Who gets high?

[sesame]

Originally Posted by GRH

The remainder of this philosophical discussion would probably be better suited to your meditation thread, Sesame.

Done, go see it.

Tell me about your experience.

[GRH]

Alright Sesame, I much appreciate your response! I promise that I will respond and also share some of my own bizarre, non-drug-induced dreams soon. That said, in the interest of advancing our drug discussion here, and your own interest in my personal experiences, I think I will cover Salvinorin A next.

Salvinorin A is the active constituent of Salvia divinorum, a member of the sage/mint family. The plant is native to the Oaxaca region of Mexico and has been used in divination rituals and what not for many hundreds of years. It was recently discovered (within the past several years) that Salvinorin A is actually a dissociative pharmacologically speaking, but its mechanism for action is quite distinct from the other drugs discussed thus far...

Salvia (as an herb) is generally ingested in one of two forms. It can be smoked, either in the pure form, or in a concentrated extract (which intensifies concentrations of Salvinorin A). It can also be chewed as a quid and absorbed sublinguillaly. The smoked route is a faster and more intense means of onset; the oral route is slower in onset and requires more initial starting material, but can lead to an equally profound and longer lasting experience.

The majority (but far from all) of my experience with this substance comes from using various preparations of extract that are smoked, though I have dappled with the oral mode of delivery. When smoking, the drug requires a unique technique...You need to apply as much heat as possible for as long as possible. And you need to hold the smoke in as long as possible. Vaporized Salvinorin A is not highly soluble, nor is it readily vaporized...This is why intense heat is required to make it smokeable. It's not the most pleasant of smokes... Perhaps it is best to start with my very first trial run...

Once upon a time, I had a potent 30x extract and was at the beach. It was nighttime (roughly 11 PM) and there wasn't a car in sight. I put some Salvia atop a pipe and smoked it as described above. I began to feel this incredible head rush and got this sudden compulsion to get out of the car and explore. I was very stupid then. At any rate, I left my vehicle and went shoreside. Along the beach, anywhere I walked I could see glowing footprints. I could trace my name or a picture in the sand and see a glowing trail of where I painted. It turns out, this night was blessed with one of a few, rare diatomic tides that come to the area. But I knew nothing of that under the influence, in fact, I didn't know if the "glowing" was me hallucinating or not. It took me awhile (and a sober perspective) to eventually piece everything together in a logical fashion...It just so happens that some diatoms will "glow" when agitated...And I had the fortune of coming upon them while incredibly high...

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[marlowe]

Originally Posted by GRH

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??????????? I hope this is not the result of a bad drug induced experience!

[GRH]

LMAO, ! That's atypical for me. Despite being tempted to edit my post, I will leave it, because that represents the BAD things drugs can do to you. Let that be an education to anyone tempted to wander into the drug world. The long post of jibberish is the result of nodding off in a blackout. Sometimes it can be brought on by alcohol, sometimes from too much morphine. All in all, not a "bad" drug experience, but not a good one either. What makes this ironic is that I usually drift off and still maintain some coherence. I'll sometimes have some weird posts to find the next morning, but THIS is the worst ever. My memory stops right where my legibility stopped. I remembered talking about Salvia and the beach, and that is where my memory leaves me. I must have passed out at the computer and awoken later...Because I did make it to bed last night and managed to unplug the computer and shut it down.

[GRH]

I will finish my description of Salvia at a later point this weekend, it probably won't be today though because I have a date with destiny which will keep me rather preoccupied for the next 24 hours or so.

[sesame]

Congrats, you are positively screwed up!
You start writing coherently on a topic and suddenly your fuse goes off! Then it cant be that enjoyable after all... whatdoyousay? No memory after diatoms, eh? Memory fails after relating the beach episode?

But then, who submitted the post to this forum? Who shutdown the computer and took you to bed? ... ...

Allow me to explain.
I have often noticed that there is another part of my mind that is also sentient and capable of reacting within a split second. This second part... lets call it, manas, is there simultaneously along with the usual conscious mind. And I am not talking about the subconscious or unconscious mind. This manas is with us even in the waking state. We seem to be in control of the conscious mind. But this manas part can think for itself and is always ready to help us. But the conscious mind supresses it and pretends that it had never existed. The conscious mind holds our memories, our fears, conditioned reflexes, inhibitions and lethargy. Whereas the manas is lightning fast, it doesn't vacillate on a decision, has no fear or inhibition. All athletes, martial artists, people who develop a skill to an automatic state, make use of manas. The action just unfolds itself independent of our reasoning process; this action actually explodes from manas. We surprise ourselves, we become stunned at the display of our own hidden skill! What was that? That was manas, and its the untapped part of you!

As Kungfu legend Bruce Lee once said, "It hits all by itself!"

[sesame]

Psssst! GRH! Hey! Coooeeee!
No ones answering! May be she is in an euphoric state and got her ego completely dissolved! GRH, geeky, pharmacopeia... come ye down to our mortal realm from thine High Abode.