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People, especially Americans, tend to be rather a-historical. It's a function of the fact that Americans as a general rule tend to have little interaction with people from other countries IN those countries. (The abysmal percentage of Americans holding a passport, prior to it becoming a requirement to get into Canada, was an international embarrassment that spoke volumes about this country.)

But we can pretend it won't be a problem.
Actually it's not a requirement for an American to hold a passport to get into Canada. An American however will require a passport to get back into America from Canada (or any other country).
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As far as I’m concerned, I feel that at such a juncture, there’s no point for me to add anything… You don’t agree, Tracy, there’s no way for me to convince you. But I guess I feel a bit sad, for what little it’s worth…
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As far as I?m concerned, I feel that at such a juncture, there?s no point for me to add anything? You don?t agree, Tracy, there?s no way for me to convince you. But I guess I feel a bit sad, for what little it?s worth?
Well we're just having a discussion. There's no requirement that we both end up agreeing with each other. I feel content, for whatever that's worth.
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Well we're just having a discussion. There's no requirement that we both end up agreeing with each other. I feel content, for whatever that's worth.
Of course Tracy. Fine. And there?s no reason to show contempt neither?
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Of course Tracy. Fine. And there?s no reason to show contempt neither?
Actually, the subject is Grammar Nazi - the other connotation. More like this...
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Nazi's were indeed most serious zealots. In terms of politics,, to be a Nazi was,, as the party name makes clear,,, a 'social DEMOCRAT'. WOW,,, sounds all Obamaman like to me,,,, Hitler was great at persuading, convincing, most all Germans that HIS plan was D PLAN. Please throw only rotten tomatoes at Joe,, but to maybe 30-40 million Americans,, Obamaman is exactly the same. No,, i don't mean exterminate as many Ctaholics and jews as possible,, I DO mean both men share the trait of 'knowing' what be best for all us rest. Once he's re elected, as I'm on record since April 11, to have said,,,, we aim't seen nothin' yet. All you need to see, to know, that's true,, is the 15-20 sec sound bite of Obamaman making that, all clear to Putin's lackey.
If the Nazi's were 1 thing,, they were elitists,,, our Prez is cut from the same 'whole cloth',,,
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Nazi's were indeed most serious zealots. In terms of politics,, to be a Nazi was,, as the party name makes clear,,, a 'social DEMOCRAT'. WOW,,, sounds all Obamaman like to me,,,, Hitler was great at persuading, convincing, most all Germans that HIS plan was D PLAN.
Oh boy... and there goes the thread.

Let me be the first: Here's another similarity... Both Obama and Nazis put their pants on one leg at a time. Both Obama and the Nazis eat bread. Yes there are similarities, but there are certainly not enough similarities to call Obama a Nazi. And I'm drawing a line in the sand here because the connotation you're using is Nazi from WWII. That is what waters down the word Nazi, not terms like Grammar Nazi because everyone knows that a Grammar Nazi is not the same Nazi that will commit genocide.
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Oh boy... and there goes the thread.

Let me be the first: Here's another similarity... Both Obama and Nazis put their pants on one leg at a time. Both Obama and the Nazis eat bread. Yes there are similarities, but there are certainly not enough similarities to call Obama a Nazi. And I'm drawing a line in the sand here because the connotation you're using is Nazi from WWII. That is what waters down the word Nazi, not terms like Grammar Nazi because everyone knows that a Grammar Nazi is not the same Nazi that will commit genocide.
Yet, Tracy, that’s just what I’m afraid of. By diluting the term continually, I think we’re bound to have such unbelievable excesses as this utter nonsense. I, like you, find what was just said absurd, but also ugly, offensive, ridiculous, grotesque, ludicrous and very, very scary. By not acknowledging to it’s fullest extent on an everyday and constant basis a reality such as showed by the pictures I posted, will necessarily result in a form of amnesia which doesn’t lie on the event themselves, but on their emotional charge and their historical and political significance, threatening in turn a political situation we never should take for granted, even today. Democracy was paid over and over by a terrible price. What you see as being just an expression has a value content that goes way beyond.

So please, Tracy, understand that I don’t want to be hostile to you or just to create some kind of bizarre, vain, bickering game: I really meant what I was saying. This will happen again and again with some potentially dangerous consequences if we don’t shake up and acknowledge completely what happened in recent history. There’s no doubt in my mind that you personnaly can make the difference, but obviously not everybody can, and this is the problem.

I’m almost kind of glad this just happened. I find it an excellent example of what I personally fear in such cases.

As to that gentleman, I won’t even try to talk to him. This is way past what I can address in a calm manner.

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Actually it's not a requirement for an American to hold a passport to get into Canada. An American however will require a passport to get back into America from Canada (or any other country).
Thank you for correcting my typing error. I know the rule, and what I wrote imprecise.
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