Barack Obama

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

If he can achieve a humane health care system, minimize our military involvements, come up with a reasonable carbon control system,

If he achieves any kind of health care system to his liking we're fucked. Who is saying we need this health care system? Yes there are a lot of people who are unemployed now, but you don't fix that by creating a permanent national health care system. We're not going to have these unemployment numbers forever. So to fix this temporary situation he's going to screw this country from now on and force everyone to accept a more expensive health care system with worse quality of service.

Originally Posted by randolph

convince us to save and be thrifty, invest in energy efficiency, create a transparent financial system and balance the budget, yes, even Tracy might admit he is a great president.

LMAO!!! You want Barack Obama to show us how to save and be thrifty??! LOLOLOLOLOLOL OMG that's funny. Surely you realize how ridiculous that sounds.

As for transparency, his town hall meetings are staged, he pre-approves reporters questions, he insists on trillion dollar bills to be rushed through congress without time to read them. I see fewer signs of transparency than there were before.

If he balances the budget I will truly call him the messiah. Because that will be a miracle after what he's done to this country.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

If he achieves any kind of health care system to his liking we're fucked. Who is saying we need this health care system? Yes there are a lot of people who are unemployed now, but you don't fix that by creating a permanent national health care system. We're not going to have these unemployment numbers forever. So to fix this temporary situation he's going to screw this country from now on and force everyone to accept a more expensive health care system with worse quality of service.




LMAO!!! You want Barack Obama to show us how to save and be thrifty??! LOLOLOLOLOLOL OMG that's funny. Surely you realize how ridiculous that sounds.

As for transparency, his town hall meetings are staged, he pre-approves reporters questions, he insists on trillion dollar bills to be rushed through congress without time to read them. I see fewer signs of transparency than there were before.

If he balances the budget I will truly call him the messiah. Because that will be a miracle after what he's done to this country.

Yes Tracy, The chances of any of this happening is remote to say the least. That's why those comments were intended to be "tongue in cheek".

On the other hand, if Obama is so bad why is the stock market doing so well?
Some of my investments have fully recovered and others are on the way.
Answer: his priority is the financial system recovery using our money.
The rich guys rule and Obama knows that.

[DSL]

I think obama will give it all he has to offer he will pull thru this...

[transjen]

I find it very amusing to listen to the GOP as they cry about the hugh debit and when W was runing up the tab they remained silent so i know a way to ease the debit but i wonder how willing the GOP is to go along a big part of this debit was caused by W's Iraq war and his tax cuts for the rich so to ease the debit they keep crying about lets do away with all of W's tax cuts right now , If not then shut up and stop crying about the debit your party started
Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

For all the haters out there.

[TracyCoxx]

Well it's a good thing that Obama could take time out of his busy schedule of pushing a healthcare system that 80% of the public doesn't want, going on vacation, doing publicity stunts, keeping up with Kanye West and filling in for the Mayor of Chicago in trying to get the Olympics to come to Chicago and finally after 70 days to work General McCrystal into his schedule and talk about strategy in Afghanistan.

To put a war on the backburner for 70 days while our troops are in battle with no direction from the top is inexcusable.

If anyone needs confirmation of Obama's complete and utter ineptitude in foreign policy, the President of France (and for France's list of successes google 'french military victories' and click 'I'm Feeling Lucky') chastises Obama's position on Iran as "utterly immature". And goes on to say "We live in the real world, not the virtual world. And the real world expects us to take decisions.”

“President Obama dreams of a world without weapons … but right in front of us two countries are doing the exact opposite.

“Iran since 2005 has flouted five security council resolutions. North Korea has been defying council resolutions since 1993.

“I support the extended hand of the Americans, but what good has proposals for dialogue brought the international community? More uranium enrichment and declarations by the leaders of Iran to wipe a UN member state off the map,” he continued, referring to Israel.

The sharp-tongued French leader even implied that Mr Obama’s resolution 1887 had used up valuable diplomatic energy.

“If we have courage to impose sanctions together it will lend viability to our commitment to reduce our own weapons and to making a world without nuke weapons,” he said.

Mr Sarkozy has previously called the US president’s disarmament crusade “naive.”

This from a country who allowed the Germans to take over without firing a shot.

[randolph]

I'm feeling in a good mood today so here's some quotes from George Carlin.

"In America, anyone can become president. That's the problem."

"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."

"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity."

"Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too much money."

"Have you ever wondered why Republicans are so interested in encouraging people to volunteer in their communities? It's because volunteers work for no pay. Republicans have been trying to get people to work for no pay for a long time."

"Once you leave the womb, conservatives don't care about you until you reach military age. Then you're just what they're looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."

"The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post 'Thou shalt not steal,' 'Thou shalt not commit adultery,' and 'Thou shalt not lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment."

[The Conquistador]

Unfortunately randolph, George Carlin has no relevance in the international community, so his thoughts don't apply here.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Unfortunately randolph, George Carlin has no relevance in the international community, so his thoughts don't apply here.

???? He's irrelevant so his thoughts don't apply here. Well lets see, who's thoughts do apply here? How about Bin Laden, doesn't he have relevance in the international community?

[transjen]

Originally Posted by randolph

I'm feeling in a good mood today so here's some quotes from George Carlin.

"In America, anyone can become president. That’s the problem."

"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."

"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity."

"Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too much money."

"Have you ever wondered why Republicans are so interested in encouraging people to volunteer in their communities? It’s because volunteers work for no pay. Republicans have been trying to get people to work for no pay for a long time."

"Once you leave the womb, conservatives don't care about you until you reach military age. Then you’re just what they’re looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."

"The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post 'Thou shalt not steal,' 'Thou shalt not commit adultery,' and 'Thou shalt not lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment."

Jerseygirl Jen

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Well it's a good thing that Obama could take time out of his busy schedule of pushing a healthcare system that 80% of the public doesn't want, going on vacation, doing publicity stunts, keeping up with Kanye West and filling in for the Mayor of Chicago in trying to get the Olympics to come to Chicago and finally after 70 days to work General McCrystal into his schedule and talk about strategy in Afghanistan.

To put a war on the backburner for 70 days while our troops are in battle with no direction from the top is inexcusable.

If anyone needs confirmation of Obama's complete and utter ineptitude in foreign policy, the President of France (and for France's list of successes google 'french military victories' and click 'I'm Feeling Lucky') chastises Obama's position on Iran as "utterly immature". And goes on to say "We live in the real world, not the virtual world. And the real world expects us to take decisions.”

“President Obama dreams of a world without weapons … but right in front of us two countries are doing the exact opposite.

“Iran since 2005 has flouted five security council resolutions. North Korea has been defying council resolutions since 1993.

“I support the extended hand of the Americans, but what good has proposals for dialogue brought the international community? More uranium enrichment and declarations by the leaders of Iran to wipe a UN member state off the map,” he continued, referring to Israel.

The sharp-tongued French leader even implied that Mr Obama’s resolution 1887 had used up valuable diplomatic energy.

“If we have courage to impose sanctions together it will lend viability to our commitment to reduce our own weapons and to making a world without nuke weapons,” he said.

Mr Sarkozy has previously called the US president’s disarmament crusade “naive.”

This from a country who allowed the Germans to take over without firing a shot.

Thankyou Tracy or should i call you RushII or perhaps AnnII, Your view that we are doomed because the GOP is not in charge and we are doomed everytime the Dems are in charge never gets tired so by all means keep the GOP flag waving and remind us agian of the wonderful job W did in his eight years tell us of the millions of high paying jobs he created
TELL US THE ECOMIC GOLD MINE EVERYONE HAD tell us about the cheap oil prices tell us how he kept us out of a needless war tell us how he gave us a hugh budget surplus by giving tax cuts to the very rich tell us how he kept the terrorist from there attack on 9/11/01 and tell us how he kept IRAN and NORTH KOREA from going nuclear and tell us how great Wwas, You always bitch and complain about Obama and you always forget that W was the worst president ever, Obama will not be the greatest presdent but he sure as hell won't be the worst as it will be hard to take W out of that spot only JEB or Sarah could do that

Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Thankyou Tracy or should i call you RushII or perhaps AnnII, Your view that we are doomed because the GOP is not in charge and we are doomed everytime the Dems are in charge never gets tired so by all means keep the GOP flag waving and remind us agian of the wonderful job W did in his eight years tell us of the millions of high paying jobs he created.... blah blah blah

I point out how BO is the biggest screwup the whitehouse has ever seen, and you think that applies to all democrats. Why is that? BO isn't like all democrats. I think Clinton did a decent job with foreign affairs. Not a great job, since he didn't take al qaeda seriously enough, but he did a good job. BO's philosophy on foreign affairs is to ignore it.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I point out how BO is the biggest screwup the whitehouse has ever seen, and you think that applies to all democrats. Why is that? BO isn't like all democrats. I think Clinton did a decent job with foreign affairs. Not a great job, since he didn't take al qaeda seriously enough, but he did a good job. BO's philosophy on foreign affairs is to ignore it.

Like i said Obama sure as hell will not i repete will go be the greatest president ever and Clinton was a hell of a lot better but calling Obama the biggest screwup ever is going some considring we just had 8 years of W and only Sarah could be a bigger screw up then W oh by the way i rember seeing on CNN that a former Clinton aide who i believe was PaulB i won't even attempt to spell his last name but he's on CNN a lot told how then presdent Clinton tried to warn W about al qaede and Bin Laden is the US's biggest threat and W could care less and paid no attention, Oh fyi i didn't vote for Obama i voted a write in for Ron Paul


Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

McCain Palin quotes.

19. "She's a partner and a soul-mate." ―McCain on Palin, whom he had met only once before selecting her to be his running mate, "FOX News Sunday" interview, Aug. 31, 2008 (Source)

20. "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." ―McCain, to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there," as reported in the book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter (Source)

21. "That's exactly what we're going to do in a Palin and McCain administration." ―Palin, elevating herself to the top of the ticket, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sept. 18, 2008 (Source)

22. "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity." ―Palin, in her speech at the Republican Convention, quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once lamented that Franklin Roosevelt's would-be assassin hit the wrong man and also expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy would be gunned down (Source)

23. "Honestly, I have to analyze our relationships, situations and priorities, but I can assure you that I will establish closer relationships with our friends, and I will stand up to those who want to harm the United States. ... I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us and standing up to those who are not. And that's judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America and the entire region." ―McCain, after being asked if he would invite Spanish President Jose Rodriguez Louis Zapatero to the White House, casting an ally of the U.S. as a potential enemy while simultaneously confusing Spain for a Latin American country, interview with Radio Caracol Miami, Sept. 17, 2008 (Source)

24. "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?" ―Palin, interview with CNBC's "Kudlow & Co", July 2008 (Source)

25. "Across this country this is the agenda I have set before my fellow prisoners. And the same standards of clarity and candor must now be applied to my opponent." ―McCain, Bethlehem, Penn., Oct. 8, 2008 (Source)

Ah yes, if we had only elected the Palin/McCain ticket, everything would be fine. Such fine upstanding intelligent people. cough cough barf.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Like i said Obama sure as hell will not i repete will go be the greatest president ever and Clinton was a hell of a lot better but calling Obama the biggest screwup ever is going some considring we just had 8 years of W and only Sarah could be a bigger screw up then W

As always I will let you back up your claim about W before responding to it.

Originally Posted by transjen

oh by the way i rember seeing on CNN that a former Clinton aide who i believe was PaulB i won't even attempt to spell his last name but he's on CNN a lot told how then presdent Clinton tried to warn W about al qaede and Bin Laden is the US's biggest threat and W could care less and paid no attention,

Paul Bremer? Yeah, that's a hard one. Bush & Cheney tried to warn BO too. That did little good. BO is dismantling many of the policies that have given us intel we needed to disrupt upcoming attacks. Bush was delayed by idiots in Florida counting chads who were "trying to determine the intentions of the voters", so he was still putting his cabinet together for a few months. Then there was that incident with China. But he wasn't ignoring al Qaeda. By the beginning of September, he had plans to attack al Qaeda. BO hasn't done much better. His commanders are still demanding to know what BO's strategy is.

Originally Posted by transjen

Oh fyi i didn't vote for Obama i voted a write in for Ron Paul

LMAO Ron Paul is the exact opposite of who you support here, and I have used many of Ron Paul's arguments against BO's policies here, which of course, you vehemently argued against. Although, somehow, that doesn't surprise me about you.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by transjen

i voted a write in for Ron Paul


Jerseygirl Jen

I also went for Ron Paul.

[DSL]

Well here is a look at our national debt clock this is
how much the u.s. owes.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

[transjen]

I find it funny that from 01 thru 08 when W was spending quicker then the money could be printed most of the GOP didn't say word one but know it's there top concern and yet not one of them has said anything about ending the wars and ending W's tax cuts the biggest cause of this mess, So let's get real here people if you are truely worried about the sea of red ink end the wars and end every one of W's tax cuts and that will go a long way draining the bottomless sea of red ink

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

I find it funny that from 01 thru 08 when W was spending quicker then the money could be printed most of the GOP didn't say word one but know it's there top concern and yet not one of them has said anything about ending the wars and ending W's tax cuts the biggest cause of this mess, So let's get real here people if you are truely worried about the sea of red ink end the wars and end every one of W's tax cuts and that will go a long way draining the bottomless sea of red ink

Oh, btw... have I mentioned that in 2 months BO has increased the debt 2.5 times more than all of Bush's 8 years in office?

Not only that but almost 90% of the $350 billion of Bush's portion of the Wall Street bailout has already been paid back. Of course the democrats think this is money to spend. NO! It goes towards paying back the debt!

And what's more? The fucking house has approved a $290 billion increase in the debt limit.

[jimnaseum]

One Percent of the population owns fifty percent of the wealth. The National debt is not what we owe ourselves, it's what the rich owe us. THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED!!!! Merry Christmas, Everyone!! Oh Oh Oh, the Big Big O.........