GOP'ish candidates

[smc]

Originally Posted by GRH

Tracy, you've put words in my mouth. I was making no statement about whether you have a point in this current conversation...Only pointing out prior behavior and how it perhaps inflames this whole back-and-forth. Admittedly, you have done a better (perhaps not perfect...but who's perfect?) job of addressing my points/conversations. The whole dynamic between you and smc...It's comical at times. I will admit my own bias in that I share political disposition with smc on more topics than with you, so perhaps I'm drawn to taking his side more often than not. That said...You do come across as a troll quite often.

Quite frankly, I think you're both acting a bit childish. I'm so over this current conversation that I'm going to tune this thread out until it meanders into a discussion that I once again care to follow.

You're right, GRH ... it should have been over long ago. I'm going to drop out of it, too. TracyCoxx, as I documented, is responsible for extending it beyond my initial legitimate question about the comparison between Hitler and Obama made within the GOP context, broadly defined. It could have been over with a few posts about a relevant topic, but TracyCoxx chose to weave this tale of oppression, of how things were attributed to TracyCoxx that I never so attributed. That TracyCoxx has refused over and again to answer the original question, as I have suggested, is an answer itself. Case closed.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

TracyCoxx chose to weave this tale of oppression, of how things were attributed to TracyCoxx that I never so attributed. That TracyCoxx has refused over and again to answer the original question, as I have suggested, is an answer itself.

I'm oppressed? News to me. But I will not respond to your trolling. And since you still cannot say how your question has anything to do with the video you popped a gasket over that apparently is exactly what it was.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

smc...


I posted a hitler spoof video, and then you asked me if I repudiate all of my ideological cothinkers on so many issues who have made such comparisons (between obama & hitler).

You have not pointed out any comparison in the video between obama and hitler. You've certainly agreed that I never said anything like that. It's really odd that you would suddenly blurt out such an off topic and inflamatory question. The only reason you've given is this:
Which is a general statement that because you think GOP candidates sympathize with the Tea Party, they must automatically agree with Tea Party supporters who carry obama/hitler signs. That may be a subject for this thread, in your own twisted reasoning, but it still does not explain what it has to do with the hitler spoof video I posted that makes no such comparison. With these off topic inflamatory remarks of your, I'd say you're trolling again.

Why, do you think I would have any reason to say the following about tslust:
You're not making any sense again.

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I'm oppressed? News to me. But I will not respond to your trolling. And since you still cannot say how your question has anything to do with the video you popped a gasket over that apparently is exactly what it was.

Everyone one of these points has been dealt with over and over. You know it, and so does anyone who reads this thread. Your only purpose is obvious: through obfuscation, refuse to answer the legitimate question about GOP candidates that was posed.

Refusal, over and over and over ... because, as GRH said better than I ever have:

Tracy, you DO have a pretty well established history of dodging the meat and potatoes of a post and trying to change the topic. Presumably this is because you don't have a substantive argument to back up your beliefs.

I think the discussion is over. The conclusion is clear from this simple fact: TracyCoxx refuses to answer the question.

[TracyCoxx]

omg... this is disgusting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MxqkWhFcSA

Even Michelle cringed

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

omg... this is disgusting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MxqkWhFcSA

Even Michelle cringed

The stuff about Mitt Romney's dog being transported atop the car began these shenanigans. While it may speak to Romney's character in some respects, it's a distraction from serious campaign issues. The GOP's recent response regarding Obama's culturally legitimate sampling of dog as a child (having spent some of his childhood in Indonesia) is no less of a distraction. That it can be dismissed humorously by the president, just as Romney has largely ignored the Seamus stories, is a breath of fresh air.

As for why this video was posted, well ... of course, it's TracyCoxx's parting shot after losing the last battle by refusing to answer the questions posed by his earlier provocation. But at least TracyCoxx is a gracious troll, by which I mean a troll who seems happy to confirm being a troll when called on it.

Oh, TracyCoxx, was I not supposed to post anything about this video, since my name wasn't mentioned in your post? I have a difficult time keeping track of the special privileges you've reserved for yourself when it comes to your participation here. Or is it just that I'm not supposed to post if you mention any other member by name?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

The GOP's recent response regarding Obama's culturally legitimate sampling of dog as a child (having spent some of his childhood in Indonesia) is no less of a distraction.

Culturally legitimate for someone not raised as an American, who is now for some reason an American president.

Originally Posted by smc

As for why this video was posted, well ... of course, it's TracyCoxx's parting shot after losing the last battle by refusing to answer the questions posed by his earlier provocation.

You never did show that your question about obama/hitler comparisons were anything more than an off topic inflamatory remark and have yet to show any link to the video I posted that somehow prompted your question.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Culturally legitimate for someone not raised as an American, who is now for some reason an American president.

FINALLY, TracyCoxx reveals the true TracyCoxx. Xenophobic, nativist, perhaps even racist ... just like all the right-wingers who raise this very issue of "otherness" about Obama.

The "some reason" you mention is called an election by American voters, voting for their American president.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Culturally legitimate for someone not raised as an American, who is now for some reason an American president.

You never did show that your question about obama/hitler comparisons were anything more than an off topic inflamatory remark and have yet to show any link to the video I posted that somehow prompted your question.

Fucking amazing. Well done Tracy. I even applauded you for being so subtle. It's not "culturally legitimate" because he was not raised as an American. It's culturally legitimate because it's meat like any other.

And you really must give up this pretense about smc posting off topic remarks. He made it quite clear that it is troubling for you to have posted a video about Hitler reacting to Obama not because it made an explicit link between the two men but that they both were part of the video and that it was you of all people posting it.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

You're right, GRH ... it should have been over long ago. I'm going to drop out of it, too. TracyCoxx, as I documented, is responsible for extending it beyond my initial legitimate question about the comparison between Hitler and Obama made within the GOP context, broadly defined. It could have been over with a few posts about a relevant topic, but TracyCoxx chose to weave this tale of oppression, of how things were attributed to TracyCoxx that I never so attributed. That TracyCoxx has refused over and again to answer the original question, as I have suggested, is an answer itself. Case closed.

Actually it went on for as long as it did because of your insistence that I answer a question that had nothing to do with the spoof video I posted, and was only as you claim relevant to the thread. So I am still wondering why, if it had nothing to do with the video i posted, why are you insisting on an answer from me? In other words, how did I get tangled up in your subtopic?

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Actually it went on for as long as it did because of your insistence that I answer a question that had nothing to do with the spoof video I posted, and was only as you claim relevant to the thread. So I am still wondering why, if it had nothing to do with the video i posted, why are you insisting on an answer from me? In other words, how did I get tangled up in your subtopic?

You're just full of shit, aren't you? The reasons for the relevance of my question has been well established. You simply choose to keep pretending it's not relevant so you don't have to answer the question about GOP candidates. Were you an honest, genuine discussant of these issues, aiming for real discourse, you would follow the lead of tslust and how tslust addressed the issue. But you continue to demonstrate that if you are not all troll, the tendency to be troll-like is strong within you.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

You're just full of shit, aren't you? The reasons for the relevance of my question has been well established. You simply choose to keep pretending it's not relevant so you don't have to answer the question about GOP candidates. Were you an honest, genuine discussant of these issues, aiming for real discourse, you would follow the lead of tslust and how tslust addressed the issue. But you continue to demonstrate that if you are not all troll, the tendency to be troll-like is strong within you.

Sorry smc, I'm not going to let you get away with this bs. The record is here for all to see:

Originally Posted by smc

Then TracyCoxx twisted the thread into being about me accusing TracyCoxx of making the comparison, which I never did. All I did was raise a question about the comparison in the context of the GOP -- a question legitimate to the thread.

The record is there for all to see.

You say that I said you're accusing me of making a comparison (between Obama and Hitler). An assumption on my part because it's the only reason I could think of that you'd be pestering me about it. Ok, you're not accusing me of making a comparison. Fine. Like your quote above says, you're raising a question about the comparison in the context of the GOP, which you say is legitimate to the thread. If you said "that video you posted compares Obama to Hitler (which it doesn't) I ask you, Tracy Coxx, do you repudiate all of your ideological cothinkers on so many issues who have made such comparisons?" That I can see, if you erroneously thought the video made the comparison. But it doesn't and you never said it did, so I'm sorry, I am unable to make the connection from what you say is a legitimate thread discussion to my specific posting of that video. And I will treat it as the off-topic (in the context of the video I posted) inflammatory remark (i.e. troll-like remark) that it is. Better luck next time.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Sorry smc, I'm not going to let you get away with this bs. The record is here for all to see:
You say that I said you're accusing me of making a comparison (between Obama and Hitler). An assumption on my part because it's the only reason I could think of that you'd be pestering me about it. Ok, you're not accusing me of making a comparison. Fine. Like your quote above says, you're raising a question about the comparison in the context of the GOP, which you say is legitimate to the thread. If you said "that video you posted compares Obama to Hitler (which it doesn't) I ask you, Tracy Coxx, do you repudiate all of your ideological cothinkers on so many issues who have made such comparisons?" That I can see, if you erroneously thought the video made the comparison. But it doesn't and you never said it did, so I'm sorry, I am unable to make the connection from what you say is a legitimate thread discussion to my specific posting of that video. And I will treat it as the off-topic (in the context of the video I posted) inflammatory remark (i.e. troll-like remark) that it is. Better luck next time.

Congratulations on one of your more articulate dodges. I note that still, after all this time, you have not repudiated the comparison made by so many of your ideological cothinkers.

So, here goes. Forget about the video for now.

TracyCoxx, many of those who I believe could be rightly called your ideological cothinkers on a number of issues have compared Obama to Hitler. This has been done in the form of signs at Tea Party rallies and even in statements made public. Throughout the GOP primaries, and since, Republican candidates for the presidency have failed to repudiate these comparisons. I ask you, TracyCoxx, do you repudiate the comparisons between Hitler and Obama?

[smc]

Originally Posted by smc

Congratulations on one of your more articulate dodges. I note that still, after all this time, you have not repudiated the comparison made by so many of your ideological cothinkers.

So, here goes. Forget about the video for now.

TracyCoxx, many of those who I believe could be rightly called your ideological cothinkers on a number of issues have compared Obama to Hitler. This has been done in the form of signs at Tea Party rallies and even in statements made public. Throughout the GOP primaries, and since, Republican candidates for the presidency have failed to repudiate these comparisons. I ask you, TracyCoxx, do you repudiate the comparisons between Hitler and Obama?

By the way, this is a simple yes-or-no question.