Terror in my country :(

[tux]

I do not adorse or like violence at all... Dont get me wrong on this. (please).

Anyway..
For me, pkk are not terrorists, they are fighting a fight, wich for them are a freedom-fight.. That is bad in it self, because people eventually die horribly..
For them it is fighting for the survival of their culture and so on... etc. etc..

For a normal turkish man, woman or child, they could easily be looked at, as a terror-organisation (christ it is a popular word these days..)..
Why?? Because people on the other side of the struggle, are likely to be considered terrorists..

I look at this on a different angle... My angle says that both sides of this loong conflict, are fighting for power.. Yes.. The core of this conflict, have allways been the question of who are the ones, that can or can not tell others to do or not to do...

Look at it this way... Will U consider braveheart to be a freedomfighter or a terrorist?? Well.. If it was today, that he lived, then he would for shure (pardon my bad english), be considered a terrorist..

All that said... PKK is only fighting on the same terms and wishes, that schotland and ireland were fighting years and years ago..
The only difference today, are the way that people are dying...

Please look for "Henry Rollins 'Ember of Rage' " on You tube...
He is sooooo right on war... The reason for war, are allways bad..

Keep in mind, that if U don't stop this war, then U will give the war to your children. And the only thing that U can say, when they ask U, are that u did not stop the war for them...


Now... Sorry if I offended U.. I just want people to stop fighting...

Yes my friend, People shouldn't be fight and war with eachother. But you say PKK is not a terrorist organization they want their freedom.
I want to ask you " how much do you know this organization ? aren't they free ? Is Turkey genocide Kurdish People ? "
NO!!

If you know Turkey, you will see. Kurdish people or Turkish People. if i have a rights for something. they have too. they have a paper which says you are a Turkish republic citizen, you can do everything you want as an economic or family way. I have Kurdish people in my family and they are very good and nice people.

But there is some secret powers that we don't know in this situation as an economic power and money.

Our Army can finish this problem easily,i think.We have a powerful army.But they don't or didn't want. Our Army take money from government for this problem, extra. When an Army officer goes to that area to fight they earn twice (x2 salary)so they didn't want to finish i think.

And there is a Petrol on that area but they don't let us.Some secret powers don't stop this. Some secret powers give support to them. some secret power train that people which you can see on their munitions and guns.

Innocent people are dying and cheating. PKK the Terrorist Organization is cheating young people and they let them to die on the mounts and let them live as an animal in the caves to fight and war. On the head of PKK, they live as a king and spend money. their stupid fighters are on the mounts and live like an animal. Thats foolish. I don't know why they don't see it.

If Turkey give that area to PKK the Terrorist Organization, that will be not good in the world arena as a power and honour.And that area is our we don't have to give. we have a good and ostentation history in the world as an Ottoman empire and Turkish Republic and every Turkish people is a patriot in themselves.

Why we war ? why people war ? why people don't live in peace ?

Make love !!! Don't WAR !!!

[tux]

I am quite well known in world history.
Though I am from scandinavia, my knowledge of history is quite broad.
I know stuff, like; If it wasn't for the arabian culture, then we in europe would still be happily unaware of greak history, and the idea of democracy.

I am not religeous, i hate all religeons, and i am so happy not to have any god or god's... That way, I can see stuff more clearly... But, it was not religion that i wanted to discuss...

Now..
The kurds.. What about them??
Now.. I know that PKK was a political party, that wanted to have a free kurdistan. Yeahh.. I know.. The kurds, wich are spread throughout 3 different countries, close to and over 3 boarders. Iraq, turkie, and Iran.
The kurds have their own culture, and are the largest group of humans, without any country.. If we look away from gypsie's worldswide.

The reason for this fight (freedomfighters seen from one side, and terrorists seen from the other side), are in it's purest form, the right for a country.
Nothing more nothing less.

Now...
There are allways two sides to one truth.. Right?..
Yes.. They kill.. So does the soldiers.

My point is..
Why not stop fighting.. Why not forgive??
Now we can't have that can we?? The human being are depended for hating in some more or less widespread idea or something..
It is true!! If we hate the others, then we have the right culture don't we??

Now...
I don't adorse PKK's use of violence, and i don't adorse the army's use of violence.. The only point that i wanted to make clear, is that someone is not allways terrorists, and if people would see the other side's views, then war would be a thing of history.

Still... We can't have that can we?? Humans want to kill and hate... Or will we??

[shemalelolatoronto]

what a right replay for this turkish, my mom is Kurdish from Turkey and I am so glad to be a Turkish Kurdish and fuck all over the world who I want to ( I meant intercourse ) Tslover needs to read more books or go to leave in some kurdish areas and see their pain and war between each other for food , fabric and a decent life

Originally Posted by tux

I do not adorse or like violence at all... Dont get me wrong on this. (please).

Anyway..
For me, pkk are not terrorists, they are fighting a fight, wich for them are a freedom-fight.. That is bad in it self, because people eventually die horribly..
For them it is fighting for the survival of their culture and so on... etc. etc..

For a normal turkish man, woman or child, they could easily be looked at, as a terror-organisation (christ it is a popular word these days..)..
Why?? Because people on the other side of the struggle, are likely to be considered terrorists..

I look at this on a different angle... My angle says that both sides of this loong conflict, are fighting for power.. Yes.. The core of this conflict, have allways been the question of who are the ones, that can or can not tell others to do or not to do...

Look at it this way... Will U consider braveheart to be a freedomfighter or a terrorist?? Well.. If it was today, that he lived, then he would for shure (pardon my bad english), be considered a terrorist..

All that said... PKK is only fighting on the same terms and wishes, that schotland and ireland were fighting years and years ago..
The only difference today, are the way that people are dying...

Please look for "Henry Rollins 'Ember of Rage' " on You tube...
He is sooooo right on war... The reason for war, are allways bad..

Keep in mind, that if U don't stop this war, then U will give the war to your children. And the only thing that U can say, when they ask U, are that u did not stop the war for them...


Now... Sorry if I offended U.. I just want people to stop fighting...