Justice?

[randolph]

Congress talks about jobs while they provide tax incentives to move jobs overseas. GE and other multinationals play games and avoid paying any taxes. What is the justice in that?

[smc]

A wise man once said that trying to have a rational discussion with people who do not understand the simple concept of moral inequivalency is perhaps the greatest waste of time to which humans wrongly aspire.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by smc

A wise man once said that trying to have a rational discussion with people who do not understand the simple concept of moral inequivalency is perhaps the greatest waste of time to which humans wrongly aspire.

There is lots of discussions about moral equivalency on the internet but I could find nothing on moral inequivalency. Would you care to elaborate on its meaning?

[smc]

Originally Posted by randolph

There is lots of discussions about moral equivalency on the internet but I could find nothing on moral inequivalency. Would you care to elaborate on its meaning?

It is simply my way of stating that the false moral equivalence so often proposed by some (e.g., invading Iraq on a lie or getting a blowjob from a White House interns as having some sort of moral equivalence in the pantheon of presidential behavior) should more correctly and accurately be called moral inequivalence.

In other words, the false moral equivalence established in arguments reveals moral inequivalence.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by smc

It is simply my way of stating that the false moral equivalence so often proposed by some (e.g., invading Iraq on a lie or getting a blowjob from a White House interns as having some sort of moral equivalence in the pantheon of presidential behavior) should more correctly and accurately be called moral inequivalence.

In other words, the false moral equivalence established in arguments reveals moral inequivalence.

It would appear that since WWII our foreign policy has been to a great extent been based on, as you say "moral inequivalance".
Justice continues to take a back seat. For example, the recent trade agreement with Columbia favors our multinational corporations instead of the local farmers of Columbia.
NAFTA was a moral disaster causing severe disruption in Mexico and consequent migration of dispossessed farmers to the US.

[Enoch Root]

Does the US have a tendency to destroy the agricultural capacities of other countries? This is the second time I've read of this on this forum.

I've been told of a crazy story about Monsanto screwing over small American farmers. Monsanto genetically engineered a strain of corn. This corn bred with the corn from small farmers. Except the farmers didn't pollinate their corn with Monsanto's genetically engineered brand. It just happened as these things happen in nature. Monsanto sued the small farmers for theft of some kind and won.

[smc]

Originally Posted by randolph

It would appear that since WWII our foreign policy has been to a great extent been based on, as you say "moral inequivalance".
Justice continues to take a back seat. For example, the recent trade agreement with Columbia favors our multinational corporations instead of the local farmers of Columbia.
NAFTA was a moral disaster causing severe disruption in Mexico and consequent migration of dispossessed farmers to the US.

And this surprises you? Capitalism is, by its very nature, unjust. Why, then, would a capitalist trade agreement largely imposed by a powerful capitalist nation on smaller nations as a condition of their ability to participate in the worldwide capitalist market be anything but unjust?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by smc

And this surprises you? Capitalism is, by its very nature, unjust. Why, then, would a capitalist trade agreement largely imposed by a powerful capitalist nation on smaller nations as a condition of their ability to participate in the worldwide capitalist market be anything but unjust?

It doesn't really surprise me, it's been going on for a long time ( banana episode in Guatemala). What I find encouraging is that developing countries like Brazil are becoming resistant to it and telling us to shove it, ie WTO and it's hegemony adjenda.

I had some hope that the Obama administration would take a more considerate and just approach to trade negotiations with Latin American countries, but such is not the case.