What sort of relationship do you want with a ladyboy? - Your Votes!!!

Having not had a sexual or romantic relationship yet, I'm gonna say casual sex and/or friendship for the time being.

[Michael1]

Marriage. I love Shemales and i want to marry one. End Of Story.

[gflex]

casual sex. i like just the feeling of great sex with a ts lady. any long term romantic relationships.

[vwf pervert]

Im married already so that is no option... I love my wife but she knows my feelings about tgirls and for some or other reason doesnt feel threatened by it, so casual sex and friendship would be great.... any SA Tgirls???

[Bionca]

This is a little disheartening, particularly on a site devoted to men who "admire" women like me. Firstly, I am a "real woman" - gender and biological sex are not the same. Secondly, the reason so often cited for not having an actual relationship with a Tgal has been in essence fear of what others might say. Relegating me to a curiosity or fetish, no consideration of my (our) feelings or needs.

Although I pass all day every day (even without makeup), I am 100% honest about my surgical status when the issue arises. To expect me to lie about a huge chunk of my life isn't exactly fair - imagine going through life never mentioning anything that happened in your first 20 years.

My transition, and those of my friends have shown courage, tenacity, character, strength and compassion that I rarely see in other communities of people. I'd like to be loved and admired for those qualities rather than whats going on in my crotch.

[vwf pervert]

Originally Posted by Bionca

This is a little disheartening, particularly on a site devoted to men who "admire" women like me. Firstly, I am a "real woman" - gender and biological sex are not the same. Secondly, the reason so often cited for not having an actual relationship with a Tgal has been in essence fear of what others might say. Relegating me to a curiosity or fetish, no consideration of my (our) feelings or needs.

Although I pass all day every day (even without makeup), I am 100% honest about my surgical status when the issue arises. To expect me to lie about a huge chunk of my life isn't exactly fair - imagine going through life never mentioning anything that happened in your first 20 years.

My transition, and those of my friends have shown courage, tenacity, character, strength and compassion that I rarely see in other communities of people. I'd like to be loved and admired for those qualities rather than whats going on in my crotch.

I do see your point and am sorry if I have offended you in any way... I do realise by what you are saying that it is really hard for you, without us guys looking at you as a sex object.... As you have read though I am married so a relationship with a women such as youself would simply not work.... It is still however a fantasy of mine( feelings or no feelings involved)

Again as I said I would not only enjoy casual sex but friendship as well, to get to know more about the beauty of a Tgirl....

[Bionca]

vwf -

I almost specifically left out the married guys. Having a sexual fantasy is normal and healthy, marriage may just limit one's ability to live the fantasy. So married guys who can't get into a romantic "date" relationship I understand.

I'm troubled by guys who wouldn't date us for fear of what ther friends/family may say. Also guys who made statements to the effect of "I like shemales and real women" - both of these statements tell me that some of you don't see me as a woman, and you are afraid that someone will call you out for being gay. Being a "dirty secret" can be hot, but being a "dirty secret" all day every day - come on.

I don't feel ashamed in who I am, I sure as hell don't want a guy who is ashamed of me.

**comments not directed at any particula poster**

[raojai70]

a very open relationship or serial girlfriends works better then long-term i think.

[Hot Rod]

casual sex would be great, but i've never been one for meaningless casual sex. I have to be friends with the person first, then move into some type of relationship, then sex. Have to have some type of connection with the person.

[Pedro DB]

Been married once already - don't want to go through another break-up like that again. Have the family already too. So I voted "Steady Girlfriend".

That's what I have had for 8 months here in Samui. Sadly, that came to an end back in May.

Living in such a liberal environment with such an abundance of new ladies arriving almost daily, there is a temptation just to try and f**k as many of them as possible. Post break-up, I did just that for a month or so but it just 'did my head in'.

So after a month or so of almost enforced celibacy, I am now looking forward to finding a new long term partner and the intimacy and feelings that can really only result from such a relationship.

[DollyCd]

I also would love to have a stady relationship with a ladyboy

[troyhorny39j]

fuck yea shemales are hot

[tslover586]

i love my wife more that anything. and we do have an open relationship. so anything i do is a hit it and quit kinda deal. its not that i wouldnt be friends in private or public with a tgirl, because i would. as a matter of fact i have several gay friends and im not ashamed of them. but as far as this post is concerned i am married, and my eternal love can only go to my wife.

now if for some reason me and my wife didnt work out. in all honesty i would just be a slut. i would give up on love completly. im not using the old id be ashamed, or society wouldnt accept it bull crap cop out. im just being honest!

[rockabilly]

I would like a ltr that could lead to marriage.

[The_Void]

Same as with any girl. As in - I dunno, it depends on the girl. I could marry a t-girl. I could marry a g-girl. I could marry a guy. It's really not much of a factor for me.

Full-time girlfriend leading to marriage.

[PI_Monger]

I voted full time girlfriend but I would marry a ladyboy for sure if the right one came along. In fact, I hope to someday when I'm living in the Philippines full time. If all goes well and I can retire early as planned, it should be within two years. <fingers crossed>

[Lycanthropunk]

I voted marriage. Tgirls are WAY more than just a sexual thing for me- i can honestly see me settle down and spend my life with a beautiful Tgirl.

[Steve.Dark]

I put full time girlfriend, seems like it would be a much better time than just sex, you know having fun with eachother and etc

[no1000]

I'm open to a fulltime girlfriend and marriage if love is involved.
I don't know why this is a poll. I mean wouldn't anyone? love is love no matter the person.

[pretty_ladyboy]

its really unhappy to see the result that majority of guys here just want to have a casual sex with us

[smc]

Originally Posted by pretty_ladyboy

its really unhappy to see the result that majority of guys here just want to have a casual sex with us

Decades and decades of research into human sexuality suggest that "guys" in the majority "just want to have casual sex" with most of their partners, irrespective of gender. Monogamy, according to the research, seems to run counter to the male instinct, although "serial monogamy" seems to work as a substitute.

I take no position on this research. I am simply pointing it out.

[mysteryorchid]

Possibly include "be slave to a shemale option"

[no1000]

Originally Posted by mysteryorchid

Possibly include "be slave to a shemale option"

hahaha the OP forgot one

[aussiepride]

i chose marriage because i am effectively already married to a ts.
in the near future i willm get a ring and a civil ceremony (as close to same sex marriage in aus as u can get).

[Dhobi]

I would love a long term relationship that led to marriage - but I am an old guy and so see that as an impossible dream now.

[testbed]

If I met the right girl then I would want to get married to her.

Originally Posted by Dhobi

I would love a long term relationship that led to marriage - but I am an old guy and so see that as an impossible dream now.

You have seen the entire world, Dhobi, sailorman, you have seen exotic beauties and extravagant wonders, weird animals, unexplored islands, tormented seas, every type of humans and cultures. Who knows, my friend ? Everything is possible...

[parr]

It would depend on the individual. I was never too partial to "one night stands".

[curiousguy]

something casual with no strings,id want to pre arrange a time and have her call me when she wants some action.

[aussiepride]

Originally Posted by curiousguy

something casual with no strings,id want to pre arrange a time and have her call me when she wants some action.

i had that for 2 mnths, every tuesday at 3.30 lol. she was best sex i ever had with a ts too. happy memories.

[lancslad]

I voted Full Time Girlfriend

Though I am married. If I wasn't then I would have no problems being in a relationship and have no problems with people knowing I am seeing a ladyboy.

If you are happy then it shouldn't matter who you are with, be they girl/boy/ladyboy.

For me not it's not likey to happen unless I have complete breakdown of my relationship.

Would I like to have casual sex with a ladyboy? Of course, they are extremely attractive and beautiful

[sissyffm]

i want my lady to marry me

[curiousguy221]

hopefully a romantic relationship with the possibility of marriage. sex may be fine and good for some people but i think i could only really do it with someone who i trust and care for so i should at least be friends with whoever i end up doing it with i think.

[Hieralias]

I voted Casual sex, but I'm open to a discrete relationship

[LarryP]

I'm currently in a relationship with a TGirl (pre-op). We have been seeing each other for over 6months. Things are going well--pretty much a typical developing relationship as we continue to get to know one another. She's very passable and lives her life completely as a woman. we've discussed moving in together, but not marriage. WE'll see how this plays out. We love each other, what can I say. Life is good.

[besorted]

I'm head over (high) heels in love with a wonderful Philippines LB, recently back from visiting her, I'm married, scared to ask for a divorce but know i can't live without my beautiful pinay. Help! Has anyone successfully got there asian girl friend to the UK, if so please share how you managed it!

[angela671]

I'm one of those "jaded" girls. When you constantly get stared or leered at all day, molested by sexist co-workers, hit on by immature "boys" at your fav afterwork bar or groped on your way to the bathroom, have dates fall apart on you, pestered on fb for "add-mes", have to deal with penis pics as a FIRST MSG by new guys (btw wth is up with that? if i had a dick that was shrinkly, short, warty, hairy, bent, had acne, covered in yellow or green goo, looking black and diseased, had tattoos of chewie on it or just plain freaky, i'd seriously consider another way of getting a girls attention. Even being built like a porn star only gets a quick comment before being deleted and unfriended!). Be original, actually care about the girl HERSELF and be a gentleman. TRUST ME, you'll stand out from the other 99% of the guys. Bianca is right, continually wading through the filth doesnt make it easy to find a serious relationship. Having a guy wade though all that muck, deal comfortably with the tg issues and steal her heart is rare to find (I would so treat THAT MAN like a king!). And I do feel bad for the "real guys". It's overwhelmingly stacked against you. Don't give up though. If you are genuine, your girl is waiting somewhere out there for you!!

Yeah, I would like something serious. Most girls would as well i think.

[smc]

Originally Posted by angela671

I'm one of those "jaded" girls. When you constantly get stared or leered at all day, molested by sexist co-workers, hit on by immature "boys" at your fav afterwork bar or groped on your way to the bathroom, have dates fall apart on you, pestered on fb for "add-mes", have to deal with penis pics as a FIRST MSG by new guys (btw wth is up with that? if i had a dick that was shrinkly, short, warty, hairy, bent, had acne, covered in yellow or green goo, looking black and diseased, had tattoos of chewie on it or just plain freaky, i'd seriously consider another way of getting a girls attention. Even being built like a porn star only gets a quick comment before being deleted and unfriended!). Be original, actually care about the girl HERSELF and be a gentleman. TRUST ME, you'll stand out from the other 99% of the guys. Bianca is right, continually wading through the filth doesnt make it easy to find a serious relationship. Having a guy wade though all that muck, deal comfortably with the tg issues and steal her heart is rare to find (I would so treat THAT MAN like a king!). And I do feel bad for the "real guys". It's overwhelmingly stacked against you. Don't give up though. If you are genuine, your girl is waiting somewhere out there for you!!

Yeah, I would like something serious. Most girls would as well i think.

Wow, what truth: the way it's stacked against the real guys, because of the behavior of all the assholes who think only with their dicks.

It's enough to make one wish he wasn't a man!

[mabedzaqueen]

Originally Posted by angela671

And I do feel bad for the "real guys". I would like something serious. Most girls would as well i think.

Hi Angela and welcome to the forum! After having carefully read your interesting post, i can only conclude that if someone gave you the opportunity to jump in a spaceship and fly the hell out of this gross, filthy, obnoxious world, you'd do it in a heartbeat, no??

Normally, i try to avoid giving gratuitous advice 'cause it makes me feel like an old fart, but when i see people getting disappointed when they notice that the world they live in is not up to their standards, it just screams to me they haven't (yet) understood that ?reality? and ?perfection? will never walk hand-in-hand Look Angela, as i read your post i could almost smell your frustration and (believe it or not) i see your point: over the years i have met quite a few perfectionists and i didn't get a happy-person "vibe" from any of 'em... Lots of people have tried to make this world a better place and how many have succeeded?

Afterthought: you know what? I'm ready to bet even those you label as "real guys" do have some sort of black cloud following them (from a distance so you may not see it on the first few dates).

______
Dennis.

[angela671]

lolol I didn't realize I was giving the impression i wanted perfect. Everyone has baggage and I can deal with that. No one is perfect. And frankly I don't want perfect. I'd settle for just being happy.

I think you missed the point though.
My "reality" as you put it, goes something like this: Guy1 hey baby, youve got sweet lips, i'd love to put.... Guy2 Your gorgeous, you wanna get out of here and f***? Guy3 Hey, i knew you from before as a guy, since you changed you must get f***ed alot. Guy4 Thats a cute ass, I'd love to f*** it! Guy5 (co-worker) I've had fantasies bout a girl like you..you wanna f*** after work? but dont tell my wife. Guy6 Your a tranny right? You wanna fwb? Guy7 Gawd i would so do your ass. C'mon i'll make it worth your while.(money) Guy8 blahblahf**kblah
I could go on and on and on. After awhile, you overload and simply get jaded. You blank, but you smile and move on.And that's just what i call the "little boys"!
And then there are the "straight" guys you date, who want a tgirlfriend but are afraid of being seen in public with one. You don't meet their friends, coworkers or family. He takes you to late night movies, picnics at secluded beaches, long drives to nowhere or grocery shopping but you have to stay in the car. You never go anywhere together that might be "too public". You end up feeling like a 2nd class girlfriend.

I'm grounded and as down to earth as you can possibly get. I don't expect perfect. And I certainly don't expect a knight in shining armor to scoop me up and save me. But it would be nice to be seen as more than a sex object. To know that i mean more than that to someone. To be with one, who doesn't care if others see if we hold hands. And isn't afraid of what others might think. Maybe i'm asking for too much..maybe that's perfection? If it is, then i guess, beam me up.

now if oyu dont mind, i have a box of tissues calling me again...

[smc]

Originally Posted by angela671

... But it would be nice to be seen as more than a sex object. To know that i mean more than that to someone. To be with one, who doesn't care if others see if we hold hands. And isn't afraid of what others might think. Maybe i'm asking for too much..maybe that's perfection? If it is, then i guess, beam me up. ...

Don't despair completely. There really are guys out there who are decent. I look at a lot of porn in large part to "get out of my system" the shit you describe above. And I don't see escorts. The transwomen with whom I've had relationships are a graduate student I met in a non-bar, non-sex situation and who I spent a long time having mostly "academic"-related discussions with before even kissing, a woman I met on the local subway and had a discussion with when the train broke down (later going out for coffee three times before even holding hands), and a friend who I invited to Boston as a getaway from some family problems, made not a single "move" on, and who -- after a few days -- fell asleep in my arms after a long discussion about life's toils and troubles and then woke up to kiss me and make love (something she said she'd never done before).

I mention this only to show that there are decent guys. I've met others. True, most men are dogs and they think primarily with their dicks, but some manage to overcome that ... even if only fleetingly.

[angela671]

oh and top of all that..she still has to deal with her own tg issues as well.
Spending way more time shopping than a gg would. (Because nothing fits!) Spending more money than a gg would..seamstress, hormones, counselor, doctor, voice training, ffs etc. Trying to find a job. Trying to find a job with insurance that'll cover you. Keeping your job. Being hassled by cops because your sex on id doesn't match how you present. Coming out issues. Losing friends. Losing family. and on and on and on. Self doubt. Questioning whether dealing with all that, is really worth it.

So yeah, your tgirl already has alot on her mind BEFORE you even approach her. Tending to jackasses is NOT the highlight of her day.

I'm actually starting to get a little steamed here. You can keep your "gratuitous advice". I have enough on my plate, thank you!

[a9127]

I guess I might be one of the “good guys.” I don’t know. You’ll have to ask around and read some of my older posts and decide for yourself. I left because of my dissatisfaction with the number of insulting, ignorant (often ungendering), and just plain stupid posts that were tolerated (newcomers responding to 5 year old threads without checking for example). And the number of people who fall for “merelypink” never ceases to amaze me. Until my account was closed I had over 1000 posts as “aw9725.” Tried to come back and found I couldn’t “re activate” my account so here I am under a different name.

My desire when I joined TLB way back in 2009 was originally to learn more and also meet a transwoman for a long term relationship and marriage. I am active in the LGBT community and have many gay and lesbian friends. Over the years I have developed friendships with both M2F and F2M transsexuals but have never been in a relationship. I consider myself “straight” but as you know human sexuality is so much more complicated than that. I related a story here about a possible “missed opportunity” from when I was in college. I’m sure you can find it if you are interested.

Somewhere along the way I met a very beautiful and wonderful ciswoman who shares my interest in LGBT issues and we were married in March 2011. I have remained active here on and off primarily due to friends like ila, smc, Fran, Bionca, Dauls, shadows (where did he go anyway?), the conquistador, and many others.

To anyone who is new here and looking for friends, here’s hoping you will stay.

[smc]

Originally Posted by angela671

... I'm actually starting to get a little steamed here. You can keep your "gratuitous advice". I have enough on my plate, thank you!

It would appear that angela671 and I were posting at the same time, so I wanted to make sure that the "gratuitous advice" to which she is responding is actually above my post, which is immediately above hers.

[Jon Boehner]

to a real girly girl would be the best.

[NoNameXIV]

casual sex all the way, i am in my early 20ies to young for marriage and i have never meet a girl i would want to have a relationship with.
I love the fact i can do what i want when i want, never have to apologize or explain myself, got complete FREEDOM and i don't think ill be giving that up just yet

[joe1987]

Since I decided to man up and let everyone in my family know that I'm attracted to transgendered women and not so much to genetic women, I'd like to eventually get married one day and maybe start a family with her.

I realised I deserve to be happy and I don't want to be one of those guys that ends up getting married to a genetic woman, has kids and then decides to sneak off to wherever and have an affair with a TG and possibly ruin their marriage because they were living a lie. I wouldn't be able to live like that.

It would be unfair to me and to the woman I truly want to be with. So it's out in the open now and I'm happy to say that I can now think about having a future with the woman of my dreams, wherever she may be!

WAHOO!

[toon198122]

Serious tgirlfriend for me I'm in a relationship right now and wouldn't have it any other way at the moment but if I ws still single I'd go to marriage

[Globe009]

I have been in a very serious relationship with a ladyboy from Toronto. We met online and we have been together ever since. I lost my "t-girl" virginity to her and she lost her's own virginity to me. I could not ask for a better friend, lover, soul mate...I was married for over 20 years to a genetic woman which did not end well...I have had a ladyboy fetish for so long so when I left my ex I decided to give dating a transexual a try! I have NO regrets!