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It would depend on the person and the situation. And I believe that all who state categorically that they would not either have achieved perfect self-knowledge or are not yet prepared to admit that they don't completely know themselves.

That is not intended to be judgmental, only an enduring opinion.

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strictly a shemale cock lover here.
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well i should say first a cock is a cock, its the body that its attached to, many of us, myself included like a female form, so i suppose if i had a very convincing CD/TV and not a real TS i might go down on him, since he looks for the most part like a girl, having an attraction to asian girls and Thai ladyboys small breasts..not a big deal, so i can just pretend she has ittie bitty titties.
would i blow a biker looking dude, or a dude in a suit or any other "regular" dude, probably not. but i am thinking about some "lets pretend time" in the local gloryhole. its just been a while since i have had a cock to suck on.
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Default i did suck a guy off one time

he had a beautiful cock but that bastard never called me back after that night i guess i gave him a run for his money.
o by the way i sucked him for almost an hour and he loved every minute of it and so did i right when he came it was like a freakin water fountain and i just sat back and watched it flow i then proceded to lick every last drop from his nice clean sexy body balls ass and of corse his beautiful cock.
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Yes. I do prefer a shemale for that matter, but I confess I love the scent and flavor of semen in my mouth, it just turns me on.
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I have absolutely no attraction to men, I hate the thought of kissing them, getting close to them and forming a relationship. However I have had sex on numerous occasions with men and believe me it is so much better than straight sex. For me tgirls offer the best of both worlds, the gorgeous feminine charms of women, whilst packing a cock for sucking and fucking.
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I'm not attracted to men at all, so I would have to say no. Then again, I've never sucked any cock, but I'm curious.
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I've never met a guy who I have even had a moments thought about sucking his cock. I love the female form, pussy (in my mouth or on my cock ), I love tgirls, shemales and pretty tv's and I love to suck their cocks and have my cock sucked by them. However, I also have a thing about being force feminised by men and/or women and during these fantasies I am forced and trained to love sucking huge black cocks especially. During these fantasies of the mind I am normally dressed as a sissy/slut and my cock is rock hard, as it is in my hand as I read or think through these scenarios.

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The first cock I sucked was a guy in his early thirties. I was in my middle teens. I met him a the local pool. He invited me back to his house, I knew he wanted sex but I was curious. He had me naked almost as soon as we got in the door. He took me in the living room and sat down in a easy chair. I stood beside him while he played with prick and rear. When he gave my cock a suck I got really heated up. He stood up and stripped down. I never saw his cock at the pool change room and when I got a look I could not believe how thick and long it was. He was a really buff guy and I was somewhat underdeveloped so there was no question who was leading this.

He sat down and told me to kneel between his legs. I got down and knew what do do from there. He was uncut with long foreskin. I kissed the head of his cock and took it in my mouth and sucked the head. It got stiff real fast. I had a look and the foreskin was stretched tight with just the tip of his head showing. I licked the tip and sucked some more. he opened the end table beside his chair and removed a tube of lube. He removed his cock from my mouth and I almost fainted when he applied it on his 8 inch prick.

He led me to the couch and put me face down across with my bottom above the arm and my legs on the floor. He opened my legs and positioned himself in between them. He told me to relaxx and rubbed my lower back for a while. Then he lubed up my hole with his finger. I spread my cheeks for him and he pushed the tip of his cock in my ass. It was not long before he had it all in there while was squealing and bucking getting it for the first time.

He came like a horse squirting come all over my ass. Then he layed me down on my back and sucked until I squirted in his mouth. I was so worked up he only had to suck for few seconds before I was finished. I serviced him all summed naked between his legs sucking his cock. These days I like mounting fem boys and some women. But I do still suck every fem boy's cock before I bend them over.
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The first cock I sucked was a guy in his early thirties. I was in my middle teens. I met him a the local pool. He invited me back to his house, I knew he wanted sex but I was curious. He had me naked almost as soon as we got in the door. He took me in the living room and sat down in a easy chair. I stood beside him while he played with prick and rear. When he gave my cock a suck I got really heated up. He stood up and stripped down. I never saw his cock at the pool change room and when I got a look I could not believe how thick and long it was. He was a really buff guy and I was somewhat underdeveloped so there was no question who was leading this.

He sat down and told me to kneel between his legs. I got down and knew what do do from there. He was uncut with long foreskin. I kissed the head of his cock and took it in my mouth and sucked the head. It got stiff real fast. I had a look and the foreskin was stretched tight with just the tip of his head showing. I licked the tip and sucked some more. he opened the end table beside his chair and removed a tube of lube. He removed his cock from my mouth and I almost fainted when he applied it on his 8 inch prick.

He led me to the couch and put me face down across with my bottom above the arm and my legs on the floor. He opened my legs and positioned himself in between them. He told me to relaxx and rubbed my lower back for a while. Then he lubed up my hole with his finger. I spread my cheeks for him and he pushed the tip of his cock in my ass. It was not long before he had it all in there while was squealing and bucking getting it for the first time.

He came like a horse squirting come all over my ass. Then he layed me down on my back and sucked until I squirted in his mouth. I was so worked up he only had to suck for few seconds before I was finished. I serviced him all summed naked between his legs sucking his cock. These days I like mounting fem boys and some women. But I do still suck every fem boy's cock before I bend them over.
Great story. How about I suck your cock, then you can bend me over and stick it in my ass.
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If I was all dressed up, the mood was right, and the situation "presented" itself. I might try it.
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Only if he was a good looking Crossdresser,and if he was Asian(i have a thing for Asians lol).
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Definitey not.
Then why in my fantasies, when I'm forced to dress like a slut - heels I can hardly walk in, stockings, tight shiney clothes, drag queen hair and lots of make-up - do I like to be made to suck large black cock as black men spank my little white ass?
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No fucking way.

If real girls had cocks, I probs wouldn't even like trannies. Always been disgusted by men, even if they have a nice cock. Some guys also have nice asses, but I'm not fucking a guy in the ass either.
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No fucking way.

If real girls had cocks, I probs wouldn't even like trannies. Always been disgusted by men, even if they have a nice cock. Some guys also have nice asses, but I'm not fucking a guy in the ass either.
"real girls" *bangs head on desk*

Well this "fake girl" read your past posts, and I wonder if you wouldn't be more comfortable posting on some Fem Domme site since your only attraction to Tgs is our ability to plow your hetero-boy ass better than those pseky GGs with strap-ons. Perhaps you could join a site like that and give those "real girls" some pointers and leave gals like us alone.
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"real girls" *bangs head on desk*

Well this "fake girl" read your past posts, and I wonder if you wouldn't be more comfortable posting on some Fem Domme site since your only attraction to Tgs is our ability to plow your hetero-boy ass better than those pseky GGs with strap-ons. Perhaps you could join a site like that and give those "real girls" some pointers and leave gals like us alone.
I love the way you said that, girl.
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"real girls" *bangs head on desk*

Well this "fake girl" read your past posts, and I wonder if you wouldn't be more comfortable posting on some Fem Domme site since your only attraction to Tgs is our ability to plow your hetero-boy ass better than those pseky GGs with strap-ons. Perhaps you could join a site like that and give those "real girls" some pointers and leave gals like us alone.
lol i love your response bionca

to the OP here is my answer.

all my life i've never been attracted to men at all, and still am not. But lately i've been looking into the BDSM side of sex, and think that i would like to (but doubt that i ever will) have a mistress (GG or Transsexual doesn't really make much difference to me). i'm not sure why, but the thought of a mistress feminizing me (dressing me in female's clothing etc) and making me suck and get fucked by guys excites me, which is kind of weird. though i wouldn't enjoy being made to do it all the time i think it would be kind of fun to try. but as i said this is just a fantasy of mine.

so in short, no i wouldn't go out to find a guy to suck and/or fuck, but if i had a mistress who tied me up/made me do it then yea i probably would
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"real girls" *bangs head on desk*

Well this "fake girl" read your past posts, and I wonder if you wouldn't be more comfortable posting on some Fem Domme site since your only attraction to Tgs is our ability to plow your hetero-boy ass better than those pseky GGs with strap-ons. Perhaps you could join a site like that and give those "real girls" some pointers and leave gals like us alone.
Hey, I'm sorry you're offended, but I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me.

After discovering I like trannies, I've become really bored of real girls wearing strap ons. I just wish real girls had cocks, and would fuck as good as trannies do. From my personal tastes, the only thing trannies offer over real girls is the cock, I could never date one or be intimate with one.

I'm sorry you're offended, but this is how I feel. I can't change that. I hope you're happy with yourself, and find a good guy who truly loves a tranny. I'm just not one of them.
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I used to think I would never suck a man's cock, just like every other guy in here, because men don't turn me on.
But I did, and I enjoyed pleasing someone else, so I donno, I guess a cock is a cock, I just don't get turned on by sucking off a masculin looking person.
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Hey, I'm sorry you're offended, but I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me.

After discovering I like trannies, I've become really bored of real girls wearing strap ons. I just wish real girls had cocks, and would fuck as good as trannies do. From my personal tastes, the only thing trannies offer over real girls is the cock, I could never date one or be intimate with one.

I'm sorry you're offended, but this is how I feel. I can't change that. I hope you're happy with yourself, and find a good guy who truly loves a tranny. I'm just not one of them.

I am hardly offended, pleased actually that you are honest enough with yourself that you are comfortable admitting that you are the exact sort of social coward we have to deal with when dating.

I hope you will be honest like that if you do find some deceptive, fake, false, imitation "not real girl" to act as your living dildo. But I kinda doubt it, since an amazing number of guys who are after a kinky "experience" are not known for anything close to honesty in their pursuits. After all it's not like you are lying to a "real" girl, and fake chicks aren't entitled to anything more than deceptive guys.

Why wouldn't I be happy with myself. I walked through a personal hell, sacrificed my family and a great guy who had to die so I could live. I meet challenges you can never dream of and have a personal strength you will never begin to understand. I am what makes men quiver with desire, tremble in extacy, and cry out with joy. I can bend a man to my will without even trying. I am after all a woman who knows what men really deep down need, crave, desire. I am a woman by choice and determination - blood sweat and tears. What could a man-child like you honestly offer a woman like me... seriously??
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I think,like most guys on this site i would imagine,would not consider pleasuring another man in that way,but when we look at a transexual would make love to her and pleasure her anyway we could.
I for one,want very much to have a committed relationship.Maybe the only reason for this is because a trasexual really knows what a man wants,not just sexually,but in every aspect of our lives,more or less.
I have had a fair few relationships with women and can honestly say that i have never been happy or satisfied,maybe that is true for a lot of guys here,i don't know,but it seems to me to be a logical step,maybe that is what it is all about,two people coming together and finding peace and contentment in their relationship.
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Hey, I'm sorry you're offended, but I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me.

After discovering I like trannies, I've become really bored of real girls wearing strap ons. I just wish real girls had cocks, and would fuck as good as trannies do. From my personal tastes, the only thing trannies offer over real girls is the cock, I could never date one or be intimate with one.

I'm sorry you're offended, but this is how I feel. I can't change that. I hope you're happy with yourself, and find a good guy who truly loves a tranny. I'm just not one of them.
someguy, by you're logic as long as a transsexual was feminine, the only thing "real girls" as you call them offer over M2F's is the ability to bear children. You obviously prefer TS women by what you said. "I just wish real girls had cocks, and would fuck as good as trannies do." meaning obviously you prefer sex with transsexuals than with Genetic Girls, or GG's as we call them. Personally, I just think you're homophobic and worry too much about what your friends and family think of you, and you are only lying to yourself by saying that you aren't. Open up, explore your sexuality and be comfortable and proud of who you are. If I wasn't living at home and could find a hangout for TS's where I am, I would find and date one and damn whoever wants to say otherwise.

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Real girls offer a lot more to me than just giving birth. I connect to real girls emotionally, and they have pussy as well, which I also like, but not as much as cocks.

Also, when it comes to a real girl that I like, I pretty much want to do everything I can with her. When it comes to a tranny, there are loads of things I could never do with them sexually. Rimming, giving anal sex, kissing. The thought of doing that with a tranny just weirds me out.

I'm not a politically correct person. I don't consider them real girls, because they are not. They can be very good imitations, but that's about as far as it can go as far as I'm concerned.

I mean, don't get me wrong, trannies are pretty cool. But the benefits of a real girl far out weight a tranny for my personal preferences. Don't get me started on trannies who can't get hard either. I mean, that right there pretty much kills off any sexual interest I have in them completely.

My intention here is not to offend any one, but to be honest about what I like, and what I don't like. I don't like being attacked over it.

Bionca, apart from saying I hope you find a guy who will love you, I have nothing else to say to you.

Maybe I should just leave the forum, and enjoy the trannies by myself so I don't offend any one.
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I would implore you to stick around. And I ask that as a TG person who is currently married, generally consider myself lesbian...Ocassionaly bi, because there ARE some hot men out there! Point being, I'm not exactly the "model" transgendered person...So it goes!

I will stab my own self-esteem in the stomach with this comment...But you're absolutely right! Just because TS-type people fashion themselves a different sex does not magically make them so! They can go through many attempts at becoming something they are not, but they are still grasping at straws. And I'm as guilty as anyone of this. But I'm a HUGE fan of biology, and the fact is EVERYONE is born with one set of chromosomes. Until science has a "magical" process to reverse the chromosomes that we're born with, you are what you're born...Either an XX or an XY. And whether you've got a dick to testify or not is ultimately a moot point...

Now talking things like "sex" versus "gender" is a more complicated topic as far as these discussions go!
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And back to the topic at hand...

Sucking off guys...It's nothing I'm opposed to. But blowing a man is sort of weird for me. The one (and only!) threesome I ever had just reeked of weirdness! The guy was such a sweetheart, and one that I fantasized about over the years. I still think he's a sweetheart. But the ACTUAL act of it was a bit different! Subtle things that you'd NEVER expect surface. Things like smell, body hair, etc. And yes, there was sexual momentum on the surface. But 24 hrs later...Well, we both mutually agreed that it was a sort of weird scene! Considering things like this...I'm not opposed to blowing guys in the future. But I'm definitely more of a "pussy-licker" in the short, and I just LOVE vagina more than cock.
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Hey there, Someguy2 --

You said: "I'm not a politically correct person... My intention here is not to offend any one, but to be honest about what I like and what I don't like. I don't like being attacked over it." Well, first of all, I don't think anyone here is trying to attack you per se -- it's just that for someone expressing a real interest in transgenders, you're kind of confusing us with some of your statements (but I'll get to that in a second). You also said "Maybe I should just leave the forum, and enjoy the trannies by myself so I don't offend any one". Well, I agree with GRH and would suggest you consider sticking around. I think you'd have fun and enjoy things MORE by hanging out on the boards and talking with people and sharing your viewpoints. Trust me, there's always wide-ranging opinions around this place! But overall, the people here are incredibly nice and genuinely interested in trading opinions, so I think you should stay.

Now, speaking for myself -- and I don't mean any of this to sound like I'm attacking you -- I'm just a little confused by some of the things you said. For example, in your first post you said: "Always been disgusted by men, even if they have a nice cock"...but THEN you turned right around and said two posts later: "I connect to real girls emotionally and they have pussy as well (which I also like), but not as much as cocks."

So, you're disgusted by men, yet you like cocks more than pussy?
Well, that sort of strikes me as two conflicting statements.

Also, in your first post, you said: "If real girls had cocks, I probs wouldn't even like trannies" (okay, so we're back to you liking cocks)...THEN you said in your second post: "I just wish real girls had cocks and would fuck as good as trannies do. From my personal tastes, the only thing trannies offer over real girls is the cock" (okay, so you still really, really like cocks)...but THEN, after all of that build-up, you finally concluded in your third post: "Don't get me wrong, trannies are pretty cool. But the benefits of a real girl far out weigh a tranny for my personal preferences."

So, you seem to be saying trannies are good (after all, you love that cock)...but they're only SO good. They're only good up to a CERTAIN point. In other words, they're good as sexual objects...but that's where it ends. That's the line in the sand for you.

For example, you said: "When it comes to a real girl that I like, I pretty much want to do everything I can with her. When it comes to a tranny, there are loads of things I could never do with them sexually. Rimming, giving anal sex, kissing. The thought of doing that with a tranny just weirds me out"...yet THEN you said "Don't get me started on trannies who can't get hard either. I mean, that right there pretty much kills off any sexual interest I have in them completely."

So, again, I'm sort of left scratching my head. Because it's like you're blowing up a balloon...blowing it up more and more...but JUST as the balloon gets inflated, you suddenly pull out a pin and pop it and say "Well, that's enough of THAT." In other words, you'll say "I like cocks more than pussy...cocks get me hot...therefore trannies are cool...and trannies with hard cocks definitely get me hot...but wait, they're not as cool as girls. But I sure do wish girls had cocks and could fuck like trannies." At which point POP! There goes the balloon.

All in all, I think I get where you're coming from. Like many TS fans, I take it you like highly feminine looking transgenders -- the classic ultra passable photo model who can strip and pose hard -- but that's it. You like looking at them...they turn you on...you might even jerk off to them at home...but you couldn't imagine actually being around a REAL transgendered person, because if she ever gave you a simple kiss on the cheek that would "weird you out."

Well, right off the bat, that whole "I couldn't even kiss a trannie" line puts you a bit at odds with many of the guys here. After all, go visit the DATING section and you'll find loads of guys who bemoan that they can't even meet a real transgender where they live, let alone have a chance at taking one out on a date. Not to mention there's a whole other slew of other guys here who not only would love to kiss a TS, but they dream of saving up enough money so they can take a trip to Thailand, all in the hope of picking up Amy (or some other TS star) and living out their sexual dream.

So, in that respect, given why most guys are attracted to TS porn, I have to say I do find it a bit curious that you openly say you like cock more than pussy...that a hard TS gets you hot and going sexually...yet the thought of even kissing a TS completely weirds you out. So again -- as I said at the top of this post -- I'm definitely NOT trying to pick on you. I'm just curious by the contradiction that seems to exist there.

ANYWAY... I think all of that leads to what Bionca wrote. I think she simply took large offense to your statement: "I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me." You later rammed this point home by adding: "I don't consider them real girls, because they are not. They can be very good imitations, but that's about as far as it can go as far as I'm concerned."

Well, here's the bottom line: in the TS community, that's the equivalent of slapping them hard across the face with the ultimate level of disrespect since they DO consider themselves to be female and they WANT that side of themselves to be recognized and accepted by the world at large. So saying she's not a "real girl" and taking it further and calling her "an imitation" (at best) and THEN taking it the distance by saying "Hey, so long as you LOOK like a girl, that'll do" -- as if merely slapping on some lipstick and stockings is all that it takes for Bionca to define herself -- sort of demeans her feelings, if not her entire sense of self-being or self-worth. Saying it only matters that she LOOKS the part completely discredits what someone like Bionca actually FEELS about herself and her own identity.

So, if you're only looking to get off on the porn side of things, that's cool. If there's something about looking at professionally shot pictures of a very sexy, ultra passable, rock hard TS posing nude that makes you want to unzip your pants and jerk off in private, that's fine. I have no problem with that. There's more than enough guys around this place who feel exactly the same. Hell, let's be frank -- there's OBVIOUSLY more than enough guys who secretly feel that way, which is why TS porn has exploded in recent years.

On the other hand, I'd just give you a friendly bit of advice -- but I'm sure you're already aware of this deep down inside. Just try to remember that much like Jenna Jameson or a porn star is not indicative of the average woman you're going to meet in your daily life, the same is true for TS porn. Is it hot fun to jerk off to Areeya or Amy? Sure. But the transgendered community is about REAL flesh and blood people with REAL feelings, and they have more than enough problems as it is fighting for recognition and equality and justice and all sorts of things -- even simple acceptance by the world at large -- and that's why a blunt "in your face" comment like telling them they're not "real women" or calling them "imitations" or saying "so long as you look good, that's ALL that matters" isn't going to make them very happy. Whether you want to accept or believe this, they are women and they certainly consider themselves to be, so they're just looking for a bit of respect.

Which frankly, I don't think should be very hard for any of us to give them as fellow human beings.
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... Why wouldn't I be happy with myself. I walked through a personal hell, sacrificed my family and a great guy who had to die so I could live. I meet challenges you can never dream of and have a personal strength you will never begin to understand. I am what makes men quiver with desire, tremble in extacy, and cry out with joy. I can bend a man to my will without even trying. I am after all a woman who knows what men really deep down need, crave, desire. I am a woman by choice and determination - blood sweat and tears. ...
Wow! BRAVO Bionca! Props go out to you! That is an AMAZING statement. I feel humbled now, but ... Is it ok if while I was reading this, that I was turned on?
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I really tried to read all of that, but it's too long. You've overly analyzing everything I say. I'm just gonna make some small statements. You can debate them if you want, but they are just what I feel.

- I like cock, more than pussy. It's not contradictory when you think about it. I like female ass, but not a guy's ass. I just find pussy a bit boring, but it's still nice from time to time. When I watch tranny porn, I see them as women, even though I know logically they are not.

- When trannies have everything real women do like a vagina, boobs, be able to give birth etc etc, then I will consider them real girls. Until then, they can only be good imitations at best. I'm sorry if some trannies can't handle that, but I am a man of science, and when I compare trannies to real girls, I don't get a match.

I don't know what else to say here, I've stated my positions on things already.
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I really tried to read all of that, but it's too long. You've overly analyzing everything I say. I'm just gonna make some small statements. You can debate them if you want, but they are just what I feel.

- I like cock, more than pussy. It's not contradictory when you think about it. I like female ass, but not a guy's ass. I just find pussy a bit boring, but it's still nice from time to time. When I watch tranny porn, I see them as women, even though I know logically they are not.

- When trannies have everything real women do like a vagina, boobs, be able to give birth etc etc, then I will consider them real girls. Until then, they can only be good imitations at best. I'm sorry if some trannies can't handle that, but I am a man of science, and when I compare trannies to real girls, I don't get a match.

I don't know what else to say here, I've stated my positions on things already.
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I really tried to read all of that, but it's too long. You've overly analyzing everything I say. I'm just gonna make some small statements. You can debate them if you want, but they are just what I feel.

- I like cock, more than pussy. It's not contradictory when you think about it. I like female ass, but not a guy's ass. I just find pussy a bit boring, but it's still nice from time to time. When I watch tranny porn, I see them as women, even though I know logically they are not.

- When trannies have everything real women do like a vagina, boobs, be able to give birth etc etc, then I will consider them real girls. Until then, they can only be good imitations at best. I'm sorry if some trannies can't handle that, but I am a man of science, and when I compare trannies to real girls, I don't get a match.

I don't know what else to say here, I've stated my positions on things already.
Point 1) "I see them as women"

Point 2) "They are imitations (of women) at best"

This pumpkin is a dangerous mental gymnastic you are playing around with. They are women while the sex act is being performed... then lying liars when you are done. They are "disgusting" "weird" (your words) gay men who just poked you in the ass. You can't bring yourself to talk to them much less kiss one.

I'm not getting into biology, identity, cultural constructs with you because if you can't follow Creative Mind's post you won't get it anyway. I will say one thing. You share the thoughts almost word for word with the guy who sexually assaulted me (raped me) and then sent me to the hospital because he couldn't handle what just happened and used my face against a wall for a few minutes. Check how this stuff comes together for you if you ever do meet a "tranny" because there will be a before a during and an after.
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I'm not debating someone who not only misrepresents my positions, but also makes some of my positions up.

As for Creative's post, it was poorly formatted and a wall of text. If he wanted a response, he should have made it easier to read, and shorter.

At the end of the day you are trying to debate how I feel about trannies, and why I am, and am not attracted to them. It's pretty ridiculous.
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I'm not debating someone who not only misrepresents my positions, but also makes some of my positions up.

As for Creative's post, it was poorly formatted and a wall of text. If he wanted a response, he should have made it easier to read, and shorter.

At the end of the day you are trying to debate how I feel about trannies, and why I am, and am not attracted to them. It's pretty ridiculous.
What has been misrepresented and what has been made up?

Whatever - about Creative Mind's post. It looks like he went to some trouble to read what you had to say.

At the end of the day don't give a damn WHY you are attracted to Trans*women or what you particularly want to do with one. I'm pointing out that your "real women" comments imply that I and other trans*women are simply fake, fraudulent, deceptive, liars, counterfeit simulations of "real" women. Thus in your mind we are simply men who grew some tits - not a totally incorrect statement.

Couple this with your rather open "disgust" (your word) with the idea of and expression of intimacy between gay men makes me wonder what would happen if you did actually get your butt-sex with a tranny.

I'm not even getting into the actual analysis of your posts and the use of "I'm not PC" as some sort of excuse not to listen to or think about what someone is telling you.

Perhaps a little clarification can help. Why do you think people transition from male to female?
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I'm not debating with you, but I will answer some of your questions. I'm really tired of this topic now.

If I had butt sex with a tranny, I'd thank the tranny, and treat them as I would a woman because that's what they really want. I wouldn't treat them as a girlfriend, but I would treat them like I do other women.

I'm not sure I'd really want to have sex with a tranny anyway. When I'm watching the trannies, I am looking at them as women. In reality, I know they're not the same, so I doubt I could ever have sex with one.

The women I see on my PC, and the women I jack off about don't exist in reality. I use trannies as a way of fulfilling my desires of a real woman with a cock.

When it comes to what I think of trannies. Well I think they are just confused people, or formerly confused people, trying to make their own way in this World just like everyone else.

If the term real girls bothers you so much, I'll stop using it after this post.
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As for Creative's post, it was poorly formatted and a wall of text. If he wanted a response, he should have made it easier to read, and shorter.
Actually, I'll accept that criticism, no problem. I SHOULD have split such a long post into different parts, since I was addressing different things. So, I apologize. However, since you mentioned that you didn't read all of my post...you quit early on...I'd simply like to repeat what I said at the end (since it was the important part). And I don't think this should be too long or hard to digest...

Flat out, Bionica took offense to your statement: "I don't consider trannies to be real girls. As long as they look like real girls, that's enough for me." You later added: "I don't consider them real girls, because they are not. They can be very good imitations, but that's about as far as it can go."

In the TS community, that's the equivalent of slapping them across the face since they DO consider themselves to be female and WANT that side to be recognized and accepted by the world. So saying she's not a "real girl" or is just an "imitation" and THEN taking it the distance by saying "Hey, so long as you LOOK like a girl, that'll do" -- as if slapping on lipstick and stockings is all that it takes for Bionca to define herself -- demeans her feelings, if not her entire sense of self-being and self-worth. Saying it only matters that she LOOKS the part discredits what Bionca actually FEELS about her own identity.

So, if you're only looking to get off on the porn side of things, that's cool. If looking at pictures of a sexy, rock hard, ultra passable TS makes you want to jerk off in private, that's fine. There's more than enough guys who feel the same. Hell, there's obviously a ton of guys who feel that way, which is why TS porn has exploded in recent years.

On the other hand, some friendly advice. Try to remember that much like Jenna Jameson or a porn star isn't indicative of the average woman you'll meet in life, the same is true for TS porn. Is it fun jerking off to superstars like Areeya or Amy? Sure. But the transgendered community is about REAL flesh and blood people with REAL feelings, and they have more than enough problems fighting for even simple acceptance. And that's why blunt terms like "not real women" or "imitation" or "so long as you look good that's ALL that matters" isn't going to make them very happy. Whether you want to believe this or not, they are women inside and consider themselves to be, so they're just looking for a little bit of respect.

Which I don't think should be hard for any of us to give as fellow human beings.
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I'll be brief. I usually am. My dear friend, Bionca, has posted and reposted to great length to make her point. Sadly it hasn't seemed to 'register" or affected anyone's viewpoint, even though she is correct. I am a bit older than Bionca and I have thus far not responded here. That comes from a piece of wisdom I learned some time ago.
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For me, it's simple. In world where most of are just trying to get by, get along, and find a tiny bit of warmth and happiness, it's up to each individual to define what is "real" for her or him. That's why Bionca, Fran, and anyone else is as real a girl as any other girl.

Who in the hell is any one of us to argue with them about that??!!
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What has been misrepresented and what has been made up?

Whatever - about Creative Mind's post. It looks like he went to some trouble to read what you had to say.

At the end of the day don't give a damn WHY you are attracted to Trans*women or what you particularly want to do with one. I'm pointing out that your "real women" comments imply that I and other trans*women are simply fake, fraudulent, deceptive, liars, counterfeit simulations of "real" women. Thus in your mind we are simply men who grew some tits - not a totally incorrect statement.

Couple this with your rather open "disgust" (your word) with the idea of and expression of intimacy between gay men makes me wonder what would happen if you did actually get your butt-sex with a tranny.

I'm not even getting into the actual analysis of your posts and the use of "I'm not PC" as some sort of excuse not to listen to or think about what someone is telling you.

Perhaps a little clarification can help. Why do you think people transition from male to female?
Ah, gender definitions.

I've seen that the facilitation of intimacy is based on much more than an assigned "gender". it's about your relationship with that person, about how you and that person's goals and attractions mesh. Whether they are a woman or a man or anything "in between" (referring to the so-called "fake" category of genders being discussed), it's not about that. it's about feelings. I agree with Bionca, in that the alleged "authenticity" of the gender is not what truly matters, but rather what that person emotionally and physically means to you.

I just finished writing a paper about social gender identity. I've really started to do alot of school work with sexuality since i realized that i was both attracted to tgirls and bisexual. lol
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Interesting point Phenom, and I agree wholeheartedly. I have to say, I wouldn't limit myself to any one sex/gender. But historically, I've been attracted to women. I'm also attracted to other TG/TS to some extent. And to a limited extent I like men...

But let me expound. With women, I feel I connect emotionally, spiritually, sexually, intimately, and on issues of import. I suspect (I'm hypothesizing) that it would be similar if I were in a relationship with a TG/TS. But with a man...It gets more complicated. With a man, I feel that we might share some similar ambitions or goals, and I have no doubt that I could connect on certain sexual levels. But I don't know if I could ever connect intimately or emotionally the way I do with women, and that is why I feel like it would be weird to kiss a guy, because for me, kissing is a matter of intimacy and not sexual.
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Well, I gotta say that I have. But I really had to bend over backwards (no pun intended) to find very fem asian guys, smooth, girly figure and facial features. Can't say I would be attracted to anything that's reminds me too much of masculinity.
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that's hot, u were his little blowjob buddy? Did he ever want to fuck you ?
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yes cocks good 2 suck, be it males or shemales, but cant do it for everyone.... i should be attracted towards them..
when in school i had quite a few ( 7 about) partners for suckin n gettin sucked.
we did it in the ass too. but i feel equal pleasure wid girls as well.

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