Ungendering and a Lack of Respect

[vampi]

I won't ensure that fetiche is the best way to define a person's particular sex fancy. Just it's the most used term for people when they to that.

[wxhluyp]

In another sense it can be said that we have a duty to "ungender". This is because there is no distinct gender (there is no essential form of categorization). Gendering is imposing exclusivity.

[ila]

Originally Posted by wxhluyp

In another sense it can be said that we have a duty to "ungender". This is because there is no distinct gender (there is no essential form of categorization). Gendering is imposing exclusivity.

Your statement is specious.

[wxhluyp]

Originally Posted by ila

Your statement is specious.

It is? How so?

Originally Posted by wxhluyp

In another sense it can be said that we have a duty to "ungender". This is because there is no distinct gender (there is no essential form of categorization). Gendering is imposing exclusivity.

Here is a fairly straightforward definition of “Ungendering” from Trans 101:

Ungendering: “An attempt to invalidate a trans person’s gender by using cissexual privilege to identify incongruities and discrepancies in their gendered appearance that would normally be overlooked or dismissed if they were presumed to be cissexual.”

Also you might want to read ila’s original post in this thread. As defined here, the act of “ungendering” is considered quite offensive to trans men and women.

[wxhluyp]

Theoretically I do not privilege any particular way of identification. A single representative term is restrictive.

[smc]

Originally Posted by wxhluyp

Theoretically I do not privilege any particular way of identification. A single representative term is restrictive.

You are welcome to your opinion, as laden with sophism as it may be (in my opinion). The bottom line is that on this site we respect SELF-DETERMINATION. That means that each of us gets to determine our own gender identification, and you don't get to "ungender" anyone in that respect.

[wxhluyp]

Originally Posted by smc

You are welcome to your opinion, as laden with sophism as it may be (in my opinion). The bottom line is that on this site we respect SELF-DETERMINATION. That means that each of us gets to determine our own gender identification, and you don't get to "ungender" anyone in that respect.

I advocate inclusivity and growth. I am against subjected or self-imposed limitation.

I didn't expect such hostility...

[smc]

Originally Posted by wxhluyp

I advocate inclusivity and growth. I am against subjected or self-imposed limitation.

I didn't expect such hostility...

Again, that's fine. But even if you find it an example of "self-limitation" that someone on this site chooses to identify himself or herself a certain way, you don't get to undo that. Period.

And this isn't "hostility." It's clarity.

[michelletgirlcd]

I think it's all about the human mind

[darkstargemini]

> i saw Vanity on youtube talk about issues most people r still very close minded when it comes to gender accepting one seems very hard for most of society it,s like not in my backyard but some have a lot of skeletons in there closet

[johnny_love]

In my opinion, "real women" or "fake women women" are just terms that are not only offensive, but stupid as "women" is the only word that should be used by everyone. Doesn't matter the genitals, it matters the fact that you are women and shouldn't care about what others say, either if the say it out of not knowing or out of hatred...so be happy and peace!

[Marcelus]

In my opinion shemales are the real women in this world. ciswomen aren't cause they look different and aren't that smart as shemales! So , viva shemales!

[passivedude]

I think t-girlsare far, far more beautiful than genetic girls. You name me one single genetic gril who is as beautiful as Bailey Jay or Danni Daniels.

[darklord666]

Whether a by God's hands or the surgeons...women of the world are deserving of respect. I alway respect a persons right to 'self identify'.

[stephanie4life]

I so hate it that m girlfriend and bio female friends treat me like some novelty, the. "Aww you're so pretty" thing really kinda gets on my nerves. I'm doing this because this is who I am. I'm not somebody that's trying to entertain you or be somekind of barbie doll for you to play with. Ugh, can we get some respect please??! Stephanie

[loziver]

I think the trans genders have anatomic problem ,my be from hormones problem.
I remember that when I was child i Felt like girl .when I become man ,I like to get fuck by trans women.I think i have problem .I had never get fucked before.
Thank you

[the_bo]

I read through this whole thread and found the video of Calpernia Addams, that Jodie posted to be both funny and informative!
To be honest I have never heard of Calpernia Addams before but I have to say she has a very sexy face!