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All I said was that the government has no business getting involved in this.
They do. They make the laws.
This is a matter of law.

They exist to serve the citizens of the nation. Those children are citizens of the nation. They are entitled to every right that comes with it. Of course if you're for there being no laws against people doing whatever they want to someone else's body without their informed consent, then I'm sure there are a good few sadistic criminals who would agree with you...

(I'm sure you are NOT in favour of that, I'm just trying to point out the logical flaw in claiming that matters of legal protections of individuals ARE BY NECESSITY a matter for lawmakers)

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If I understand the linked news story correctly then the proposed ban would only apply to the city of San Francisco. I have to wonder if the city really has the power to enact a law like this. It would be rather strange to make a medical operation illegal in one city and yet that same operation would be legal in the rest of the state.
This inconsistency seems silly. However, if it reduces the number of people who are simply offered it by a doctor looking to make some extra bucks - then it's some small measure of progress. Only people really determined to get it done will go elsewhere for it.

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I'm just trying to point out the logical flaw in claiming that matters of legal protections of individuals are not BY NECESSITY a matter for lawmakers)
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But I don't think this bill is about mature adults making a personal choice about their bodies, but about the rights of children. It's easy for a doctor or parent making a decision about a new-born baby. But as an adult this baby might wish for whatever reason his foreskin was still intact. Once it's gone, you can't put it back. And babies can't give consent.
Yep.
And it's a pretty important part of the body, too. There are a few good reasons we're born with one.

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