to those in charge of the Miss Universe Canada KISS THIS

[kenstar]

Originally Posted by DeaconBlues

Hey there Transjen,

I agree with you 110% on this! I am shocked to read that this happened in Canada! I always figured the Canadians were a bit more civil, well mannered and more progressive than most other folks. But now some snobs are saying that a TG is not elegible to compete with GG's?!? That is just soooooo wrong!

their just jealous that a t-girl might win or people might get an erection and become confused, pathetic I say.
I long for the day when t-girls are treated like regular women with the same equal rights.
how cool would it be to have a bunch of g-girls lose to a t-girl?
It could happen (should happen)


"I'm Ken Star and I approve this message."

[smc]

Originally Posted by kenstar

their just jealous that a t-girl might win or people might get an erection and become confused, pathetic I say.
I long for the day when t-girls are treated like regular women with the same equal rights.
how cool would it be to have a bunch of g-girls lose to a t-girl?
It could happen (should happen)


"I'm Ken Star and I approve this message."

Wow, how insulting! This is genuine discrimination, not jealousy.

[aussiepride]

****JUST A WARNING THAT THIS POST CONTAINS OPINIONS THAT ARE NOT PERSONALLY HELD BY MYSELF, but are expressed by a number of transexual woman that i have been in conversation with***

personally, well to me they are woman, so what ths prob, but many of my ts friends has become very vocal in disapproval of allowing a ts (pre or post op) woman to comepte in the miss universe.

one friend called it disrespectful to "real woman' (her quote), and took away from what the pagent is about. and some of these ts that say this could well hold there own in this pagent.

do the other ts woman on this site hold similar opinions?
me personally its not a big deal, most people see them as woman, they can hold identification that says they are a woman..and yet they cannot be seem with ggs? for what reason...? none.


and what made my blood boil over this topic was a public post to the online news article in australia by one particular person. i thought about reposting it here to show the degree of bigotry, misunderstanding and damm near hatred some people hold regarging this, but i decided opinions like that are left buried in cyber world.

[smc]

Originally Posted by aussiepride

****JUST A WARNING THAT THIS POST CONTAINS OPINIONS THAT ARE NOT PERSONALLY HELD BY MYSELF, but are expressed by a number of transexual woman that i have been in conversation with***

personally, well to me they are woman, so what ths prob, but many of my ts friends has become very vocal in disapproval of allowing a ts (pre or post op) woman to comepte in the miss universe.

one friend called it disrespectful to "real woman' (her quote), and took away from what the pagent is about. and some of these ts that say this could well hold there own in this pagent.

do the other ts woman on this site hold similar opinions?
me personally its not a big deal, most people see them as woman, they can hold identification that says they are a woman..and yet they cannot be seem with ggs? for what reason...? none. ...

I find it difficult to imagine that any trans person who GENUINELY self-identifies as a WOMAN holds the opinion you ascribe above. NOTE my use of the word GENUINELY. I am not doubting the veracity of what you say they told you, only the veracity of who they claim to be. I suspect that when they speak to themselves, they don't make that claim.

[aussiepride]

Originally Posted by smc

I find it difficult to imagine that any trans person who GENUINELY self-identifies as a WOMAN holds the opinion you ascribe above. NOTE my use of the word GENUINELY. I am not doubting the veracity of what you say they told you, only the veracity of who they claim to be. I suspect that when they speak to themselves, they don't make that claim.

i totally agree with u here. i mean the girls i am referring to are pre-op.. and have no plans to change that.. ie they still see themselves as "third sex" or something... and i am only guessing as to why.

it really fascinates me as to why they think like this.

this is the translation of a fb quote from a ts friend. i can repost the original statement in philo if people want: (and this ts girl is ... DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!)
Well I think that transsexuals beriamos not participate in Miss Universe because we have our own competitions and we are proud of what we are. Women like us are more beautiful than those who were born women.

[JodieTs]

Jenna Talackova in has also previously represented Canada at
Miss International Queen, a beauty pageant for transsexuals.
If she did this while post op,
then bio-women should be allowed to enter tranny pageants.
~~~After all, fairs fair.

Ladies and gents...
Enjoy. She is beautiful, and that's enough.