The facts on fertility

Originally Posted by racquel

...genetic woman...genetic girl...

OK, no offence intended, but I really hate the myriad of things those terms can imply. For starters, I say this as a male-identified person whose genetic tests show I have an XX karotype (albeit with possibly the highest natural testosterone levels before being diagnosable with certain "hormonal imbalances"). Some Trans women and Trans men prefer "cisgender" while others prefer to simply say "non-TS/non-Trans". I also know two Trans women whose karotype is XXY, but without Kleinfelter's Syndrome, making their "genetic" status technically "Intersexed" while their natal-assigned sex (based on appearances for one woman, and based on a minor reconstruction for the other) was obviously "male".

I know people are going to say whatever they like, regardless, but I just thought I'd share for those who'd like to learn some more.

[racquel]

Originally Posted by ObscureAlternative

OK, no offence intended, but I really hate the myriad of things those terms can imply.

What do you find ambiguous about the terms GM and GG?

GM = XY = natal male = cisgender male = non-trans male
GG = XX = natal female = cisgender female = non-trans female

GG is one of the least ambiguous terms you'll ever see when dealing with TS issues. Genetic girl. Girl with XX chromosomes. Simple. It's one of the few terms that people who know nothing about trans issues can understand easily.

Of course intersexed people are an exception and cannot be properly defined with any of those terms.

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Very good topic on fertility. I'm a man, but found this topic very interesting nonetheless.