Does liking shemales make you gay?

[JodieTs]

Own up.
Whose favourite film is Top Gun?

[Melissa Pink]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

Own up.
Whose favourite film is Top Gun?

Hahahahahaha! Great post Jodie!

Yup! Top Gun may have more gay metaphors than any "straight" movie to ever come out of Hollywood! Iceman and Maverick? Give me a break! LOL!

[gobucks789]

I am a straight identified man, I have never been with another guy, and I am not turned on by mens bodies in the slightest. When I see athletic/muscled/hairy guys at the gym I am turned off and uninterested. I am really into ladyboys or shemales or whatever it is I should be refering to them as. I show respect to everyone but I don't think I am gay or bi. IS anyone else here this way?????

[LadyboyJerker]

Hello, gobucks789.

Well, many here are on the same principal as yours. Some are turned on by a cock which means they can be attracted to men but not because they are the same gender but because of the penis. What I mean is, that for now you truly believe that you are turned on only by a shemale/transsexual/ladyboy etc. But after some time you could find yourself turned on by a penis. You may not like how the men look but once they're naked and you see their hard cock you can think of it more intimately. After all, as long as you are attracted by boobs, tits, pussy, you are straight on this but the likeness of cocks may make be a bi-sexual. This means you are attracted to both genders. You can define yourself by exploring more of your interests and by giving your lust a result, some action. But for now, no you're not gay. You can be a bi-sexual but for now you're thinking only shemales, I believe.

[Lynn76]

I'd say first off don't worry about a category or label.I'd say we are past that and evolved.

[testbed]

In reference to the question for the title of this thread; does it really matter?

[picturetrade]

Just wanted to chime in w/ my 2??sexuality and gender I.D. Is such a complicated subject. I think that in the next 20 years, most of these complicated "labels" that Christian society wants to put on everything will disappear. The way I see it is that there is "masculine" and "feminine" and that is completely seperate from the amount of X and Y chromosomes you have and it can change for each person at any time.

I consider myself masculine and I am attracted to feminine. I love feminine women and men. Having a penis or vagina does not matter to me. There are some times I like to pretend to be feminine, though not convincingly, for sexual fun. I would never think of trying to be feminine full time as it is just not who I am.

This has always been confusing to me until lately because I am completely in interested in "men" sexually but when a feminine guy has a pretty face, throws on a skirt and stockings, and is naturally feminine, I am all in. Even with a strong attraction to these feminine men I never have considered myself "gay" I it really irritates me when people try to label me as gay.

[ila]

Originally Posted by picturetrade

Just wanted to chime in w/ my 2??sexuality and gender I.D. Is such a complicated subject. I think that in the next 20 years, most of these complicated "labels" that Christian society wants to put on everything will disappear. The way I see it is that there is "masculine" and "feminine" and that is completely seperate from the amount of X and Y chromosomes you have and it can change for each person at any time.

Do you really think that it's only Christians who give labels to others?

[CCC]

Originally Posted by ila

Do you really think that it's only Christians who give labels to others?

That is exactly what I was thinking. Never mind Jewish peoples etc--how about Muslims--they would likely slice and dice your dick while you watched.

[davidovich]

Originally Posted by CCC

That is exactly what I was thinking. Never mind Jewish peoples etc--how about Muslims--they would likely slice and dice your dick while you watched.

It is shameful that someone gets to post a racist stereotype like this. I know Muslims who support marriage equality and LGBT rights, and the post was about labeling, not violence.

[atey771]

I think I would enjoy a trans in my relationship. I can say for sure I have never looked at a man the way I look at a t-girl. Problem is I would like to find some so I can see if it feels right having a relationship. So far my success of finding one dismal at best.

[ncguy]

No it dosen't make you gay. I love women, maybe too much... I have to watch myself as I have some ladies in the family I have had sex with and others I would love to have sex with (as well as women outside the family...just sayin'), but I am attracted to ladyboys as well! Just letting you know a lot of people I've met have other kinks and fetishes along with wanting a gurl to cum down your throat. Something about a feminine body with a hard cock that, well, makes me wanna jump on 'em!

[belfagar]

I love this personal debate one has over "does this make me gay?"
I have recently brought my personal interests up with my spouse, she is not concerned by my sexuality. In fact it turns her on. Sexuality is something that seems to be more like a sliding scale. The scale belongs to you.
I don't plan on exposing all of my personal thoughts and feelings to all of the world, some things should be kept close to oneself and their open minded partner.
I feel good about me, I wish everyone could feel as good.

[georgedemesa]

That was my first impression for my self when i was fortst attracted to a shemales .Im thinking Ami gay ?but now i dont care i love shemales specially their cock better keep it a secret for myself

[MagicMonkey77]

Gay suggests your attraction to a member of the same sex, as I'm not a T-Girl I'm not gay .
T-Girls are women with genitals I know what to do with lol

MM xx.

[sosed]

In my opinion it depend on every individual himself, so everyone could give answer for himself. Some males wrongly consider Tgirls as males because of their male genitals. In that case they could consider themselves as gays, because they are interested in her masculinity represented by her penis. Those who knows Tgirls are women although they have male genitals and are interested in her femininity could not consider themselves as gays, because they like woman.

[Mary80]

No I don't think it does, as gay is two people of the same gender and shemales I would class as women. So you guys should stop worrying about it just enjoy life

[Barrackubus]

Perception is reality. What is it that you percieve or believe about it. Do you see a gorgeous sexy woman or do you see something else. What about the perception of the shemale you like. Does she percieve herself as a male. Probably not I would assume and in some way she may not consider being liked as being gay. She wants to be desired because of her femininity not out of any masculine traits. And you would desire her because of her womaness, so no I don't think it makes you gay anymore than it does.her.

[shmlvr66]

Of course NOT. To be gay in my opinion is to be attracted and involved romantically to ones own gender. While my attraction to Shemales is purely sexual.

[smc]

Originally Posted by shmlvr66

Of course NOT. To be gay in my opinion is to be attracted and involved romantically to ones own gender. While my attraction to Shemales is purely sexual.

"Gay" expresses sexual orientation, as is "heterosexual" or "bisexual" and other such terms. Ones sexual orientation has nothing whatsoever to do with "romantic involvement." For example, if former U.S. Senator Larry Craig is romantically involved with his wife, but also has sex with men with whom he has no romantic involvement, it does not make calling him gay or bisexual incorrect.

You are entitled, as is everyone, to define your own sexual orientation. You are not entitled to change established, accepted definition of words and terms to suit your personal interests.

[CakeWagon]

If it's hot it doesn't matter to me

[cumshooter69]

Originally Posted by CakeWagon

If it's hot it doesn't matter to me

I agree, why label it just enjoy it.

[MacShreach]

Originally Posted by smc

"Gay" expresses sexual orientation, as is "heterosexual" or "bisexual" and other such terms. Ones sexual orientation has nothing whatsoever to do with "romantic involvement." For example, if former U.S. Senator Larry Craig is romantically involved with his wife, but also has sex with men with whom he has no romantic involvement, it does not make calling him gay or bisexual incorrect.

You are entitled, as is everyone, to define your own sexual orientation. You are not entitled to change established, accepted definition of words and terms to suit your personal interests.

Hah! So this is where all the interesting people went.

Anyway, your point is well made but there is a problem. Since Kinsey has appeared already, he's a good illustration. His research into human sexuality was based upon a strictly binary interpretation of gender--masculine or feminine. Clearly, Kinsey's work is the best (only) large-scale study we have, but the fact is that the rise in the apparent numbers of transgendered people, and the concomitant rise in numbers of people attracted to them, questions the binary interpretation of gender.

In fact there is as much of a range of gender expression as there is of attraction (cf Roughgarden, Evolution's Rainbow). This does not negate Kinsey but it does pose problems with interpretation thereof. The term 'homosexual' only came to mean 'manly men attracted to other manly men' in the 1970s, but we know, for example from the London 'molly-houses' of the 18th C as well as many many other examples that same-sex attraction where the individuals do not play the same gender role, is in fact much older and could be stated to be the norm. Furthermore these examples--and there are many--clearly reflect a range of gender expression that had been going on for a long time, but has been suppressed and conflated with sexual attraction, something I question.

This is absolutely not to suggest that transwomen are not women--they are. However in some ways their position is actually more clear than that of men who are attracted to them, largely because, at least until very recently, there was no term describing them other than pejoratives. Now I would describe myself as heterosexual but transattracted; I see transwomen as women but I recognise that I do have a specific attraction to them because of their transgender status. I venture to suggest this might apply to other men in my position. Clearly there are also men who are homosexual but transattracted, and bisexual but transattracted.

IMO transattraction is a valid expression of sexual desire; words like 'chaser' and 'admirer' are clearly derogatory to such men, and we need to rid ourselves of them, just as we need to rid ourselves of terms like 'tranny' or 'shemale'.

What this also means is that words like 'gay' 'straight' and 'bisexual' really do need to be revisited in the light of this phenomenon. We might discover that transattraction is indeed another, discrete, sexual preference (which is my hunch). But there is simply no research on this. Furthermore, Kinsey shows us that there is no black and white; his seven categories (someone said 6 but they forgot 0 I think) are still valid. However we should, biological variation applied, find that the same is true for transattraction; that there is a scale from 0-6 (say) going from fully cis-attracted to fully transattracted. Furthermore this must necessarily relate to the conventional understanding of sexual attraction, for how else would we explain a ciswoman who is attracted to transwomen, or a cisman who is attracted to transmen? (And these examples do really exist.)

So while I agree with your general proposition, that we cannot just make up or manipulate terms to suit ourselves, we do have a problem if the understood meanings of these terms do not adequately describe reality.

[ila]

Originally Posted by MacShreach

...Clearly, Kinsey's work is the best (only) large-scale study we have, but the fact is that the rise in the apparent numbers of transgendered people, and the concomitant rise in numbers of people attracted to them, questions the binary interpretation of gender...

Do you have any statistics to back up the part of your statement that is in bold print? I really would like to know if this is true or if it is just that transgender people are more visible now than previously.

Originally Posted by MacShreach

...IMO transattraction is a valid expression of sexual desire; words like 'chaser' and 'admirer' are clearly derogatory to such men, and we need to rid ourselves of them, just as we need to rid ourselves of terms like 'tranny' or 'shemale'...

You are right that we need to get rid of derogatory terms.

[gj22]

I only like girls and shemales, but not men, i dont consider myself gay. I am only attracted to feminine qualities.

[tunafish]

i like women and shemales-i've tried with some men but i was excited by the idea and doing it was a very turn off..

[ImNotSure]

Ok, so, I am really turned on by shemales (transexual's). I'm not into dude's, just Shemales and women, but im not sure if i would be classified as gay or what. Ive had gay thoughts but ive never been turned on by them, however if i think about shemales or women sexually i get turned on. Im not sure and it botheres me, id just like to hear what everyone thoughts on this is. (This is my first thread i have ever posted, so if i messed it up, sorry)

[franalexes]

Originally Posted by ImNotSure

Ok, so, I am really turned on by shemales (transexual's). I'm not into dude's, just Shemales and women, but im not sure if i would be classified as gay or what. Ive had gay thoughts but ive never been turned on by them, however if i think about shemales or women sexually i get turned on. Im not sure and it botheres me, id just like to hear what everyone thoughts on this is. (This is my first thread i have ever posted, so if i messed it up, sorry)

Do a search, read the forum. You are straight, bisexual at the most. Are you gay? NO. ( feel better?)

[davecess]

I think it's pretty easy to answer this question.

Deep down do you lust after a man's body? If the honest answer is no then how can you be gay?

If you lust after women either with or without a cock then you must be straight.

[priape]

didn't think about this issue: I like women, and I love shemales, but real guys totally turn me off. So I'm pretty sure I don't fit in the "gay" definition! But are definitions that important?

Originally Posted by guest

or better yet, are WE gay?

ok so for about a year now i've been extremely turned on by shemales (obviously or i wouldn't be here right now)... but i'm also very attracted to women. i really like the thought of a hard cock and large balls on a very feminine type of girl, it really turns me on. but i am confused because i see these shemales as girls, even though they have dicks. i am also very opposed to the idea of a dick in my ass, i really think it's sick and would never do it, but i would love to stick mine in a shemale. the thought of calling myself "bisexual" or gay annoys me because i don't like men at all. i don't have fantasies about wearing wemon's clothing or anything like that.. the only doubt about myself i have is my love for a women with a long hard cock. i can't talk about this to anyone personally becuase they will think i'm gay, and everyone close to me is opposed to gay things.. especially my friends, because i'm still in high school, and let's just say i'm probably younger than everyone here.

so i was wondering if anyone has similar feelings, or can give me some advice?

[cockle]

Well guys are disgusting (except me of course) Women are hot (not all) some hot chicks have dicks, still she needs some loving too.

[zoomrolf]

To get past your inhibitions, you must turn off that little voice inside you. May I recommend the teaching of Christopher Hitchens ? Then realize that as long as your not hurting someone else, and it feels good, anything is fair game.
Get started in Nana Plaza Bangkok. Cascades. Let one of the gorgeous ladyboys there get you going . yea !

[daveblue]

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what label you give yourself straight, gay or bi ladyboys or shemales are as much women as their genetic counterparts. The fact that they have hard dicks and will fill you with their cum is just an added bonus and one that we should all take advantage of as often as possible.

Live, love and enjoy yourself as long as no one is hurt it's all good

[smc]

Originally Posted by zoomrolf

To get past your inhibitions, you must turn off that little voice inside you. May I recommend the teaching of Christopher Hitchens ? Then realize that as long as your not hurting someone else, and it feels good, anything is fair game.
Get started in Nana Plaza Bangkok. Cascades. Let one of the gorgeous ladyboys there get you going . yea !

I recommend staying as far away from Christopher Hitchens as possible.

[zoomrolf]

Liking ladyboys does not delve into the realm of gay or straight. Katoeys are a third sex. The issue is that you live in a Western society that makes judgements on sexuality. Ladyboys are fellow human beings with family, feelings and aspirations. The limitations you have are ones you place on yourself. rolf

[new_half]

Hi there, I'm exactly in the same boat as you. I actually got into ladyboys after watching a documentary about them on tv a year ago or so. I then started googling and youtubing ladyboys, eventually ending up on porn sites. It was kind of awkward at first but I was really attracted to them and the image of a hot ladyboy with a rock hard cock drives me crazy. I don't think you need to worry what others think, just do the things that make you happy. I love women as well but I think about how amazing it must be, to have a hot night of passion with a ladyboy. Don't worry friend, you are not alone on this.

[JaneD]

I like men, women and trans people - socially, personally and sexually.

I therefore class myself as 1. Lucky & 2. A greedy bitch!

[asharon]

Just go with the idea that you fancy someone and you dont need a label that is only used for other people.

[all in]

Not am I gay?... Am I happy, that's whats important. Half the world is not happy unless they are unhappy...so fuck them.
I love to eat pussy and I love to suck ladyboy or transsexual cock. I love to swollow cum. I have no desire to suck a guys cock. So what does that make me? HAPPY That's all that matters. There are so many things in live that you have no control over. You have to act on the things you can control .If it makes you happy, suck tranny cock every day, and swallow all the cum. I'd spend grocery money, if I had to, to suck tranny cock. I wouldn't suck a guy's cock for free. What does that make me? HAPPY!!!
And stop saying "one day I want to meet a tranny" . What's wrong with today? It's going to make you happy, I guarantee it. Unless you live in Bumfuck there is a tranny within an hour and if not drive farther. You're gonna love it.
I'm not gay, I'm not straight, I'm not bi, I'm HAPPY ( with a little cum right there on the corner of my mouth)

[T.S.Severe]

I was pretty queer long before I ever heard of shemales, but it was just my Jody Foster phase and I got through it with a minimum of humiliation. But yeah - for me, any sexual attraction I feel for other girls (regardless of their chromosome structure) makes me feel like a little brown dyke. Can't help it, I'm catholic.

[S_lover]

Liking shemales does not make you gay at least you are already a gay. I really like them,I wanna fuck them all night long,but that does not make me gay,you just have to realize it for your self. The sad thing is that most of people ignore you,"friends" leaves you and so on... They just cannot understand you in any possible way. Like I said,I want to meet a T girl and have sex with it,even with my girlfriend in.

[Shemalecams]

I know its easy to say but just try go with the flow and see where it takes you. I have a long term ( female ) partner who i love and who turns me on every time she takes her clothes off. It just happens that im also attracted to shemales too ( yes my partner knows ). I would never dream of cheating but if i ever end up single at some point in my life, i would probably explore it with a shemale and see what the real life experience was like. I do not consider myself gay or even bi

[jodarling]

Jesus 18 pages and going strong.

Your gay if you like the same sex as yourself, end off.

Unless your a Shemale, liking Shemales isn't gay.

[a9127]

Glad you liked it. Thanks!

I'm working on a story about the summer I spent with my friend and what might have been. My "problem" is that we were both under 18 so I have to figure out a way to deal with any sexual activity other than kissing. We were both very young (I turned 13 in August of that summer and him 11) and total virgins so I don't think anything "explicit" would have happened anyway. What I've written so far deals more with the feelings and emotional attachment I had for a person that may well have been gay or trans. I tossed out a draft that had us "fooling around" in my bedroom because I didn't think it was appropriate. I guess I could always have us going away to college together...

When I think about him now I realize that that was a pivotal relationship in my young life. I often wonder what happened to him?

[Boner]

Originally Posted by a9127

Glad you liked it. Thanks!

I'm working on a story about the summer I spent with my friend and what might have been. My "problem" is that we were both under 18 so I have to figure out a way to deal with any sexual activity other than kissing. We were both very young (I turned 13 in August of that summer and him 11) and total virgins so I don't think anything "explicit" would have happened anyway. What I've written so far deals more with the feelings and emotional attachment I had for a person that may well have been gay or trans. I tossed out a draft that had us "fooling around" in my bedroom because I didn't think it was appropriate. I guess I could always have us going away to college together...

When I think about him now I realize that that was a pivotal relationship in my young life. I often wonder what happened to him?

I read your story (really hot by the way) and think I came to like tgirls from the opposite direction. I never was attracted to guys, even feminine ones, but I've read other admirers' stories who can look back and point to someone they knew growing up who was girly that they found attractive

For me I always had a thing for amazons, big strong women who other guys would compare to men. The wrestler Chyna is a good example. People would always say she was manly but I would watch her matches on TV and get incredibly aroused thinking how much I would love to feel her muscles.

The weird thing is that when it comes to tgirls I like all types!

[a9127]

Originally Posted by Boner

I read your story (really hot by the way) and think I came to like tgirls from the opposite direction. I never was attracted to guys, even feminine ones, but I've read other admirers' stories who can look back and point to someone they knew growing up who was girly that they found attractive...

...The weird thing is that when it comes to tgirls I like all types!

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. I updated it with parts 3 and 4. Hope you like Stephanie's dance costume thanks for the idea!

Hope others on here like the story, It's definitely not a "suck and fuck a hot ladyboy" type of thing (not that there's anything wrong with fucking and sucking a hot ladyboy ). But it IS based on a real friend I had when I was very young. Just don't know if it has general appeal.

Also, like you I am attracted to strong sexy ciswomen. I thought Chyna was hot as well. My current "crush" in the sports world is Ronda Rousey.

A

[Boner]

I read the last two parts of the story. Good stuff.

[mabedzaqueen]

Originally Posted by Boner

I read your story (really hot by the way) and think I came to like tgirls from the opposite direction. I never was attracted to guys, even feminine ones, but I've read other admirers' stories who can look back and point to someone they knew growing up who was girly that they found attractive.
The weird thing is that when it comes to tgirls I like all types!

Funny, and interesting, how some of us came to like T-girls in such different ways! In my case, it followed an infatuation with a very convincing female impersonator/dancer (who still looked quite female-ish even without make-up, wig, heels and slutty clothes). But at the time (2003), i didn't know much about male-to-female transsexuals and believed they were merely transvestites who had decided to go "a step further" by adding breast implants and stuff... It took years before i became better informed about who transsexuals really are and what they go through in life

Okay, so you say you like all types of T-girls, right? Well, i like them as close to a hot young femboy as possible, with cute small breasts and without any desire to have S.R.S. ever, which i'm well aware, could make me a tad gay in the eyes of some folks (can almost hear them ask: "Why the heck is it so important for you that they keep their penis??" My reply then, would be like, "Ah you know, i just feel that's what makes them so exotic in the first place")

Besides, let's face it, if they were all post-op, forums like this one would very likely not exist...

[Boner]

Originally Posted by mabedzaqueen

Funny, and interesting, how some of us came to like T-girls in such different ways! In my case, it followed an infatuation with a very convincing female impersonator/dancer (who still looked quite female-ish even without make-up, wig, heels and slutty clothes). But at the time (2003), i didn't know much about male-to-female transsexuals and believed they were merely transvestites who had decided to go "a step further" by adding breast implants and stuff... It took years before i became better informed about who transsexuals really are and what they go through in life

Okay, so you say you like all types of T-girls, right? Well, i like them as close to a hot young femboy as possible, with cute small breasts and without any desire to have S.R.S. ever, which i'm well aware, could make me a tad gay in the eyes of some folks (can almost hear them ask: "Why the heck is it so important for you that they keep their penis??" My reply then, would be like, "Ah you know, i just feel that's what makes them so exotic in the first place")

Besides, let's face it, if they were all post-op, forums like this one would very likely not exist...

Upon further analysis, I spoke too soon. I can't honestly say I like all types of tgirls although I do find a wide variety of them attractive. Asian ladyboys don't do much for me and I can't say I'm all that in to plus size models although genetic BBWs like the zaftig Dilyara Larina excite me.

My attraction to penis is something I haven't quite figured out yet. I remember the first time I saw RuPaul. Tall, statuesque, with a stunning wardrobe, make up, and hair, I was instantly attracted. I knew she had a dick but it was easy to fantasize she didn't.

Later I saw pictures of Vanessa Del Rio sporting a strap on. The sight of this voluptuous woman with a tool was really exciting to me although I felt weird about it. Then I saw Gia Darling for the first time and everything changed! The tgirl bug bit me and bit me hard.

I used to try to block out the cock when watching transsexual porn but I came to enjoy seeing it more than vagina.

[a9127]

The more I have given this question thought the more I am convinced the answer depends entirely on the individual. In a sense, “we are all right.” The answer will be different for each of us depending on our unique experiences although we do share some common interests. Speaking totally for myself, I am attracted to the female person and “secondary” sex characteristics regardless of whether or not they have a penis or vagina. There is definitely a “type” of woman I am attracted to. This femininity could present itself in many ways: the beautiful ciswomen I have known (including my two wives), the beautiful transwomen featured on sites such as this one, a sexy crossdresser, a pretty femboy, or someone like my friend “Stephanie.”

Kelly Shore has a penis, Rakel Rodrigues has a penis, Hazel Tucker has a penis. To say I am totally smitten with all three would be an understatement. Buck Angel has a vagina, however I am not attracted to his masculine characteristics although he seems really cool and I admire his physique. Am I “gay” because I would prefer to have sex with Kelly instead of Buck? I think not. Others may disagree. My point is that our sexuality and gender identification has a lot more to do with the bigger picture and not simply what sex organs are “down there.”

Consider the many posts on this site regarding attraction to “the cock.” Do you simply like “cock” no matter what context it is presented in? Do you like it on a large muscular male? Or do you like it on a pretty, feminine, person who you would find attractive even if she was fully clothed? Personally I only find a “cock” attractive on the latter and consider sucking a beautiful transwomen’s or femboy’s penis in the same context as I would licking my wife’s clit while performing oral sex on her. If you think this is “gay” than please tell me why? Now sucking off the Indianapolis Colts… THAT I would consider “gay.” As far as having intercourse, it is not uncommon for “straight” couples to engage in anal sex. My wife and I occasionally do. So if I were to meet a beautiful transsexual and the two of us hit it off I would have no problem taking her back to my place and engaging in oral and anal sex with her (assuming I wasn’t married of course… ). Would I consider it “gay”? Hell no.

There undoubtedly is a connection between the Gay and Lesbian communities and the Trans community. I think all of us here are pretty “open minded” toward sexuality. And as this thread clearly shows, there are almost as many thoughts on this issue as there are members. Yes, some people might consider attraction to a beautiful transwoman “gay” but I think they would be wrong. Slowly society is coming around to recognizing this. So I guess the bottom line is it’s all good. It is 2015 for Christ’s sake! You should be able to fall in love with, fuck, suck, live with, marry, whatever, the person you want without having to worry about silly labels. Future generations will look back at this period in history and wonder why we were so confused and “messed up” about human sexuality. I hope I live long enough to see that day.