What sort of relationship do you want with a ladyboy? - Your Votes!!!

[noodle]

Like some of the other guys I am married. But I voted full time girl friend because Ideally my wife and I would both love a tgirl. I?ve finally let my wife into my fantasy world (why not take all of me, as the song says). I was surprised to find out my wife gets just as turned on as me by watching my shemale porn with me.

[king D]

id love to be in a relationship with a hot ts girl

[sosed]

This is very interesting question. One think is sure. I like girls and I'm not interested in males. Talking about girls, i would like to say, that I like both genetic girls and Tgirls, so the answer is actually for both, when we are talking about long term relationship or marriage. It is not, what she have between her legs, but about our personalities, how we are compatible that we could live together and what we feel to each other. She will be my girl, I will live with her, not others.

[no1000]

Originally Posted by sosed

This is very interesting question. One think is sure. I like girls and I'm not interested in males. Talking about girls, i would like to say, that I like both genetic girls and Tgirls, so the answer is actually for both, when we are talking about long term relationship or marriage. It is not, what she have between her legs, but about our personalities, how we are compatible that we could live together and what we feel to each other. She will be my girl, I will live with her, not others.

+1 I like your way of thinking.

[JodieTs]

Well my boyfriend wants to marry me
My girlfriend also wants to marry me {civil partnership}
I just want to play Call of Duty: Black Ops callofduty! >>>This video is brill.


Hummm.....I think I've got trouble brewing!

[shadows]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

Well my boyfriend wants to marry me
My girlfriend also wants to marry me {civil partnership}
I just want to play Call of Duty: Black Ops callofduty! >>>This video is brill.


Hummm.....I think I've got trouble brewing!

I heard that this fellow made a Youtube video where he walked through the entire first level of Black Ops on the hardest difficulty without taking a hit, or even firing a shot! The AI basically completed the level for him! While the game looks fantastic I prefer games where there is more interactivity.

Sorry for the OT, Jodie. I just figured I'd try to take your mind off the potential upcoming trouble that is a' brewing.

[Smoothie]

Sex is for fun, marriage is sex for life.
I vote for marriage.

Originally Posted by Bionca

This is a little disheartening, particularly on a site devoted to men who "admire" women like me. Firstly, I am a "real woman" - gender and biological sex are not the same. Secondly, the reason so often cited for not having an actual relationship with a Tgal has been in essence fear of what others might say. Relegating me to a curiosity or fetish, no consideration of my (our) feelings or needs.

Although I pass all day every day (even without makeup), I am 100% honest about my surgical status when the issue arises. To expect me to lie about a huge chunk of my life isn't exactly fair - imagine going through life never mentioning anything that happened in your first 20 years.

My transition, and those of my friends have shown courage, tenacity, character, strength and compassion that I rarely see in other communities of people. I'd like to be loved and admired for those qualities rather than whats going on in my crotch.

Couldn't of said it better myself Bionca.

Originally Posted by Bionca

I can't answer for most trans women, but from my observation guys have an uphill battle when it comes to trans women.

It's a combination of some messed up self-image issues with TGs (I think lots of trans women overlook really good guys because they aren't HAWT or whatever). Almost like having a stud validates them as attractive women. On the other hand, getting stood up 10 times in a row buy guys who couldn't wait to actually get a chance with a "girl like you" doesn't make one receptive to #11.

Online dating sites devoted to trans women will absolutely make for some pretty jaded gals. Been there - even I got some messages in my first month. I narrowed the suitors down and met with a few. The results of those meetings has been an almost complete shift in how I handle men. Frankly, I don't much trust them (when I used to give gals hell for not giving guys chances). Once again, it an issue of being dogged out by 100 guys doesn't predispose you well to #101.

My advice is to try to engage trans women as people with interests and hobbies. Find out a gals likes and dislikes from her site profile and open up with that. "I hear you like <thing>, so do I. Have you ever heard of <related thing>?" will get you farther with most gals than "yer cute" (in my case, I was pretty over empty compliments and single sentence contact from guys quickly). Tell her WHY you think the two of you would be a good match. Let her know something about you.

It isn't hard exactly. You just have to assume that she's been contacted by some pretty shady characters using any and every angle to get her. You need to assume that if she decided to end the contact, those same guys used what they knew would be most insulting to get a last "dig" at her. dating while trans is a minefield, and you don't get through it without being burned.

I feel for the genuine guys who seriously want to date trans women. The cruddy part is, those were the guys I THOUGHT I was dating - they all said similar stuff. It becomes very hard to sort through the REAL guys who really want to date a trans woman, and the guys who know that they need to pretend to be REAL men who want to date trans women to get any play at all.

Yes I totally agree with this as well. I get hit on by guys on these sites all the time. And usually don't even pay attention to the messages that are just saying how sexy I am.

But as for the poll. I voted on marriage. Because I would marry a girl like myself, she would be my ideal partner. But I am pan-sexual (basically bi), so I would also be open to marrying cis-gendered men or women.

[Relic119]

I want something serious maybe even marriage

[Hourglass]

Steady, committed relationship would be my choice. I've never been one for flings; No offense to those who enjoy that lifestyle, it's just not for me. I'm a bit of a (hopeless) romantic, so having one person to be with would be ideal.

As for marriage...I don't know. I'm a little afraid of marriage. Not the commitment part, but because almost all my friends have been married - and divorced - at least once and I've seen firsthand how it's changed them. They're...not happy. They used to be. Not anymore.

[StellaDixxie]

the majority that chose casual sex strike me as cowards.

[Guly_French]

Bascally, full-time girlfriend. I chose marriage though, as I want to show that no matter what her past is, the one I will truly and deeply love deserves that I dedicate my life to her, and to us. But also because it is a way for me to point out that it is awfully wrong that marrying a girl is forbidden or allowed based on what hangs (or hangs not) between her legs...

I can understand what Bionca wrote. I'd like to add it's hard for men who just want to have a nice chat to begin with but are not given the chance because they are not HAWT. But I guess that on this as on anything else, things are never a given, you have to go get it.

The other thing is that of course talking about common interests is the key. But let's be honnest, someday, if things get as far as being more than friends, or you picture to go there, you'll have to talk about sex. And trust me, I have seen girls being frigthened to talk about it so much they ran away calling me pervert, though they wanted to try a relationship with me too. (And no, I was no longer 17 at that time).

Sorry for the messed up post, I have a nice headache this morning that prevents me from writing something... better tought out

Oh, and if one of you like to talk about computer sciences, computer networks sciences, fantasy and SF universes or the Cthulhu Mythos, mp me. Got a lot of work but I drop by every morning. I'll definitely answer.

[mabedzaqueen]

Originally Posted by StellaDixxie

the majority that chose casual sex strike me as cowards.

Hi Stella! First, let me explain why ?the majority that chose casual sex? do not strike me as cowards... I believe it takes balls for someone who's been in a LTR (married or not) for a number of years to put it all in jeopardy just to make a dream (or fantasy) come true, knowing from the start how unbearable the outcome may be; Also, i can't see someone ready to risk his health for a few hours of intense pleasure (or a life-changing experience?) as a ?coward?...

Second, if it's not too personal, could you please tell us the reason why they're cowards in your eyes?? For me, well i voted ?not sure? as it is very much how i feel after 19 years of marriage, a divorce, two encounters with money-hungry MILFs (first one Disappointing, second one Disastrous), the 'discovery' that i was not-so-straight-after-all and, for good measure, a rapidly growing taste towards young femboys Now i guess i'll just see what the future brings...
______
Dennis.

[Translover Jonny]

I would go for full time marriage, I have been married before to an "ordinary" girl and now i have tried that and no more! Ladyboys are my passion in life now and i can?t even imagine me going back to "ordinary" girls again. You know once you got a taste of it ;-).
I only date ladyboys now and i definitely hope to find my future wife some day. The problem is that many beautiful ladyboy wants to make the surgery and become full time women as fast as possible, i understand that but the problem for me is to find a sweet and good looking ladyboy that won?t do the surgery and become at post-op ladyboy. The one i would like to marry and spend my life with should stay pre-op, I just love them the way they are.

[aussiepride]

i chose marriage because i am effectively already married to a ts.
in the near future i willm get a ring and a civil ceremony (as close to same sex marriage in aus as u can get).

[Dhobi]

I would love a long term relationship that led to marriage - but I am an old guy and so see that as an impossible dream now.

[testbed]

If I met the right girl then I would want to get married to her.

[parr]

It would depend on the individual. I was never too partial to "one night stands".

[curiousguy]

something casual with no strings,id want to pre arrange a time and have her call me when she wants some action.

[aussiepride]

Originally Posted by curiousguy

something casual with no strings,id want to pre arrange a time and have her call me when she wants some action.

i had that for 2 mnths, every tuesday at 3.30 lol. she was best sex i ever had with a ts too. happy memories.

Originally Posted by Dhobi

I would love a long term relationship that led to marriage - but I am an old guy and so see that as an impossible dream now.

You have seen the entire world, Dhobi, sailorman, you have seen exotic beauties and extravagant wonders, weird animals, unexplored islands, tormented seas, every type of humans and cultures. Who knows, my friend ? Everything is possible...

[svartekaptenen]

Originally Posted by StellaDixxie

the majority that chose casual sex strike me as cowards.

I disagree a marriage is a serious commitment that one should not enter
without giving it serious thought and contemplation.

Originally Posted by svartekaptenen

I disagree a marriage is a serious commitment that one should not enter
without giving it serious thought and contemplation.

Very true. But if we re-ask the question with cis (non trans) women. Would the same people who said only casual sex with trans girls, also say casual sex with cis girls? If the answer is yes, than not a big deal. But if the answer is no, than they are in fact cowards in my opinion.

[lancslad]

I voted Full Time Girlfriend

Though I am married. If I wasn't then I would have no problems being in a relationship and have no problems with people knowing I am seeing a ladyboy.

If you are happy then it shouldn't matter who you are with, be they girl/boy/ladyboy.

For me not it's not likey to happen unless I have complete breakdown of my relationship.

Would I like to have casual sex with a ladyboy? Of course, they are extremely attractive and beautiful

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

Very true. But if we re-ask the question with cis (non trans) women. Would the same people who said only casual sex with trans girls, also say casual sex with cis girls? If the answer is yes, than not a big deal. But if the answer is no, than they are in fact cowards in my opinion.

Scintillating point. It would mean that someone fancies t-ladies as fantasies or as pure objects of perversion, but totaly disreagard both their personalities and their feelings as persons.

[ila]

Originally Posted by danthepoetman

Scintillating point. It would mean that someone fancies t-ladies as fantasies or as pure objects of perversion, but totaly disreagard both their personalities and their feelings as persons.

The part that I put in bold (although taken out of context) would applies to more than just those looking for sex with transwomen. A look through online adds will show that regardless of whether people are looking for homo or hetero sex that a common theme is NSA (no strings attached).

Originally Posted by ila

The part that I put in bold (although taken out of context) would applies to more than just those looking for sex with transwomen. A look through online adds will show that regardless of whether people are looking for homo or hetero sex that a common theme is NSA (no strings attached).

And NSA means, in my book, No Satisfaction Allowed. haha
Because emotional pleasure goes hand in hand with physical pleasure for me.

[ila]

Originally Posted by ThirdEyeGirl

And NSA means, in my book, No Satisfaction Allowed. haha
Because emotional pleasure goes hand in hand with physical pleasure for me.

I love your definition of NSA.

Originally Posted by ila

I love your definition of NSA.

And I just came up with that on the fly. hehe

Originally Posted by ila

The part that I put in bold (although taken out of context) would applies to more than just those looking for sex with transwomen. A look through online adds will show that regardless of whether people are looking for homo or hetero sex that a common theme is NSA (no strings attached).

Yes indeed, ila, we see that all over personnal ads and pages after pages. We live in a pretty cold world, and the fact that we all meet here on this forum might be either a demonstration of that or an escape from it -i'm not the first "genius" to point that one out... But in this precise case, as expressed by ThirdEyeGirl, it would mean that someone would care for a relationship with a gg, but show total disdain for the feelings of a t-woman in a potential affair, which would seem utterly contemptuous and disgusting. I don't understand how anyone can envision any person like that. They in such case would might as well use a doll or a dildo (or what is it, a "fleshlight" ? is that how it's called ? -anyways...) I'm always puzzled by such demeanor and/or frame of mind...

[sissyffm]

i want my lady to marry me

[curiousguy221]

hopefully a romantic relationship with the possibility of marriage. sex may be fine and good for some people but i think i could only really do it with someone who i trust and care for so i should at least be friends with whoever i end up doing it with i think.

[Hieralias]

I voted Casual sex, but I'm open to a discrete relationship

[ian_love2]

I'm looking for just super hot sex, I'm turned away from relationships at Tue moment thanks to my ex.

[reynardthefox]

I went for Full Time Tgirlfriend. I would have gone for marriage, but that is a horrible deal for men/breadwinners, at least in the West. I wouldn't marry a gg either.

[LarryP]

I'm currently in a relationship with a TGirl (pre-op). We have been seeing each other for over 6months. Things are going well--pretty much a typical developing relationship as we continue to get to know one another. She's very passable and lives her life completely as a woman. we've discussed moving in together, but not marriage. WE'll see how this plays out. We love each other, what can I say. Life is good.

[zoomrolf]

As a frequent travelor to Asia, I have seen many a happy guy married to a delightful ladyboy. To a man, they say they dote on him and he is so please to return the doting. No one raises an eye in Thailand should you have a beautiful ladyboy on your arm. Not so in the Philippines although there are so many nice ladyboys in Angeles and Manila. Now if you have someone so passable, such as Amy ( Emma ) on tap, no one anywhere in the world would be the wiser. Of course Emma, will cost you a pretty penny to spend time with.

[besorted]

I'm head over (high) heels in love with a wonderful Philippines LB, recently back from visiting her, I'm married, scared to ask for a divorce but know i can't live without my beautiful pinay. Help! Has anyone successfully got there asian girl friend to the UK, if so please share how you managed it!

[angela671]

I'm one of those "jaded" girls. When you constantly get stared or leered at all day, molested by sexist co-workers, hit on by immature "boys" at your fav afterwork bar or groped on your way to the bathroom, have dates fall apart on you, pestered on fb for "add-mes", have to deal with penis pics as a FIRST MSG by new guys (btw wth is up with that? if i had a dick that was shrinkly, short, warty, hairy, bent, had acne, covered in yellow or green goo, looking black and diseased, had tattoos of chewie on it or just plain freaky, i'd seriously consider another way of getting a girls attention. Even being built like a porn star only gets a quick comment before being deleted and unfriended!). Be original, actually care about the girl HERSELF and be a gentleman. TRUST ME, you'll stand out from the other 99% of the guys. Bianca is right, continually wading through the filth doesnt make it easy to find a serious relationship. Having a guy wade though all that muck, deal comfortably with the tg issues and steal her heart is rare to find (I would so treat THAT MAN like a king!). And I do feel bad for the "real guys". It's overwhelmingly stacked against you. Don't give up though. If you are genuine, your girl is waiting somewhere out there for you!!

Yeah, I would like something serious. Most girls would as well i think.

[smc]

Originally Posted by angela671

I'm one of those "jaded" girls. When you constantly get stared or leered at all day, molested by sexist co-workers, hit on by immature "boys" at your fav afterwork bar or groped on your way to the bathroom, have dates fall apart on you, pestered on fb for "add-mes", have to deal with penis pics as a FIRST MSG by new guys (btw wth is up with that? if i had a dick that was shrinkly, short, warty, hairy, bent, had acne, covered in yellow or green goo, looking black and diseased, had tattoos of chewie on it or just plain freaky, i'd seriously consider another way of getting a girls attention. Even being built like a porn star only gets a quick comment before being deleted and unfriended!). Be original, actually care about the girl HERSELF and be a gentleman. TRUST ME, you'll stand out from the other 99% of the guys. Bianca is right, continually wading through the filth doesnt make it easy to find a serious relationship. Having a guy wade though all that muck, deal comfortably with the tg issues and steal her heart is rare to find (I would so treat THAT MAN like a king!). And I do feel bad for the "real guys". It's overwhelmingly stacked against you. Don't give up though. If you are genuine, your girl is waiting somewhere out there for you!!

Yeah, I would like something serious. Most girls would as well i think.

Wow, what truth: the way it's stacked against the real guys, because of the behavior of all the assholes who think only with their dicks.

It's enough to make one wish he wasn't a man!

[mabedzaqueen]

Originally Posted by angela671

And I do feel bad for the "real guys". I would like something serious. Most girls would as well i think.

Hi Angela and welcome to the forum! After having carefully read your interesting post, i can only conclude that if someone gave you the opportunity to jump in a spaceship and fly the hell out of this gross, filthy, obnoxious world, you'd do it in a heartbeat, no??

Normally, i try to avoid giving gratuitous advice 'cause it makes me feel like an old fart, but when i see people getting disappointed when they notice that the world they live in is not up to their standards, it just screams to me they haven't (yet) understood that ?reality? and ?perfection? will never walk hand-in-hand Look Angela, as i read your post i could almost smell your frustration and (believe it or not) i see your point: over the years i have met quite a few perfectionists and i didn't get a happy-person "vibe" from any of 'em... Lots of people have tried to make this world a better place and how many have succeeded?

Afterthought: you know what? I'm ready to bet even those you label as "real guys" do have some sort of black cloud following them (from a distance so you may not see it on the first few dates).

______
Dennis.

[angela671]

lolol I didn't realize I was giving the impression i wanted perfect. Everyone has baggage and I can deal with that. No one is perfect. And frankly I don't want perfect. I'd settle for just being happy.

I think you missed the point though.
My "reality" as you put it, goes something like this: Guy1 hey baby, youve got sweet lips, i'd love to put.... Guy2 Your gorgeous, you wanna get out of here and f***? Guy3 Hey, i knew you from before as a guy, since you changed you must get f***ed alot. Guy4 Thats a cute ass, I'd love to f*** it! Guy5 (co-worker) I've had fantasies bout a girl like you..you wanna f*** after work? but dont tell my wife. Guy6 Your a tranny right? You wanna fwb? Guy7 Gawd i would so do your ass. C'mon i'll make it worth your while.(money) Guy8 blahblahf**kblah
I could go on and on and on. After awhile, you overload and simply get jaded. You blank, but you smile and move on.And that's just what i call the "little boys"!
And then there are the "straight" guys you date, who want a tgirlfriend but are afraid of being seen in public with one. You don't meet their friends, coworkers or family. He takes you to late night movies, picnics at secluded beaches, long drives to nowhere or grocery shopping but you have to stay in the car. You never go anywhere together that might be "too public". You end up feeling like a 2nd class girlfriend.

I'm grounded and as down to earth as you can possibly get. I don't expect perfect. And I certainly don't expect a knight in shining armor to scoop me up and save me. But it would be nice to be seen as more than a sex object. To know that i mean more than that to someone. To be with one, who doesn't care if others see if we hold hands. And isn't afraid of what others might think. Maybe i'm asking for too much..maybe that's perfection? If it is, then i guess, beam me up.

now if oyu dont mind, i have a box of tissues calling me again...

[smc]

Originally Posted by angela671

... But it would be nice to be seen as more than a sex object. To know that i mean more than that to someone. To be with one, who doesn't care if others see if we hold hands. And isn't afraid of what others might think. Maybe i'm asking for too much..maybe that's perfection? If it is, then i guess, beam me up. ...

Don't despair completely. There really are guys out there who are decent. I look at a lot of porn in large part to "get out of my system" the shit you describe above. And I don't see escorts. The transwomen with whom I've had relationships are a graduate student I met in a non-bar, non-sex situation and who I spent a long time having mostly "academic"-related discussions with before even kissing, a woman I met on the local subway and had a discussion with when the train broke down (later going out for coffee three times before even holding hands), and a friend who I invited to Boston as a getaway from some family problems, made not a single "move" on, and who -- after a few days -- fell asleep in my arms after a long discussion about life's toils and troubles and then woke up to kiss me and make love (something she said she'd never done before).

I mention this only to show that there are decent guys. I've met others. True, most men are dogs and they think primarily with their dicks, but some manage to overcome that ... even if only fleetingly.

[angela671]

oh and top of all that..she still has to deal with her own tg issues as well.
Spending way more time shopping than a gg would. (Because nothing fits!) Spending more money than a gg would..seamstress, hormones, counselor, doctor, voice training, ffs etc. Trying to find a job. Trying to find a job with insurance that'll cover you. Keeping your job. Being hassled by cops because your sex on id doesn't match how you present. Coming out issues. Losing friends. Losing family. and on and on and on. Self doubt. Questioning whether dealing with all that, is really worth it.

So yeah, your tgirl already has alot on her mind BEFORE you even approach her. Tending to jackasses is NOT the highlight of her day.

I'm actually starting to get a little steamed here. You can keep your "gratuitous advice". I have enough on my plate, thank you!

[a9127]

I guess I might be one of the “good guys.” I don’t know. You’ll have to ask around and read some of my older posts and decide for yourself. I left because of my dissatisfaction with the number of insulting, ignorant (often ungendering), and just plain stupid posts that were tolerated (newcomers responding to 5 year old threads without checking for example). And the number of people who fall for “merelypink” never ceases to amaze me. Until my account was closed I had over 1000 posts as “aw9725.” Tried to come back and found I couldn’t “re activate” my account so here I am under a different name.

My desire when I joined TLB way back in 2009 was originally to learn more and also meet a transwoman for a long term relationship and marriage. I am active in the LGBT community and have many gay and lesbian friends. Over the years I have developed friendships with both M2F and F2M transsexuals but have never been in a relationship. I consider myself “straight” but as you know human sexuality is so much more complicated than that. I related a story here about a possible “missed opportunity” from when I was in college. I’m sure you can find it if you are interested.

Somewhere along the way I met a very beautiful and wonderful ciswoman who shares my interest in LGBT issues and we were married in March 2011. I have remained active here on and off primarily due to friends like ila, smc, Fran, Bionca, Dauls, shadows (where did he go anyway?), the conquistador, and many others.

To anyone who is new here and looking for friends, here’s hoping you will stay.

[smc]

Originally Posted by angela671

... I'm actually starting to get a little steamed here. You can keep your "gratuitous advice". I have enough on my plate, thank you!

It would appear that angela671 and I were posting at the same time, so I wanted to make sure that the "gratuitous advice" to which she is responding is actually above my post, which is immediately above hers.

[Jon Boehner]

to a real girly girl would be the best.

[NoNameXIV]

casual sex all the way, i am in my early 20ies to young for marriage and i have never meet a girl i would want to have a relationship with.
I love the fact i can do what i want when i want, never have to apologize or explain myself, got complete FREEDOM and i don't think ill be giving that up just yet

[joe1987]

Since I decided to man up and let everyone in my family know that I'm attracted to transgendered women and not so much to genetic women, I'd like to eventually get married one day and maybe start a family with her.

I realised I deserve to be happy and I don't want to be one of those guys that ends up getting married to a genetic woman, has kids and then decides to sneak off to wherever and have an affair with a TG and possibly ruin their marriage because they were living a lie. I wouldn't be able to live like that.

It would be unfair to me and to the woman I truly want to be with. So it's out in the open now and I'm happy to say that I can now think about having a future with the woman of my dreams, wherever she may be!

WAHOO!

[toon198122]

Serious tgirlfriend for me I'm in a relationship right now and wouldn't have it any other way at the moment but if I ws still single I'd go to marriage