Pre-Op or Post Op?

[caminds]

No offence to anybody, but i don't see the value proposition in a post-op. Best just get a genetic/born woman for a fuck, no?

I think the essence of a pre-op is the cock and feminine features, let's not beat around the bush here.

Originally Posted by caminds

No offence to anybody, but i don't see the value proposition in a post-op. Best just get a genetic/born woman for a fuck, no?

I think the essence of a pre-op is the cock and feminine features, let's not beat around the bush here.

Of course, a woman with a little extra is adorable. But why would you consider that a post-op t-woman is less attractive than a gg? I think this is implicitly affirmed in your post. Why would you think something like that? If a woman is lovely with a penis, why wouldn?t she still be lovely without it? why wouldn?t she be every bit as lovely with a vagina? It?s the general attitude and charm of a person that makes what we call the beauty. Your post suggests a fixation on the cock in a woman, which would reveal much more of a fantasy than an opinion on reality ?at least I hope it would. If this is really your opinion, I find you should make the difference in language.
T-women are women. The beauty they possess as women and as persons remains the same whether they have a penis or a vagina. If, or when, you think otherwise, you show you situate yourself in the realm of fantasy and imaginative desire. Which is fine; there?s nothing wrong with that. But then again you have to make such a difference. There?s many transsexual women on this forum who go through the harsh daily reality of having to cope with a crushing amount of misunderstanding and criticism, and who?s everyday life is filled with intimate and social conflicts. You might want to take this into account.

[smc]

Originally Posted by caminds

No offence to anybody, but i don't see the value proposition in a post-op. Best just get a genetic/born woman for a fuck, no?

I think the essence of a pre-op is the cock and feminine features, let's not beat around the bush here.

I find this to be one of the most offensive posts on this site in a very long time. It is one thing to express the opinion that one prefers the vagina of a GG over a post-op transwoman for purely sexual reasons. It is another thing altogether to refer to there being a "value proposition" with respect to post-op transwomen.

The term "value proposition" is a business term, rarely used in any other context, that refers to a promise of value delivered, and a belief that such value will be experienced, by a customer or client obtaining a product or service. Using the term "value proposition" in the context of sex with a post-op transwoman is, in my opinion, one of the most abject instances of objectification I have seen on this site. And I've seen a lot.

Shameful!

If ever there was proof of a point I've made over and over -- that words and language matter -- this is it!

[Alana TG]

"Men in shining armor"....thank you Dan & SMC.

Originally Posted by danthepoetman

Of course, a woman with a little extra is adorable. But why would you consider that a post-op t-woman is less attractive than a gg? I think this is implicitly affirmed in your post. Why would you think something like that? If a woman is lovely with a penis, why wouldn?t she still be lovely without it? why wouldn?t she be every bit as lovely with a vagina? It?s the general attitude and charm of a person that makes what we call the beauty. Your post suggests a fixation on the cock in a woman, which would reveal much more of a fantasy than an opinion on reality ?at least I hope it would. If this is really your opinion, I find you should make the difference in language.
T-women are women. The beauty they possess as women and as persons remains the same whether they have a penis or a vagina. If, or when, you think otherwise, you show you situate yourself in the realm of fantasy and imaginative desire. Which is fine; there?s nothing wrong with that. But then again you have to make such a difference. There?s many transsexual women on this forum who go through the harsh daily reality of having to cope with a crushing amount of misunderstanding and criticism, and who?s everyday life is filled with intimate and social conflicts. You might want to take this into account.

Originally Posted by smc

I find this to be one of the most offensive posts on this site in a very long time. It is one thing to express the opinion that one prefers the vagina of a GG over a post-op transwoman for purely sexual reasons. It is another thing altogether to refer to there being a "value proposition" with respect to post-op transwomen.

The term "value proposition" is a business term, rarely used in any other context, that refers to a promise of value delivered, and a belief that such value will be experienced, by a customer or client obtaining a product or service. Using the term "value proposition" in the context of sex with a post-op transwoman is, in my opinion, one of the most abject instances of objectification I have seen on this site. And I've seen a lot.

Shameful!

If ever there was proof of a point I've made over and over -- that words and language matter -- this is it![/COLOR]