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[sesame]

3x means THREE TIMES ... that was for all those people who have twisted minds.

[sesame]

1. "post op pre op or Generic"
   What do they mean exactly? I wont mind if you go into details .:D
   
   
   
2. Also what do the Tgs do with the voice problem. You know, a heavy husky voice is good for a guy but for a girl it should be shrill and melodious.. tuneful, may be ?

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by sesame

1. "post op pre op or Generic"
   What do they mean exactly? I wont mind if you go into details .:D
   
   
   
2. Also what do the Tgs do with the voice problem. You know, a heavy husky voice is good for a guy but for a girl it should be shrill and melodious.. tuneful, may be ?

1) (a) Post-op girls are had surgery to convert the penis into a vagina. Mind you, there is no "cutting off" or removing, the penis is literally used to form the vagina (b) Pre-op is a girl who has not had the operation and still has a penis that may or may not function depending of hormones. (c) "generic".. I think you meant "Genetic" women - women who were assigned "female" as birth who do not have any gender Identity issues. (d) you forgot non-op gals.. girls who are happy with a transsexual body or realize they will probably never have enough money for genital surgey. The penis may or may nor be fully functional.

2) Pesonally, I passes for a woman mush easier on the phone.. just always sounded like my mom. But yes, lots of gals have husky or "camp" gay men's voices. Voice training with a vocal coach can really help.

[belfagar]

Beautiful And Smart. If you ask me it can't get better.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by belfagar

Beautiful And Smart. If you ask me it can't get better.

Thanks

I disagree with the first part, but appreciate the compliments:D

[belfagar]

The picture speaks for itself. And anyone who can discuss the zygote is pretty smart.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by belfagar

The picture speaks for itself. And anyone who can discuss the zygote is pretty smart.

We could discuss physics - I'll show you that I can be a pretty big bubble-head then

[sesame]

there is no "cutting off" or removing, the penis is literally used to form the vagina

You mean, using the Glans of the penis to create the Clitoris? ...Because, thats where the sex nerves are most thoroughly distributed. Otherwise, there would be no "Real" feeling left in the genital organ.
I dont know where the skin will go in a vagina ( probably external labia), or where does the shaft fit in. May be the urinal tract will perform the same function in the new vagina?

[sesame]

A fermion: a particle with half-integer spin
Right, Belfagar?
On 2nd thoughts, I should add Baryons.

[sesame]

I feel like Harry Potter in Horace Slughorn's class!
Answering to spin of sub-atomic-particles, in here?
Well "Blame it on Rio", I mean belfagar.

[Joebad]

Hmm, a discussion of particle physics, psychology, physiology, biology and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Has someone engaged the improbobility drive?


Seriously though Bionca,
It's hard to find a soul mate. I'm 50 and I still haven't. Don't let a few jerks discourage you. There are a great number of jerks out there so odds are that you are going to meet quite a few.
Adding your uniqeness to the equation makes finding the right one even harder.
You should know that some guys will do things when they are horny that they might regret having done after they've climaxed. That's why they can act so strange. It's much like a drug addiction.
A guy might believe in his heart that it's wrong to have sex with you, yet he is still very sexually attracted to you. He forgets his heartfelt beliefs and follows his penis. Afterwards he feels guilty.
He may blame you for turning him into a fag, a queer, gay, etc. He also may lash out at you verbally or even physically, so be very careful even though you've been upfront about who you are from the start.
When you are going out with a new guy find out all that you can about him and let someone else (a friend or a relative) know. Also, it's a good idea to non-chalantly let him know that someone knows that you are with him.
Wishing you peace, joy and love,
Joebad

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by sesame

You mean, using the Glans of the penis to create the Clitoris? ...Because, thats where the sex nerves are most thoroughly distributed. Otherwise, there would be no "Real" feeling left in the genital organ.
I dont know where the skin will go in a vagina ( probably external labia), or where does the shaft fit in. May be the urinal tract will perform the same function in the new vagina?

They use as much of the penis as they can. I don't know a ton about the actual procedeure, I figure I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it. I do know that the procedeure of removing the testicles and sack (to reduce prodution of testosterone) is no longer performed by most doctors because it limits what they have to work with when creating the vagina.

[Joebad]

Originally Posted by Bionca

They use as much of the penis as they can. I don't know a ton about the actual procedeure, I figure I'll cross that bridge when and if I come to it.

That is another thing that complicates your situation. If you meet someone who desires you as you are now, will he still desire you if you cross that bridge?

If he really loves you, I guess he will, but that would be a bad time to find out that he is too shallow. Just when you would need love and support the most.

I think that could be a good question to poll the group about. I'm not quite sure how to word it, but the gist would be: If you were find the perfect pre-op transgender woman in real life, would you still desire her post-op?

[sesame]

Practical Application of a Tip from Bionca:

Get me a little tipsy on anything from a grape and soon enough I'm silly and giggly and eventually in the corner with my lips on some random guy

Sesame offers Bionca her favourite bouquet of flowers.
What flowers do you like, Sweetness?
Then he offers her wine which she cannot resist.
Finally he whispers in her ears, sheafs of poetry on her exquisite beauty.
How smart and wise she is.... She is, actually.
And as she drinks more and more, Bionca the wise undergoes a startling transformation...
The fire of lust has been kindled!
Goddess to Lioness

[Bionca]

Well.. I do have a special place for the Iris. Not sure why, but I love the flower... Wysteria also (but more growing than in a bouquet).

As to the rest.. my good man, I'd be afraid I'd ruin you for future girls and that wouldn't be fair to them at all.

[sesame]

my good man, I'd be afraid I'd ruin you for future girls

Pardon me, senorita,
how can a sweet honeypot like yourself ruin me?

[marlowe]

Originally Posted by Bionca

Well.. I do have a special place for the Iris. Not sure why, but I love the flower...

The Iris was a favourite of the painter Georgia O'Keefe. Her many paintings of flowers are abstractions that also act as sexual metaphors.

The first pic below is called 'Light Iris' and the second 'Black Iris'.

Here's some quotes from Georgia O'Keefe:

"When you take a flower in your hand and really look at it, it's your world for the moment. I want to give that world to someone else. Most people in the city rush around so, they have no time to look at a flower. I want them to see it whether they want to or not."

"Making your unknown known is the important thing."

"You get whatever accomplishment you are willing to declare."