Barack Obama

[smolderingtemptress]

If it's your opinion, fine. But if you've allowed yourself to be influenced by the opinions of, oh, the rest of the world about Bush (who, though many of us dislike, is not the SOLE reason for all of our problems) you should step back and reconsider how informed you really may be.

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by smolderingtemptress

If it's your opinion, fine. But if you've allowed yourself to be influenced by the opinions of, oh, the rest of the world about Bush (who, though many of us dislike, is not the SOLE reason for all of our problems) you should step back and reconsider how informed you really may be.

Shouldn't we all? Point taken and thanks for enlightening me. Now peace and stop! Ok?

[jimnaseum]

Lemme pull this thread out of the HISTORY file to say how thrilled I am at Obama's choices for cabinet, etc. so far. When McCain chose Palin and Obama chose Biden, I was re-assured except for Biden's age, I'm not sure he can slip right in after 8 years and make CHANGE a 16 year dynasty. The SHARP selections he has made so far ...even though I'm not savvy enough to know any details, I know enough to see he's surrounding himself with supersmart people, agreed by everyone, I get a real good feeling that stuff is actually going to get done here in the States. Good stuff.

[TracyCoxx]

I also see some interesting things happening. People like Hank who are constantly harassed by his friends in Indonesia because he is white, and therefore must be accused of being a fascist Bush lover will no doubt be pleased to see that their savior Obama has kept Bush's Secretary of Defense. Obama the pacifist also will take our troops back to Afghanistan, and has made threats against Pakistan, and after being given the cold shoulder by Iran has vowed to deliver a 'devistating U.S. nuclear response against Iran' if Iran attacks Israel. Oh, and he says he will negotiate with Iran and offered economic aid if they agreed to drop their nuclear program. In other words, he's not dumb enough to follow his campaign promise of sitting at the table with Iran without preconditions.

On the socialism front, Obama says he will not increase taxes on the rich at this time. Apparently he's not dumb enough to follow the economic strategies he's campaigned on.

He is dumb enough to assign Daschle as secretary of Health & Human Services though.

I'm gunna go out on a limb and I'm sure I'll get banned for it so fuck it, here goes:
Barak Hussein Obama is going to be a horrific president for the United States but he is exactly what the world outside of which needs. He will bring out changes to America that will destroy the individualist capitalist nature of the people who founded it. He has already chosen the socialist cabinet that Bill Clinton chose when he was in office, save for the Sec. of Defense. All his talk about ending the war in Iraq was a lie because he knows he cannot afford to "lose" the war in name only because it will be bad for his party. He will destroy the medical establishment by prohibiting those who have payed in to the system their whole lives the ability to access it (ie- in socialist countries you are rationed healthcare, the elderly will be the first to be cancelled out). Barak Obama will ignore overt threats from the Russian federation and the Chinese "republic" all the while making the military a shadow of its former self, while claiming support for it and screaming that he supports them and all their missions or what ever but he will make them weaker and tie their hands in the face of those terrorists and authoritarian governemnts that do not restrict their soldiers. Only in modern America are soldiers tried for "war crimes" committed in the commission of their duties. I could probably go on but this is almost assuredly going to be edited by someone already. The fact of the matter is that Obama was elected because he was not a republican. George Bush was not a far right winger, he said it himself that he should govern from the center. In fact all his bailouts are testimony to the fact he is more socialist than any president ever. Obama was born black. What a freakin accomplishment. When people bash Sarah Palin, the epitomy of womanhood, they say she's a governor, Obama is a senator, as if her executive experience was nothing and his senatorial experience, his 1 term senatorial experience, was something so unbelievably great... I had a friend who was supposed to be quite intelligent and open minded. Well, I deduced after the fact that he did not want to vote for a republican, no matter what. If a perfect candidate in everyone's point of view ran against Obama but s/he called him/herself a republican, that person would have lost. Now then, I'll go back to looking for big dick shemales cause I'm a damned pervert and that's what gets me off... Just remember that when the muslim extremists take over, those of us who like what we all know we do will be among the first to go because we are the abominations to them. God help us all... BTW, no more blog rage, I won't even be reading it...

[jimnaseum]

Jeez, talk about your sore losers, McCain himself said that Obama has picked some marvelous people for his cabinet on the Letterman show tonight! Get over it! There are more Mexicans than Goldwater Republicans in the USA now. Knock off this "American Dream" crap and taste the new American Reality.
If you want to be taken seriously don't mention Sarah Palin. You betcha!

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Jeez, talk about your sore losers, McCain himself said that Obama has picked some marvelous people for his cabinet on the Letterman show tonight!

No surprise there. McCain is unable to make a criticism of his former opponent in anything larger than a campaign rally. That cream-puff persona did nothing to get himself elected.

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Get over it! There are more Mexicans than Goldwater Republicans in the USA now. Knock off this "American Dream" crap and taste the new American Reality.
If you want to be taken seriously don't mention Sarah Palin. You betcha!

What's wrong with the American Dream? I'd take that over the Mexican Dream any day.

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Jeez, talk about your sore losers, McCain himself said that Obama has picked some marvelous people for his cabinet on the Letterman show tonight! Get over it! There are more Mexicans than Goldwater Republicans in the USA now. Knock off this "American Dream" crap and taste the new American Reality.
If you want to be taken seriously don't mention Sarah Palin. You betcha!

Hehehe... well said!

And hopefully this marks the death of ultra conservatism in a way similar to what happened to communism a decade or two ago.

Time for a much more blended mindset - a wonderful shift of paradigm.

And in the end, isn't that truly what the socalled "American Dream" is all about? I mean, before it was hijacked by the military fascists who sort of indicate that to be a TRUE American with hand on heart, tears in the eyes and gun (and sexuality) in the closet you MUST be an ultra right winger believing in the "small-town-set" of values?

Hopefully all that will fade away and die out with the current believers.

Peace!

H

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

Jeez, talk about your sore losers, McCain himself said that Obama has picked some marvelous people for his cabinet on the Letterman show tonight! Get over it! There are more Mexicans than Goldwater Republicans in the USA now. Knock off this "American Dream" crap and taste the new American Reality. If you want to be taken seriously don't mention Sarah Palin. You betcha!

First of all, who cares what McCain has said or thinks? Certainly not anyone on the Right. For crying out loud, those of us who ARE Republicans were actually PISSED at McCain for NOT going after Obama hard enough during the election. As tiresome as it was to hear McCain sounding like a truly old man -- constantly saying "My Friends" every time he spoke -- what REALLY rubbed people on the Right the wrong way was that McCain spent as much time kissing Obama's ass as the media did. Frankly, McCain LOST my vote when one day -- about 2 or 3 weeks out from the election -- he was giving a speech in Ohio and someone got up and said something negative about Obama, which the crowd cheered on. But then in a truly stupefying political moment, McCain turned to the person (and the crowd) and actually said "Senator Obama is a good man. You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency." And that's the fucking tone he had WHILE THE RACE WAS STILL ON. Frankly, the ONLY reason I voted for McCain was BECAUSE of Sarah Palin.

Then again, I felt bad for McCain. He was truly in a no-win situation. All along he realized he was up against a historic tide where obviously so many African-Americans were going to come out in force in order to elect Obama, all so they could put the first Black president in office. And the joke of that? Howard Stern did an amazing bit on the radio where he sent someone up to Harlem to ask people on the street WHY they were voting for Obama. At which point, the person would read off a list of various political positions to the people, to which they would get excited and say: "That's right! That's exactly what I believe, too! Barack's political positions are totally in tune with what I believe!"...

...The joke being, of course, that literally ALL of the statements that were read to the people were McCAIN's political positions on the issues.

As for Palin, I wouldn't be so dismissive of her if I were you. She's certainly going to be a future force to be reckoned with. You can betcha that.

First of all, SHE is what energized the Right wing base and even made it a race. SHE is what brought the Republicans and Conservatives together -- NOT McCain. Which brings us full circle to why no one on the right cares that McCain supports Obama's cabinet choices on Letterman -- Hell, McCain even being back on Letterman, once again to praise Obama, just shows how spineless he's now become in the end, how appeasing McCain has become about just wanting to be liked in the aftermath of things. If anything, Palin showed the most spine and character by now telling Oprah to fuck off and to pound any interview requests up her ass, after the way Oprah snubbed her during the actual race.

And second, keep these thoughts in mind, too. A recent poll showed that Palin remains the overwhelming choice of Republicans to run the next time around, only this time at the TOP of the ticket. But even more interesting was another poll recently showed that a whopping and truly astounding 78% of the American voters -- we're talking nearly 8 out of 10 voters, regardless of which side of the political aisle they come from -- felt Sarah Palin had been treated UNFAIRLY by the media and she did NOT get fair coverage at all during the election. An astounding 8 out of 10 people, now post-election, feel the media did not do it's job and they showed a clear bias. Which means the next time around, people are NOT going to let the media get away with the smear tactics they did this time...nor will they let the media whitewash the Obama side of things.

In fact, here's another interesting note: the glow is clearly off Obama already. A poll released this weekend showed Obama's approval rating was now down to 65%. On the surface, that might sound high and good -- but keep in mind that with a country essentially split at this point between those who lean Right and those who lean Left, that means Obama now only has a 15 point margin before he hits the tipping point where literally HALF of the country would be AGAINST him. A lot of Obama's fall from grace has to do with the economy (polls show people don't think he's taking an active enough role in things), plus the Illinois Senate seat-selling scandal is also contributing to things.

Plus, it's become obvious that many reporters are now vocally...and FINALLY...asking tough and honest questions about "what" Obama knew with regards to the dirty politics that went on in Chicago (as a Congressman and then a Senator). And as one commentator put it today on the news, this scandal - as more and more dirt and names come out -- is now threatening the tarnish the inauguration. Plus, when Obama gets sworn in in January...and the economy is then still utter shit in February, with more and more people still being laid off...the general public won't be blaming Bush anymore. They'll be looking right at the Oval Office and the Democratically controlled Congress and saying "Okay, NOW we start blaming YOU."