If police question/detain a black person is it racism?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jdawg

I'm saying that a black man is more likely to get the cops called on him. The rich white comment is more for dramatic effect. Now if you want to deny that a black man isn't more likely to have this shit happen to him, then boy do I have a mansion to sell you.

If I see an albino that I don't recognize on my street with a crowbar breaking into a house, I'm calling the cops. I can't see how color has anything to do with what looks like a neighbor's house being broken in to.

The question though, is about Gates' racial accusations of Crowley. Was he justified in calling Crowley a racist for entering his house and asking for ID? Or is he a black man with a chip on his shoulder who tries to make everything about race?

[jdawg]

I gave you the answer to your question. Most of these issues are because of cops being their usual pig self and not really racial at all.



Maybe YOU are color blind, but alot of people in affluent neighborhoods are not. white or black or whatever. The guy walked with a cane and lives in the damn neighborhood. The stupid chick who called the cops should've known it was her neighbor for the simple fact that she's obviously a nosey fucker and should've seen him a few times at some point. I DON't think this was a blatant racist act by any means, but there is a racist component to that phone call.

[jdawg]

I'm trying to figure out why TSL thinks that we should just give the cops our id's when asked? Please tell me you're not the type of person who thinks that people who are in a position of authority deserve are utmost respect and cooperation no matter what?

[tslust]

Originally Posted by jdawg

I'm trying to figure out why TSL thinks that we should just give the cops our id's when asked? Please tell me you're not the type of person who thinks that people who are in a position of authority deserve are utmost respect and cooperation no matter what?

Respect, not always. Cooperation, yes. It'll usually work better for you, just ask Professor Gates.

If I'm just walking through the store and a cop wants to look at my ID, he's gonna have to tell me why. If I'm at my house, and he comes up saying that he's investigating a break-in; I might point out that I'm not the person he's looking for, but I'd still let him see my ID. Because "That cop don't know you from Adam!"

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jdawg

I'm trying to figure out why TSL thinks that we should just give the cops our id's when asked? Please tell me you're not the type of person who thinks that people who are in a position of authority deserve are utmost respect and cooperation no matter what?

For the sake of argument, say someone really did break into the house. The police goes in, and finds the burglers in the house. They claim to live there. He asks their ID. They say they don't have to show their ID. Does the cop say "curses... you got me there" and walk away?

[jdawg]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

For the sake of argument, say someone really did break into the house. The police goes in, and finds the burglers in the house. They claim to live there. He asks their ID. They say they don't have to show their ID. Does the cop say "curses... you got me there" and walk away?

A- the cop isn't even getting into my home.

B- the cop certainly isn't getting my id.


Just because a cop gets a call saying your house was broken into doesn't give them the right to run over your rights. You'd be surprised at what cops can do when you give them an inch.

[jdawg]

CrystalKing, those stats are true, but that's because Blacks are thrown in jail at a far higher rate than any other race for non-violent drug offenses. It's inflation of numbers based on stupid crimes like having some weed on you or whatever. So yes, you can say, blacks commit more crimes, but you need to look at what they're thrown away for to figure out that it's probably not as bad as the stats say.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jdawg

Just because a cop gets a call saying your house was broken into doesn't give them the right to run over your rights.

So if your house was broken into while you were away, and neighbors called in a break-in and cops were actually able to get there while the burglers were still in your house, you'd rather the cops NOT enter your house to stop these guys from stealing your Deluxe Tomahawk Dildo Mark V and other goodies? I don't think many people would agree with that, but if that's the way you want it...

Originally Posted by jdawg

You'd be surprised at what cops can do when you give them an inch.

You mean like arrest you in your own home? Yeah I know... I am well aware of how cops overstep their authority.