Immigration law

[ila]

Originally Posted by randolph

Actually, according to figures, areas with large numbers of illegal immigrants have lower crime rates. Go figure.

Interesting. Have you got a source for this information or a link to the source?

[Mel Asher]

Originally Posted by ila

Interesting. Have you got a source for this information or a link to the source?

The general perception in the United Kingdom with its unchecked European, Indian and African immigration of the past eight years is that crime syndicates, particularly from Eastern Europe, Nigeria and the horn of Africa, have prospered and expanded their spheres of operation, particularly in the child sex-trade.
Governments, almost without exception, will invariably deny that there is a problem, but it is the police and general public who have to bear the brunt of political incompetence and laxity.

It would be interesting to have figures to show if rises in levels of immigration across Western Europe, and North America have occurred in the past ten years, and if so, what the percentages are. Prison figures might also show a correspondence, if one exists.

[meaty_pete]

Originally Posted by Mel Asher

The general perception in the United Kingdom with its unchecked European, Indian and African immigration of the past eight years is that crime syndicates, particularly from Eastern Europe, Nigeria and the horn of Africa, have prospered and expanded their spheres of operation, particularly in the child sex-trade.
Governments, almost without exception, will invariably deny that there is a problem, but it is the police and general public who have to bear the brunt of political incompetence and laxity.

It would be interesting to have figures to show if rises in levels of immigration across Western Europe, and North America have occurred in the past ten years, and if so, what the percentages are. Prison figures might also show a correspondence, if one exists.

The general perception of who exactly? Some out-of-touch bloke in the public bar reading a copy of the daily express? Don't tar everybody in this country with your clueless, racist views.

Sorry I had to stop lurking and finally post something but lazy crap like this makes my blood boil.

[smc]

Originally Posted by Mel Asher

The general perception in the United Kingdom with its unchecked European, Indian and African immigration of the past eight years is that crime syndicates, particularly from Eastern Europe, Nigeria and the horn of Africa, have prospered and expanded their spheres of operation, particularly in the child sex-trade.
Governments, almost without exception, will invariably deny that there is a problem, but it is the police and general public who have to bear the brunt of political incompetence and laxity.

It would be interesting to have figures to show if rises in levels of immigration across Western Europe, and North America have occurred in the past ten years, and if so, what the percentages are. Prison figures might also show a correspondence, if one exists.

This is a racist view, pure and simple, painting with a broad brush immigrants as generally linked to crime syndicates. Racism, racism, racism.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by ila

Interesting. Have you got a source for this information or a link to the source?

An article in pe.com (Riverside Ca.) by Ruben Navarrette (member of Washington Post Writers Group) pointed out that cities with large populations of illegal immigrants have lower crime rates. This is probably the result of illegals keeping a low profile to avoid getting arrested and deported. There are other references to the studies, done in the 1990s, on the internet.
Here in California, things are getting much tougher for illegals. One I know who has been here for ten years, working hard, getting married to a US citizen and having two children is getting deported. Another who has a lawn care business is getting deported.
People come to this country because there are jobs here. We need some kind of a work permit system that lets them do the work but keeps their families back home. This would help the schools and the health care services. Its a sad situation, these are people just trying to make a living. Thanks to NAFTA destroying the small farmer economy of Mexico these people had to find work somewhere.