to?:confused:

smc
03-14-2010, 11:45 PM
Is that where the talent of the Leafs has gone to?:confused:

What "talent"?

shadows
03-14-2010, 11:57 PM
What "talent"?

Exactly.:(

shadows
03-15-2010, 12:54 AM
It appears that this is the end result of the (dirty) hit from Ovechkin. The article is from tsn.ca.

REPORT: BLACKHAWKS' CAMPBELL OUT FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON

While Alex Ovechkin may well escape punishment for his latest marginal hit, the victim of the check may be done for the season.

ESPN.com is reporting that Chicago Blackhawks defenceman Brian Campbell may miss the remainder of the season due to a broken clavicle and ribs suffered when he was driven into the boards from behind by the Washington Capitals' superstar on Sunday.

Campbell remained on the ice for several minutes before being helped to the dressing room by trainers. Ovechkin received a five-minute boarding major and a game misconduct on the play.

While Blackhawks' head coach Joel Quenville did not confirm that Campbell's season was over, he did expect to be without his blueliner for an extended period of time.

"[Campbell] is going to be out for a bit," Quenville said following the game. "It was a tough hit, a dangerous hit."

Despite this being Ovechkin's third game misconduct this season, he will not be suspended because the penalties were not assessed for the same infraction. His last game misconduct was handed out for a knee-on-knee hit on Tim Gleason of the Carolina Hurricanes.

Also, he has been cleared for his last game misconduct for boarding because it was assessed more than 41 games ago.
Ovechkin defended his actions by stating he did not feel it was a dirty hit.

"It was not a hard hit," Ovechkin said. "I just wanted to push him. It's just a moment in the game. I don't think it has to be five minutes or something like that. I just felt bad."


Wow! Ovechkin didn't feel it was a dirty hit! Big surprise. I wonder how badly he has to hurt someone before he actually admits that he has been a dirty player before.:no:

ila
03-15-2010, 05:18 PM
I can't stand Ovechkin. I would like to see him suspended for the next decade.

smc
03-15-2010, 05:28 PM
Wow! Ovechkin didn't feel it was a dirty hit! Big surprise. I wonder how badly he has to hurt someone before he actually admits that he has been a dirty player before.:no:

A dirty player like Ovechkin will never admit to being dirty, except perhaps to the Russian Orthodox priest who is giving him his last rites.

I hear the Philadelphia Flyers are thinking of trying to trade for him just so they can resurrect the Broad Street Bullies. (Sorry, Jen.)

smc
03-15-2010, 09:32 PM
Damn Bruins! Tim Thomas gives up 3 goals in the first period, continuing the crappy play that makes me wonder whether being picked for the U.S. Olympic Team somehow destroyed his season. But at least Bergeron is back, and scored late. That's a nice sign ... for the 2010-2011 season, I fear.

shadows
03-15-2010, 10:53 PM
Damn Bruins! Tim Thomas gives up 3 goals in the first period, continuing the crappy play that makes me wonder whether being picked for the U.S. Olympic Team somehow destroyed his season. But at least Bergeron is back, and scored late. That's a nice sign ... for the 2010-2011 season, I fear.

I thought that Boston had a chance to tie it up, since it looks like the Devils took their foot off the gas after the first period. I think the main problem for Thomas is that he is being played as the second-string goalie(Rask has been given the Lion's Share of starts lately(or at least that is how it seems to me), and with the long lay-off during the Olympic break due to riding the pine while Miller played, I am sure he is a little rusty.

smc
03-15-2010, 10:54 PM
I thought that Boston had a chance to tie it up, since it looks like the Devils took their foot off the gas after the first period. I think the main problem for Thomas is that he is being played as the second-string goalie(Rask has been given the Lion's Share of starts lately(or at least that is how it seems to me), and with the long lay-off during the Olympic break due to riding the pine while Miller played, I am sure he is a little rusty.

Hey, shadows, do you get "rusty" ;) when you "ride the pine" ;) ?

shadows
03-15-2010, 10:54 PM
Ovechkin got a total of 2 games for his hit. Lappierre gets 4 for a similar hit, and Ovechkin only gets 2? Nice job of parity, Colon Campbell(I call him that because his decisions are always full of SHIT!:censored:)!:rolleyes:

shadows
03-15-2010, 10:55 PM
Hey, shadows, do you get "rusty" ;) when you "ride the pine" ;) ?

No, but I do get stiff.;)

smc
03-15-2010, 10:57 PM
No, but I do get stiff.;)

And splintered, I bet.

shadows
03-15-2010, 11:14 PM
And splintered, I bet.

An unfortunate by-product of getting wood.;):lol:

dauls
03-16-2010, 09:35 AM
An unfortunate by-product of getting wood.;):lol:

Those splinters aren't a by-product, they're proof you haven't been treating your wood correctly.:innocent:

smc
03-16-2010, 09:42 AM
Those splinters aren't a by-product, they're proof you haven't been treating your wood correctly.:innocent:

dauls is right, shadows. I know you keep some of this on the nightstand next to your bed; perhaps it's time to start using it.

dauls
03-16-2010, 10:45 AM
dauls is right, shadows. I know you keep some of this on the nightstand next to your bed; perhaps it's time to start using it.
Alternatively to treat damaged wood:

First you'll need to vigorously rub-down the affected area.
Then apply a good Finishing Wax, it "buffs to a deep shine", "without adding colour", except to the cheeks perhaps.:blush:
154059:rolleyes::no::rolleyes::innocent:

dauls
03-16-2010, 10:48 AM
Damn Bruins! Tim Thomas gives up 3 goals in the first period, continuing the crappy play that makes me wonder whether being picked for the U.S. Olympic Team somehow destroyed his season. But at least Bergeron is back, and scored late. That's a nice sign ... for the 2010-2011 season, I fear.

The Devils may have taken an early 3-0 lead but they almost succeeded in throwing the game away. They just don't have that killer instinct.

At least Brodeur had a decent game: 34 saves and an assist.:)

GRH
03-16-2010, 03:04 PM
Well my Maine Black Bears won in overtime in their third game of the first round of the playoffs against U. Mass Lowell. Next up is Boston University on the road.

smc
03-16-2010, 03:13 PM
Well my Maine Black Bears won in overtime in their third game of the first round of the playoffs against U. Mass Lowell. Next up is Boston University on the road.

I'll be rooting for Maine (I hate B.U.), but I fear that beating the Terriers is an uphill battle at best.

shadows
03-16-2010, 11:11 PM
Yay! Toronto won again! They beat Ottawa 4-1(boy, the Senators are playing quite poorly right now)!:cool:

Boston won!:)

Montreal won!:)

Toronto won!:)

Philadelphia lost.:((but they came back from a 3-1 deficit to tie it at 3, so they were able to at least get a point).

San Jose got spanked 8-2 by Dallas. The goaltending has been pretty weak the past few games for the Sharks. Nabokov had a shaky Olympics, so maybe that is still on his mind? If he doesn't shake his funk, the Sharks will have a hard time in the playoffs.

ila
03-17-2010, 03:55 PM
Yay! Toronto won again! They beat Ottawa 4-1(boy, the Senators are playing quite poorly right now)!:cool:


I like to see the Senators lose to Toronto. It keeps them humble.

smc
03-17-2010, 04:10 PM
I like to see the Senators lose to Toronto. It keeps them humble.

I'd like to see the Washington Senators play the Toronto Blue Jays, because it would mean I was a lot younger than I am right now. Okay, forget about the 6-year gap between the Senators becoming the Texas Rangers and the founding of the Blue Jays. And forget about this being in the wrong thread. I'm just sayin' ...

ila
03-17-2010, 04:34 PM
I'd like to see the Washington Senators play the Toronto Blue Jays, because it would mean I was a lot younger than I am right now. Okay, forget about the 6-year gap between the Senators becoming the Texas Rangers and the founding of the Blue Jays. And forget about this being in the wrong thread. I'm just sayin' ...

I've forgotten whatever it is that you were talking about.

smc
03-17-2010, 05:06 PM
I've forgotten whatever it is that you were talking about.

Ouch!!

Here's a reminder of what this thread is about, to get us (okay, me) back on track.

ila
03-17-2010, 05:09 PM
Ouch!!

Here's a reminder of what this thread is about, to get us (okay, me) back on track.

Is your first picture from the Canada - Russia Olympics hockey game with players looking for the hole in the back of the net after the referee refused to do so?

shadows
03-17-2010, 11:17 PM
Ila, I am shocked that you didn't say anything about my 'Colon Campbell' comment.:eek:;):lol:

dauls
03-18-2010, 01:17 AM
There's nothing like a bit of fatherly advice...
;) 154371 :eek:

shadows
03-18-2010, 01:26 AM
There's nothing like a bit of fatherly advice...
;) 154371 :eek:

Damn. If only it wasn't so true!:eek::(

:lol:;):lol:

Nice one, dauls.:respect:

shadows
03-18-2010, 01:32 AM
Christ.

I am getting sick and tired of seeing these dirty hits occuring! Something needs to be done.

Article from tsn.ca.

SEABROOK KNOCKED OUT BY CHARGE FROM DUCKS' WISNIEWSKI

The NHL's discipline practices have been under the microscope in recent weeks, and another ugly incident has taken place that is likely to test the system further.

In Wednesday's Blackhawks-Ducks game in Anaheim, Chicago's Brent Seabrook caught Anaheim's Corey Perry with a hit near the end boards that knocked Perry down.

Just a few seconds later, Anaheim's James Wisniewski laid a crushing hit on Seabrook that knocked the Chicago defenceman out of the game. Starting from the faceoff circle, Wisniewski sped at Seabrook and launched himself off the ice and into the defenceman at the end boards.

Wisniewski was assessed a minor charging penalty on the play, while Seabrook appeared dazed on his feet before collapsing to the ice.

Seabrook was facing Wisniewski with his back to the end boards, but was looking down at the puck that was near him and likely did not see the hit coming until the very last moment.

Chicago's Duncan Keith immediately fought Wisniewski, with both players drawing five-minute majors.

How the hell the refs only called a minor for that is beyond me!:rolleyes:

shadows
03-18-2010, 01:35 AM
I'm surprised that dauls made a drive-by post here and didn't mention anything about the Devils smoking the Penguins 5-2.;):p

dauls
03-18-2010, 02:21 AM
I'm surprised that dauls made a drive-by post here and didn't mention anything about the Devils smoking the Penguins 5-2.;):p

I was still suffering after seeing that old school red, white & green :p uniform.

Anyway completing a 6-0 season sweep of the Penguins (cumulative score of 22-5), and pinching the #2 spot in the East surely said it all.

And the 5 Devils goals came from only 19 shots.:)

smc
03-18-2010, 08:51 AM
Is your first picture from the Canada - Russia Olympics hockey game with players looking for the hole in the back of the net after the referee refused to do so?

Two thoughts:

1) If either of those guys in the picture plays for Team Canada, I think 2010 will be the last Olympic Gold medal for Canada for a long time.

2) Don't they seem a bit scrawny to you? I'm imaging them on the ice with Ovechkin. He comes at them at full speed, there is a body slam, and they literally break in half.

smc
03-18-2010, 08:53 AM
There's nothing like a bit of fatherly advice...
;) 154371 :eek:

... and these men play with their sticks in a very different way than does father, or than the way that you are going to be wanting to do very soon, lad.

smc
03-18-2010, 08:58 AM
I'm surprised that dauls made a drive-by post here and didn't mention anything about the Devils smoking the Penguins 5-2.;):p

Is there no end to Satan's machinations? Are the other vices he has introduced to our world, and of which he has forced so many to partake, not enough? Now he must make it possible to smoke a penguin, and lure millions of our youth -- especially young Canadian boys and girls about to embark on a lifetime of hockey playing -- into yet another vile habit?

smc
03-18-2010, 04:18 PM
Viz. the recent discussions about hard hits on the ice, the headline in today's Boston Globe sports section reads, "Bruins may stir something up for Cooke."

Speculation is that when the Bruins meet the Penguins tonight, they may take action against Matt Cooke. "Tonight ... the Bruins will have a chance to do something the NHL did not. They can hold Penguins left wing Matt Cooke accountable for the damage he inflicted upon Marc Savard, still left dizzy by the blow to the head he took 11 days ago."

11 days!

Cooke blind-sided Savard right to the head in the March 7 game in Pittsburgh, and the NHL did nothing because the hit was "legal" according to the 2009-2010 rule book. It prompted general managers throughout the league to propose a rule change to make such hints something for which a player can be penalized. The Bruins GM believes "that had the rule been in place when Cooke launched himself into Savard, the Pittsburgh winger might have been suspended for 10 or more games."

So, will Bruins' players pound Cooke legally, or risk penalties and suspensions in the name of retribution. I guess we'll soon find out.

ila
03-18-2010, 05:25 PM
Ila, I am shocked that you didn't say anything about my 'Colon Campbell' comment.:eek:;):lol:

I was laughing too hard to type anything. Some nicknames are so appropriate.

shadows
03-18-2010, 11:42 PM
Viz. the recent discussions about hard hits on the ice, the headline in today's Boston Globe sports section reads, "Bruins may stir something up for Cooke."

Speculation is that when the Bruins meet the Penguins tonight, they may take action against Matt Cooke. "Tonight ... the Bruins will have a chance to do something the NHL did not. They can hold Penguins left wing Matt Cooke accountable for the damage he inflicted upon Marc Savard, still left dizzy by the blow to the head he took 11 days ago."

11 days!

Cooke blind-sided Savard right to the head in the March 7 game in Pittsburgh, and the NHL did nothing because the hit was "legal" according to the 2009-2010 rule book. It prompted general managers throughout the league to propose a rule change to make such hints something for which a player can be penalized. The Bruins GM believes "that had the rule been in place when Cooke launched himself into Savard, the Pittsburgh winger might have been suspended for 10 or more games."

So, will Bruins' players pound Cooke legally, or risk penalties and suspensions in the name of retribution. I guess we'll soon find out.

I have some good news and some bad news about the game. Cooke was in a fight with Thornton(I don't know who the victor of the fight was), which was good news since they kept the retaliation legal. The bad news is that the Bruins forgot that there was a hockey game to play and they lost 3-0. Pittsburgh had 31 shots, while Boston only had 17. To add insult to insult, this was Fleury's first shutout of the season.:no:

shadows
03-18-2010, 11:47 PM
You know, Colon Campbell could not give out a proper suspension if his life depended on it!:censored:

Eight measly games for that crap? I wonder if he would be so cavalier with handing out suspensions if it was his son that was on the receiving end of a dirty hit(his son plays on the Florida Panthers)?:rolleyes:

Here is the story from tsn.ca.

WISNIEWSKI GIVEN 8 GAME SUSPENSION FOR SEABROOK HIT

The National Hockey League has suspended Anaheim Ducks blueliner James Wisniewski eight games for his hit on Chicago Blackhawks' Brent Seabrook.

The incident took place during Wednesday's Blackhawks-Ducks game in Anaheim, Seabrook caught Anaheim's Corey Perry with a hit near the end boards that knocked Perry down.

Seconds later, Wisniewski laid a crushing hit on Seabrook that knocked the Chicago defenceman out of the game. Starting from the faceoff circle, Wisniewski sped at Seabrook and launched himself off the ice and into the defenceman at the end boards.

Wisniewski was assessed a minor charging penalty on the play, while Seabrook appeared dazed on his feet before collapsing to the ice.

"Mr. Wisniewski delivered a retaliatory hit to the head of an opponent who never had possession of the puck," explained NHL senior vice president of hockey operations Colin Campbell in a statement.

"There are certain hits in the game that are tolerable if you got the puck," stated Blackhawks coach Joel Quenneville after Wednesday's game. "But if you hit a guy without the puck, you could kill a guy. It's the most dangerous hit in the history of the game. He tried to hurt him. If that's not intent, that's as bad a hit as you can ever have in the game."

Wisniewski, a former member of the Blackhawks, showed remorse for his actions but didn't agree with the eight-game penalty.

"I am truly sorry that my friend Brent Seabrook was hurt on the play," said Wisniewski in a statement. "I certainly wish him the best. I am, however, very disappointed in the length of the suspension. Eight games is incredibly hard to swallow, especially in comparison to other recent hits that have resulted in lesser punishment."

The suspension was not the first for Wisniewski this season. He served two games for a hit on Shane Doan of the Phoenix Coyotes in early November. He was also suspended for one game (crosscheck) in March of 2008.



Pathetic. He should have been suspended the rest of the season...at least!

dauls
03-19-2010, 04:48 AM
It would be unsporting of me to visit this thread and fail to acknowledge the Leafs shootout annihilation of the Devils last night.:(

The Devils couldn't even manage a shot on goal in overtime.:no::frown:

Clearly Danis (conceded all 3 penalty shots last night) has a lot to learn from Brodeur about winning a shootout.

shadows
03-19-2010, 11:07 PM
It would be unsporting of me to visit this thread and fail to acknowledge the Leafs shootout annihilation of the Devils last night.:(

The Devils couldn't even manage a shot on goal in overtime.:no::frown:

Clearly Danis (conceded all 3 penalty shots last night) has a lot to learn from Brodeur about winning a shootout.

I did not want to appear like I was rubbing it in, so I was waiting for you to post it. I am surprised that the Leafs won, but I will take the win! Brodeur is undefeated against the Leafs this season, so I am glad they gave him the night off.:)

shadows
03-21-2010, 01:13 AM
There will be tears of laughter and tears of joy shed tonight, my friends. What kind of tears did you shed?;)

Here are the scores from March 20th's games:

1. Carolina beat Pittsburgh 3-2 in overtime. Damn it, I really wish Carolina would stop winning! I want the Leafs to pass them(in fact, pass as many teams as possible) so the pick they end up giving will not be a #1(sorry Smc, but I have to think about my beloved Leafs first and foremost;)).

2. Dallas beat Ottawa 5-4. Jason Spezza got a hat-trick in this one. Didn't Ottawa win 11 games in a row at one point? I guess the Olympic break was not good for them, as they have been putrid since then. They were in third place in the Conference at one point, but are now in sixth. They are tied in points with Montreal(Montreal would have leapfrogged Ottawa had they beaten Toronto) and only SIX points from being OUT of the playoffs!

3. Toronto beat Montreal 3-2 in the shootout. I am sorry that your Habs had to lose tonight Ila, but I really want the Leafs to finish strong and have the young players build on this for next season.

4. St. Louis beat New Jersey 1-0. I imagine that the tears that dauls are shedding are tears of fury! Zajac seems to have been talking out of his ass when he said they have the top three lines in the entire NHL. Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Zajac, especially when those words are smelly farts(which is what happens when you talk out of your ass;)). New Jersey better wake up, otherwise it will be a short playoffs for them!:eek:

5. Atlanta beat Philadelphia 5-2. I wonder how Philly is going to do now that they are in dire straits with regards to their goaltending situation. Their top two goalies are out with injuries, and they are now relying on Boucher. Atlanta got 2 points closer to the playoff picture with the win.

6. Buffalo beat Florida 3-1. It looks like Ryan Miller is back to his old self, and that is a bad thing for the opposing teams! Florida just keeps slider further and further down the standings. They are only 3 points ahead of the Leafs!

7. Washington beat Tampa Bay 3-1. Ovechkin got his 45th goal of the season, but I feel he shouldn't have even been in this game since he should have gotten more than a 2-game suspension.

8. Nashville beat Columbus 1-0. I sense a pattern here. This is the second 1-0 game tonight.

9. Phoenix beat Chicago 5-4 in the shootout. This was Phoenix's 8th win in a row, and they are now only 1 point away from San Jose! One point!!:eek: They are also only 2 points back from Chicago, who is the current leader in the Western Conference. Who would have thought they would be where they are now, especially with the turmoil that was happening before the season started. With this great season they are having, I wonder if it has even made a difference with their attendance?

10. Detroit beat Vancouver 4-3 in overtime. Detroit scored in the final second of overtime to claim victory. Luongo cannot be faulted for the loss(the defense can, though) as he made 50 saves!

11. LA beat the Islanders 1-0. See? A pattern! The third 1-0 game of the evening.;)

dauls
03-21-2010, 01:56 AM
St. Louis beat New Jersey 1-0. I imagine that the tears that dauls are shedding are tears of fury! Zajac seems to have been talking out of his ass when he said they have the top three lines in the entire NHL. Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Zajac, especially when those words are smelly farts(which is what happens when you talk out of your ass;)). New Jersey better wake up, otherwise it will be a short playoffs for them!:eek:

154930 Sometimes the opposing goalie just has one of those nights, Conklin's 29 saves and the Devils poor first period were the difference.

'Highlight' of the night was a 1st period fight between Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond and the Blues' Cam Janssen that lasted almost 3 minutes - the longest fight of the season.:p

This was Leblond's third fight in the last 4 games.:rolleyes:

smc
03-21-2010, 09:08 AM
Hockey East: kudos to the Maine Black Bears, for whom I rooted, for making it past the hated BU and playing an amazing game against BC last night. While BC ultimately won, 7-6, it was a helluva hockey game.

smc
03-21-2010, 12:46 PM
Kevin Paul Dupont has a column in the sports section of today's Boston Sunday Globe about the terrible hits that have become all too regular in the NHL lately. It's worth a read (apart from the stupid reference to Al Sharpton, which has no place in the discussion):

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/articles/2010/03/21/onus_is_smack_dab_on_players/

Late in the piece, former Bruins defensemen Brad Park makes some excellent points about Matt Cooke and Alex Ovechkin that call into question their quality as hockey players overall.

This, my friends, is a very good read.

shadows
03-21-2010, 02:56 PM
154930 Sometimes the opposing goalie just has one of those nights, Conklin's 29 saves and the Devils poor first period were the difference.

'Highlight' of the night was a 1st period fight between Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond and the Blues' Cam Janssen that lasted almost 3 minutes - the longest fight of the season.:p

This was Leblond's third fight in the last 4 games.:rolleyes:

That is a long fight! They usually are over pretty quickly as the Refs slide over the fighters like slippery eels!:eek:

Who won?;)

shadows
03-21-2010, 02:57 PM
Got a final score for today!

Boston beat the Rangers 2-1 in afternoon action! They gained two precious points on the Rangers, now they just have to hope that Atlanta loses tonight. Atlanta plays Philadelphia so I hope Philly wins!