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Yes Sesame, those are quite good in my estimation. Art is whatever you feel it to be...It doesn't have to measure up to any critical standards. I should post some pictures, but what is the best way to go about it around here? Setting up a third party photobucket account?
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I wondered about that too.
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Sesame, great stuff. Please post more of your sketches I do computer generated art, or rather derivative works, of shemales.

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testing one two. Here's a couple of my favorites one photoshop and an older oil painting. I'm using imageshack, so if that's against the rules, just delete. I know new viewers don't get many downloads so I don't expect them to waste their limited selections on this.



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I wish I could draw. I can barely draw a stick shemale.

sesame and jimnaseum, those are great samples of your talents. Don't let them go to waste.
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I think 90% of art is more accurately classified as Shite, there is a problem with art, and that is fucktards. There's nothing worse than a tard with no tallent of his own, who flocks like a sheep after whatever seems to offer him an air or coolness by association. And thus the buzzwords edgy and provocative were born, and then wrung dry of all meaning. Words like composition, aesthetic, palette, and are replaced by retarded blithering on shapes and movement and ohh look at the pretty colours, while some retarded monkey blabbers about the artist message or some such shit.

Basicly art has been debased by consumer culture into a state where a fucktard can put up a painting, and noone will look at it and say 'fuck, that is the biggest piece of shit I've ever seen, get it out this gallery and put something worthwhile there', because they are afraid they might have the opposite opinion to someone cool.

That's not to say that there is no good art around, but when someone puts a broken piano in a gallery and says this is art, no, that is a cool looking object, but that is all, I saw a broken piano in the street the other day, If I had painted the broken piano sat in the street, or photographed it, or built a sculpture of it sat in the street, that would be art, to take the broken piano itself and put it in a gallery is not art, any more than randomly digging a bone from the ground and walking off with it is archeology, or glancing at some stars is astronomy.


Anyway, enough criticism, I'm more of a scientist than an artist, but as anyone knows scientists are better artist than artists are anyway.
I did do a lot of stencil stuff, but I could never get people to keep watch for me when I want out spraying, and I never liked doing it on my own, I was worried a copper would sneak up on me right in the middle of spraying something.


I once formed a group called UBX, our purpose was to go into restricted areas, and explore places we were not allowed, we still haven't penetrated most or our targets, and the best exploration we managed, we got in by chance when we only had a phone camera, we also had a mark we left behind which we always forgot to take with us too, the mutant wasp.


Here's a pic of a huge fork n spoon mountain we found in an abandoned kitchen, and the stencil I made for us to spray in places we went.
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Where there is SSAnna (sounds like a ship), there is controversy and hot debate. Anger erupts like hot lava from her radical brain. Cool off, do you always like to take the Provocative stance?

The mutant wasp stencil looks arty. But the heap of spoons and forks looks just like any ugly dull heap of metallic clutter. I prefer to accredit all proponents of art movements... even Pablo Picasso and his stupid crap called Cubism Or, drug-induced tactless Art called Dadaism, which is more debasing than that produced by any infant! The art world is controlled and promoted by more dirty politics than Drug Mafia or Politics itself! It makes me feel nauseated to think of all the hypocrites prancing the Art World, acting as Gatekeepers, bent on monopolizing Art and Aesthetics! That said, I feel so much more liberated! Thank you SS-Anna.

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I want to say "Dont be such a pissed-off pessimist!", but I have to agree with you inspite of my Ahimsa. I was downright disgusted when I saw a plain Commode (Yes, a plumbing fixture for defecation and urination) displayed as a piece of Modern Art! Or shapeless blotches of black paint splayed over a canvas, having much resemblance to a motor mechanic's hand mop! Think of Vincent van Gogh, Ingres or the Pre-Raphaelites and compare that with the sorry state of modern art now! Truely, Art has degraded.
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To be honest, with the spoon pile, I did exactly what I complained about, It's just a load of spoons, I should have got the whole mountain, but it was in the dark and we were sneaking about, and at the time I was wondering how many spoons I could fit in my pockets (quite a lot it turned out), we did find a few random things when we had our cameras, like this abandoned laudromat, which randomly had a stolen roadsign in it, but all the best pic we took were on our cameras, as the coolest places we ever got into were random spur of the moment things spot an open window and climb out onto the roof, try the door with the warning signs and it opens etc (see the door of treasures below, sadly locked again when we returned with the camera). I have a great picture of my friend stealing the flag from Edgbaston Golf course too, but I won't post that here, lol.






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Go into an overly pretentious art gallery, make sure you are dressed for the part, (a small group all standing closer to each other than is normal and very occasionally making hushed comments to each other is even better) find a fire extinguisher, or a random object and stand staring at it, studying it like a piece of art, stroking your chin, getting really close to look, you get points for 10 points (per person) someone comes over and looks at it too, 20 points, you make a comment to them about the artist's tumoil, or thier depth of expression or the commentry on society etc and they nod n accept it etc. 30 points if you ask if they have seen such and such work (really dumb name), and then tell them it is simply (bizzare object eg, shopping basket containing a stuffed badger) and how it expresses (random emotion + buzzword) 40 points if you tell them the artist stole the idea from you and then desecrate the 'art work' eg get a pen and sqiggle on the fire extinguisher in front of them, then run off. 100 points if they call security, 30 points if you convince someone a modern art picture is upside down, 45 points if you do it for a sculpture, 40 points extra if it is member of staff, 60 points if you add your own 'artwork' and someone thinks its a real exhibit, 5 points for each person you get try and explain it to you. 'Explain' works to people, you get 3 points for each buzzword you use, 5 for introducing politics, 10 if you make a sentence consisting entirely of buzzwords, 60 if you convince them the artist is a paedophile or a fascist based on the work.

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I think 90% of art is more accurately classified as Shite, there is a problem with art, and that is fucktards. There's nothing worse than a tard with no tallent of his own, who flocks like a sheep after whatever seems to offer him an air or coolness by association. And thus the buzzwords edgy and provocative were born, and then wrung dry of all meaning. Words like composition, aesthetic, palette, and are replaced by retarded blithering on shapes and movement and ohh look at the pretty colours, while some retarded monkey blabbers about the artist message or some such shit.

Basicly art has been debased by consumer culture into a state where a fucktard can put up a painting, and noone will look at it and say 'fuck, that is the biggest piece of shit I've ever seen, get it out this gallery and put something worthwhile there', because they are afraid they might have the opposite opinion to someone cool.
What you say Anna is so very true. A painter makes two vertical stripes of blue on each outer edge of a panel. The centre of the panel is painted with a red vertical stripe. All stripes are of equal width. The painter calls it "Voice of Fire." The national art gallery goes crazy over it, pays millions of dollars for it, and trumpets the great purchase it has made. The average citizen see no artistic value or merit in it whatsoever and letters to the editors, of newspapers and magazines, point out that a person with a paint roller and masking tape can create the same thing in less than half a day. Of course the "arts community" immediately puts their collective nose in the air, sniffs as though having to breath in the odour of shit, and lets everyone, who is not an 'artist' know that only a great painter can produce such a masterpiece. What a load of crap. But that just shows that anyone can produce a work of art by giving anything (a painting, a sculpture, etc.) an artsy name. The know nothings who want to sound like they know everything will go along with it out of fear of not being thought of as artsy.
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I think 90% of art is more accurately classified as Shite, there is a problem with art, and that is fucktards. There's nothing worse than a tard with no tallent of his own, who flocks like a sheep after whatever seems to offer him an air or coolness by association. And thus the buzzwords edgy and provocative were born, and then wrung dry of all meaning. Words like composition, aesthetic, palette, and are replaced by retarded blithering on shapes and movement and ohh look at the pretty colours, while some retarded monkey blabbers about the artist message or some such shit.

Basicly art has been debased by consumer culture into a state where a fucktard can put up a painting, and noone will look at it and say 'fuck, that is the biggest piece of shit I've ever seen, get it out this gallery and put something worthwhile there', because they are afraid they might have the opposite opinion to someone cool.
This is getting off the topic here, but I just thought of something else that is somewhat in relation to Anna's rant. My subject was brought to mind yesterday when I read a review about some different wine in yesterday's newspaper. It seems that wine critics (oenophiles?) and beer critics have developed a taste (pun intended) for using buzzwords and not knowing what they are writing about. The rest of the fools follow along because they too want to sound like they know what they are talking about. Specifically one comment yesterday compared the taste of wine to green leaves. It makes me wonder what the critic has been drinking/smoking/injecting. Does this person drink green leaves? Has he ever tasted a green leaf? What kind of green leaf - tree, fern, vegetable? Why would this person taste green leaves? It seems too that whenever a critic tastes red wine it always tastes like blackberries, raspberries, strawberries, cherries, etc. Grape wine has always tasted like grape wine to me. I have never tasted any other fruit or plant in grape wine. Then there is the critic that reviewed beer. He compared the taste to barnyards and manure piles (and he was praising the taste of the beer being reviewed). It makes me wonder if this critic eats shit. He certainly dishes it out.
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My subject was brought to mind yesterday when I read a review about some different wine in yesterday's newspaper. It seems that wine critics (oenophiles?) and beer critics have developed a taste (pun intended) for using buzzwords and not knowing what they are writing about. The rest of the fools follow along because they too want to sound like they know what they are talking about. Specifically one comment yesterday compared the taste of wine to green leaves. It makes me wonder what the critic has been drinking/smoking/injecting. Does this person drink green leaves? Has he ever tasted a green leaf? What kind of green leaf - tree, fern, vegetable? Why would this person taste green leaves? It seems too that whenever a critic tastes red wine it always tastes like blackberries, raspberries, strawberries, cherries, etc. Grape wine has always tasted like grape wine to me. I have never tasted any other fruit or plant in grape wine. Then there is the critic that reviewed beer. He compared the taste to barnyards and manure piles (and he was praising the taste of the beer being reviewed). It makes me won der if this critic eats shit. He certainly dishes it out.
I think criticism of ANY sort reeks of this...Beer, wine, food critics seek to elevate their supposedly higher tastes above the masses through the use of creative vocabulary. I have drank a LOT of beer, and a decent amount of wine, and I know just what you're talking about. The world of criticism is about ass-patting and affirmation. If a CRITIC says it, it must be good, so the general person will adopt the vocabulary of a critic (however inept) to describe things. I agree with critics on many points, but the flowery nature of their vocabulary is so ambiguous as to be useless. I much prefer more quantified means of describing a product such as IBU (International Bitterness Units) than the subjective description of one person. Beer and wine critique is as full of pretension as any other artform. Much of the allusion is just that, a taste that alludes to some preconception of something else...This begs the question, will EVERYONE share the same preconception? Will the taste take EVERYONE to a barnyard, or an orchard, or freshly cut lawn? Doubtful, and this is the difficulty of subjective criticism...It is just that, subjective...

As to the larger topic at hand, I really DO hope to post some stuff as soon as I get around to setting up a third party account. My wife entered a painting gig this weekend...Go figure, her work didn't sell. It was a timed shindig, not something she excels at, she hates time limits...At any rate, she did a very impressionistic work, whereas most of the entrants did a more realism-slanted piece. It just goes to show how people interpret things differently...
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