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[aussiepride]

Originally Posted by smc

Monogamy has been shown scientifically to be an unnatural state for humans. Why don't you talk to your wife about this "intense infatuation"? If your marriage is as good as you say, and you approach the conversation in a loving way, it may turn out to be a very good thing. Sure, it can be difficult in the beginning, but you never know.

What science is that?

[smc]

Originally Posted by aussiepride

What science is that?

If you go to scholar.google.com and enter the search terms "monogamy" and "humans," you will find links to much of the research. A regular Google search of "monogamy" and "humans" and "unnatural" will yield links to popular reporting of the research subject.

I would not make such a claim in the way I did absent genuine backup.

I have been married for the second time since March 2011. My wife knows I am a member here and has actually been on TLB a few times herself. She has no problems with the friendships I?ve made or my activities in support of LGBT rights. Fantasy and role playing can be part of any healthy relationship but if you are thinking about engaging in sexual activity outside of your relationship you would be better off to discuss this with your partner first. How serious is this desire for example? What do you stand to gain? Or lose? Are things currently intolerable with your present partner? Are the both of you into ?fooling around?? Where do you think that will lead? If your relationship is truly open then you should have no problem discussing any of this with her.

[aussiepride]

Originally Posted by smc

If you go to scholar.google.com and enter the search terms "monogamy" and "humans," you will find links to much of the research. A regular Google search of "monogamy" and "humans" and "unnatural" will yield links to popular reporting of the research subject.

I would not make such a claim in the way I did absent genuine backup.

Oh sorry I wasnt tought in school that google overdides stringent testing of hypothesis, as was once considered "shown scientifically"
Seems you can get anything published these days and it's considered fact.
Most humans still engage in monogamy, but then again I didn't test that statement, so perhaps it's not true..

[smc]

Originally Posted by aussiepride

Oh sorry I wasnt tought in school that google overdides stringent testing of hypothesis, as was once considered "shown scientifically"
Seems you can get anything published these days and it's considered fact.
Most humans still engage in monogamy, but then again I didn't test that statement, so perhaps it's not true..

If you had actually looked at Google Scholar, or knew anything about it, you wouldn't have been so quick to assume that it is just like "googling" something generally, and then you might not have dug yourself into the hole of writing something so profoundly ignorant in an effort to make what I wrote seem stupid.

Google Scholar is a search engine for research articles published in peer-reviewed, academic journals published worldwide. It's has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to "get anything published." But, hey, I give you credit for trying to respond.

As for your second point, the fact that humans engage in something doesn't make it the natural state of things. Do you think enslaving other humans is a natural state for the human race? Or do you think that those who enslave may think it is natural (and thus okay) because it was done in the generations that preceded their lives? Do you think the nature vs. nurture argument is a legitimate one for serious researchers?

(By the way, most humans accepted slavery in the U.S. South during a long period of America's history ... "but then again I didn't test that statement, so perhaps it's not true.")

Or, does real science and real scholarship, not the crap you're trying to associate with me through your insipid Google comment, hurt your brain?

[aussiepride]

Another derogatory, offensive and spiteful post.

I know about scholar, and as far as research into this field.. I have actually been reading it for many years.

Your use of an example of slavery is downright mind boggling and does not help the argument one bit. Equating that lots of people appear to stay monogamous , is like how slavery was what we all use to do..? How is that te se at all? Seems to me a profoundly ignorant thing to say...
TESTING a theory or idea about monogamy is inherently hard to do... Gathering some statistical data that "men like to fool around" is neither good science nor proof.

Originally Posted by smc

If you had actually looked at Google Scholar, or knew anything about it, you wouldn't have been so quick to assume that it is just like "googling" something generally, and then you might not have dug yourself into the hole of writing something so profoundly ignorant in an effort to make what I wrote seem stupid.

Google Scholar is a search engine for research articles published in peer-reviewed, academic journals published worldwide. It's has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to "get anything published." But, hey, I give you credit for trying to respond.

As for your second point, the fact that humans engage in something doesn't make it the natural state of things. Do you think enslaving other humans is a natural state for the human race? Or do you think that those who enslave may think it is natural (and thus okay) because it was done in the generations that preceded their lives? Do you think the nature vs. nurture argument is a legitimate one for serious researchers?

(By the way, most humans accepted slavery in the U.S. South during a long period of America's history ... "but then again I didn't test that statement, so perhaps it's not true.")

Or, does real science and real scholarship, not the crap you're trying to associate with me through your insipid Google comment, hurt your brain?

[smc]

Originally Posted by aussiepride

Another derogatory, offensive and spiteful post.

I know about scholar, and as far as research into this field.. I have actually been reading it for many years.

Your use of an example of slavery is downright mind boggling and does not help the argument one bit. Equating that lots of people appear to stay monogamous , is like how slavery was what we all use to do..? How is that te se at all? Seems to me a profoundly ignorant thing to say...
TESTING a theory or idea about monogamy is inherently hard to do... Gathering some statistical data that "men like to fool around" is neither good science nor proof.

If you knew about Google Scholar, then explain your post in which you tried to equate it with simple "googling" and tried to make it look like what I was referring to was "unscientific." There is no other way to interpret your statement "Oh sorry I wasnt tought in school that google overdides stringent testing of hypothesis, as was once considered "shown scientifically""

And I did not equate slavery and monogamy. You know that, but it doesn't serve your purpose to admit to understanding that the statement wasn't about equating the two, but to point out that humans can accept something that isn't natural, regardless of what it is.

You don't like to be called out for your posts, and so you accuse others of bullying you. Once again, the record is clear, and my post in response to yours -- the one you chose to mock with your "google" bullshit -- could not be more clear itself.