GOP'ish candidates

[ila]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

...I thought DADT was a good compromise between allowing gays in the military, and taking into consideration the reality that an openly gay person in the military, right or wrong, is going to be a distraction and at worse will put gay servicemen/women's lives in danger...

Originally Posted by smc

Here's what you actually wrote:

"I thought DADT was a good compromise between allowing gays in the military, and taking into consideration the reality that an openly gay person in the military, right or wrong, is going to be a distraction and at worse will put gay servicemen/women's lives in danger."

Anyone who knows how to diagram a sentence can tell you that what you are referring to as a "thought" is DADT as a compromise. The rest of what you state is not presented as your thought, but as a claim to be "reality."...

That's what I also understood Tracy's post to mean.

[smc]

Originally Posted by ila

That's what I also understood Tracy's post to mean.

Thank you, ila. And it must really be Tracy's belief, because given the opportunity to recant, Tracy passed. Of course, the imperative to post like a troll may have overwhelmed reason at that moment.

[transjen]

Bachman is a zero term president
Bachman is teaparty wackado and needs a change of address form to show her new home at the funny farm
Bachman is very good at finger pointing and complaining and laying all the blame at the DEMS but she never offers any ideas on what she would do to fix things no wonder the GOP love her
Her only answer is continue with the failed policies of W which were the continuing of his fathers failed policies who was continuing the failed policies of Reagan who was nothing then a two bit brain dead movie actor no wonder this country is so screwed up
Jerseygirl Jen

[smc]

Originally Posted by transjen

... Bachman is teaparty wackado and needs a change of address form to show her new home at the funny farm ...

She's beyond "wackado," Jen. Remember in 2004, when she said that if a teacher showed a picture from "The Lion King" and then said, "Do you know that the music for this movie was written by a gay man?," the teacher would be participating in the "normalization" of homosexuality, which would lead to "desensitization." The message, claimed Bachmann, would be: "I'm better at what I do, because I'm gay."

In 2008, she said -- revealing her tremendous grasp of science -- that "carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn?t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas."

But my favorite Bachmannism is when she testified to the Minnesota State Senate in 2005 that abolishing the minimum wage would create jobs. "Literally," she said, "if we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level." Putting aside that reducing the minimum wage has been shown by economists to be contractionary, it really speaks to the kind of United States she wants: "jobs at whatever level," with no protection.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by transjen

Bachman is teaparty wackado

The phrase "teaparty wackado" is redundant. The one word offers the same information as the other.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The phrase "teaparty wackado" is redundant. The one word offers the same information as the other.

Oh the irony. Calling something redundant, and then defining redundant.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Oh the irony. Calling something redundant, and then defining redundant.

Oh, the typicality ... moving on to the next topic to avoid confronting having been called out for the previous topic.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Oh the irony. Calling something redundant, and then defining redundant.

This would be funnier were it not as smc said: you are using me to avoid responding to smc's challenge.

[franalexes]

Unlike the rest of this forum, there seems to be no serious discussion here.

[smc]

Originally Posted by franalexes

Unlike the rest of this forum, there seems to be no serious discussion here.

Some of us try, but alas, it's damn near possible with a troll in the thread. A troll doesn't really want to discuss. A troll just wants to be a troll.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by franalexes

Unlike the rest of this forum, there seems to be no serious discussion here.

The fault lies not with me but with Tracy's utter inability to give a substantive answer or to admit a mistake and engage in the necessary introspection.

The troll by his nature cannot offer anything of substance. The troll by his nature is only capable of putting people down.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

This would be funnier were it not as smc said: you are using me to avoid responding to smc's challenge.

He may not have liked my response, (and by default you didn't like it either) but I did respond.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

He may not have liked my response, (and by default you didn't like it either) but I did respond.

Yes, you did "respond" ... in the same way that if I were to quote your most recent post and then write ANYTHING I could claim to have responded.

You are such a cowardly debater, Tracy Coxx. You know that this is about the substance of your responses. Why cowardly? You rarely take responsibility ffor the TROLL-like crap you spew. You try over and again to change the subject when you get called out. Sometimes, you whine that you're not being treated properly. And then, when you get just a tiny bit of courage in you, you send PMs with challenges that you then never meet yourself.

Your response to Enoch Root is no different.

This isn't about what you stand for, it's about HOW you stand for it. There are people who have your points of view who are honorable and honest debaters, who believe that discourse has value. Then there are Internet TROLLS. Anyone who can get past the "politics" and look at the method, regardless of which side that person may come down on politically, knows the camp in which you reside.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

He may not have liked my response, (and by default you didn't like it either) but I did respond.

I am not smc's lapdog though I do bristle at the accusation. He and I agree on many things but this does not mean I follow him blindly.