I am so sick of being identified with politics.

[Smoothie]

OP.

In YOUR words, more than once, you’re a bitch.

You’re a bitch. Deal.



So since the OP had admitted she (unlikely a real she) is a bitch, most forums with any sense have the foresight to stop the instigation of political or religious discussions. Hasn’t this forum? It’s a golden rule even for most newbies. Don’t expect a forum to go better than a Thanksgiving dinner.

Please feel free to double check her identity, photoshop is easy.

Religion & politics don’t go well on any forum, but especially when this “girl’s” views directly conflict with the actual views of the authentic trans community. I smell a troll, a few years mean nothing if you’re just here to fap based on a fake account.




At the bare minimum, lock this thread. No good will come of it.

[JamieTS]

Jesus Smoothie. So you hate me? You have to trash me?

Is there a certain set of rules and laws that transwomen have to follow in order to be tans?

So in other words you have to belong to a certain political class to be authentically trans? That makes no sense in a free world. I have to agree with you or I am a fake?

[JamieTS]

BTW Smoothie, who the hell are you to decide anything about me.

You just proved my whole point. Either I am on the left and authentically trans or I am on the right and a freakin' troll and not really trans?

The left bitches about the right being hateful, but you are no different.

I am not left or right and I vote democrat and republican about evenly. Yet I am attacked and invalidated for how I vote. I am neither left or right, I am a Libertarian and I am a registered independent.

You claim one side is so hateful and bigoted, well both sides are just as bad and you proved that. I either have to agree with everything you do or you will do everything you can to invalidate me. What is the difference between the left and right? What have I said that was so hateful that you have to spew hate at me like you did?

You do not live my life and you don't control my life so hate away. I don't care. But I am tired of being hated and invalidated because you and others may not agree with me.

So screw you. Go live your life the way you see fit and I will do the same. But there are a lot that are too afraid and go along because hateful folks like you will trigger them. Invalidate me all you want. I now who I am and I really don't need your approval. But the difference between you and me is that I don't hate you or will invalidate you and support your right to vote however you see fit.

[Smoothie]

I support your right to vote any way you choose (you won). I don’t care if you voted for Trump. I am pissed that after his appointment of DeVos rolling back restroom rights for students and Trump’s himself raping our minority group with his uneducated military decision (besides all the other anti female & lgbt appointments).

I don’t give a damn that you voted for trump, I do give a damn that you still support him.

Surely I was too harsh on you out of emotion, but yes, if you think the above admin choices are not a spit in the eye then there’s no way you’re really feeling the pain the rest of us are.


I’m sorry for even responding, clearly I’m a bitch too. As for the TS admirers here, I don’t hold them to the same standards as someone that has walked in the same shoes.

Libertarian here too, but nobody fucks over my community without deeply upsetting me. So I’m upset. We’ll both pull on our big girl pants and move on.

[Smoothie]

OP, I’ve proven your point but I knew that going into this, people do act a certain way for a reason. I took the bait knowing that the hook was there.


“The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few... or the one.”
:spock:

[Smoothie]

It doesn’t mean much, but I apologize to JamieTS for coning down so hard. I should have ignored the thread completely and minded my own.

[JamieTS]

Originally Posted by Smoothie

It doesn’t mean much, but I apologize to JamieTS for coning down so hard. I should have ignored the thread completely and minded my own.

Look smoothie. You have your points of view and I have mine. Why should a president divide us? The president does not have power of the individual states. I am a supporter of the Second Amendment and to be completely honest with you, the restroom deal has never been a problem for me and others until it came up. But I have a CCW and carry a .380 in my purse and that has come up before when someone wanted to hurt me on the street. I still use the ladies' room because I dress the part.

To be completely honest, I have worked my ass off to pass and I am no great beauty and I acknowledged it when I was really young. That was way before the internet and why before gender therapists or anything else other than reading books in the library on my own Yes I have cried about it and asked why me like everyone else does but I came to own it. I had to change schools and then couldn't take PE because I was different. I grew small boobs so may indeed I may be intersexed even. Probably more likely than not. Oh I don't have a vagina but nothing is right for a man either. My "junk" is the same size as when I was five.

But do you really know what I don't ever want to see again? An LGBT person thrown off of a high rise or hanged from a crane. Another think I don't ever want to see again is a gay or in the case of Pulse, and LGBT night club ever shot up again. However you present use the restroom of how you are presenting. No harm and no foul. In both capacities I have walked into the wrong restroom before and was never told shit about it. It happens more than what you think. As for locker rooms and showers, nah. I will drive home after working out and take a nice long bath in my own bathroom and tub.

What is more important to me is not my right to use the restroom because I find it way more alarming to think that others believe we are sexual deviants and you know and I know that that is the farthest from the truth you can get about trans people.

I will be completely honest with you. If a man dressed like a man comes into the ladies' room while I am in there claiming they have a right then I will feel uncomfortable. To be completely honest with you, there are cis women out there that have a hard time passing as a woman.

This is why I get so sick of politics. Politicians are playing with us for votes and that is all. They could care less. Same sex marriage is no deemed constitutional by the Supreme Court. It is a constitutional right. No threat of that being taken away. States can still issue marriage licenses or refuse to issue them because it is not within the confines of the Constitution. But they still have to recognize the marriage from another state. That would fall under the Tenth Amendment.

Society will change no matter what party is in power. It is changing now. But when you try to force it to change then it has a totally opposite effect.

Believe it or not I live in a red state and I can go to "Poduck" La and use the ladies' room presenting as a woman and never catch flack from it. I won't even say I put the effort in to walk and talk like a woman other than the walking and movement part. To boobs I got covered, the voice I got covered, the shaved legs I got covered. But the boobs I could buy on any trans sight. The leg shaving is a pain in the ass everyday, the hair sux growing it out, I pierced my own ears so everything is legit. The walking was a little work but not that much. But now after the whole restroom debate, it seems there are more "gatekeepers" of the porcelain thrown as there ever has been in my life. So did the politics on the restroom debate make things better or worst?