Barack Obama

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

So, Roberts' flub caused Obama to flub, which brings Obama's citizenship and motives into question? Any reasonable person would agree with you that Obama needs to be questioned, because it's so obvious?

Try and follow along. I used the oath of office as an example that BO doesn't want any questions about the validity of his presidency. So why wouldn't he show his birth certificate for the same reason, especially since he wasn't even required to redo the oath of office.

Originally Posted by Talvenada

In their thinking there is NOTHING Obama can do to prove otherwise unless he meets each one in person to hand them an original of his birth certificate, and mark my words this issue will not go away until he leaves The WH--maybe, not even then.

I don't feel that way, and I doubt most other conservatives feel that way.

Originally Posted by Talvenada

Notice the recent use of the word r-ded once by R. Emanuel. Palin called for his resignation as the only way for the apology to mean anything, but Limbaugh uses the more offensive r-tard SIX times. That however is repeating Emanuel which is okay, and/or an affront to being to PC, which is more than okay.

Well Palin is wrong. She's letting her emotions about her retard child get in the way of policy. Political correctness is the problem, not freedom of speech.

Originally Posted by randolph

I think this whole issue of the birth certificate is nothing more than egregious racism.

Randolf, why is that racism? This should be standard procedure for ANY presidential candidate.

[Talvenada]

TRACY:

I'm not going to even read posts that sound like a certain show.

TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

I'm not going to even read posts that sound like a certain show.

I use more than one source for my info. And I understand if you want to take any excuse you can to try and blow it off rather than address it.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I use more than one source for my info. And I understand if you want to take any excuse you can to try and blow it off rather than address it.

TRACY:

Yes, you have other sources besides Glenn Beck.

Beck says he's a commie, Nazi, and the whole admin. is filled with commies.

Coulter says he's deliberately ruining the country.

Limbaugh says he caused the economy to fail on 9/08.

Hannity says the town hallers were little old ladies.

Levin says he wants to take our money and give it to inner city scum.

So, you want me to offer a counter opinion to Obama in the above accusations that are presented as fact?

TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

Beck says he's a commie, Nazi, and the whole admin. is filled with commies.

Here's what his administration is made of:
Van Jones - http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyroba...wFullText=true
"Jones had planned to move to Washington, DC, and had already landed a job and an apartment there. But in jail, he said, "I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.'" Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. "I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary." In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist.""

- John Holdren, science "czar" - proposed "compulsory sterilization" and forced abortions to control population.

- Cass Sunstein, regulatory "czar" - proposed bans on hunting and eating meat and proposed that your dog to be allowed to have an attorney in court. And a fairness doctrine for the Internet, which he has since stepped away from. I don't know if commie's want lawyers for dogs, but strange never the less.

- Carol Browner, global warming "czar" - was part of Socialist International, a group for "global governance"

- Ezekiel Emmanuel, health care adviser - proponent of the Complete Lives System, which puts values on lives based mostly by age. Socialist health care.

Originally Posted by Talvenada

Levin says he wants to take our money and give it to inner city scum.

That's called redistribution of wealth. BO said it himself.

[m666]

Well, TracyCoxx, If you are able to explain to me how a czar can be a socialist, you win the sports car!

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Try and follow along. I used the oath of office as an example that BO doesn't want any questions about the validity of his presidency. So why wouldn't he show his birth certificate for the same reason, especially since he wasn't even required to redo the oath of office.

I don't feel that way, and I doubt most other conservatives feel that way.


Randolf, why is that racism? This should be standard procedure for ANY presidential candidate.

RANDY:

Obama had shown his birth certificate long ago, but here it is 6 to 9 months later, and Conse 'Pubs still want to see the BC. How Hillary & McCain didn't go after this indicates that we can only trust a Conse 'Pub in The WH, no?

I've seen a Conse 'Pub on TV hold the BC in his hand, and not change his tune for even 1 second. So, I say again there is NOTHING Obama can do that they will accept. They will continue to claim they only want to see his BC, because they want to reach the uninformed with fuzzy logic. It's a political debate, which means Obama is not an American is an EQUAL opinion.


TAL

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Try and follow along. I used the oath of office as an example that BO doesn't want any questions about the validity of his presidency. So why wouldn't he show his birth certificate for the same reason, especially since he wasn't even required to redo the oath of office.

I don't feel that way, and I doubt most other conservatives feel that way.

Well Palin is wrong. She's letting her emotions about her retard child get in the way of policy. Political correctness is the problem, not freedom of speech.

Randolf, why is that racism? This should be standard procedure for ANY presidential candidate.

Log into factcheck.org, photos of the birth certificate are there with interviews of the officials in charge of the birth records in Hawaii, who say this whole controversy is ridiculous. Attached is a photo showing the embossed stamp on his birth certificate. Right wing agitators will do anything to stir up trouble.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Log into factcheck.org, photos of the birth certificate are there with interviews of the officials in charge of the birth records in Hawaii, who say this whole controversy is ridiculous. Attached is a photo showing the embossed stamp on his birth certificate. Right wing agitators will do anything to stir up trouble.

Yeah, I've got one of those too...

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Yeah, I've got one of those too...

RANDY:

Now do you understand that nothing is good enough!!


TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

Now do you understand that nothing is good enough!!

Just an illustration to show how easy this is to do and to show why originals are needed. It's only the presidency.

And for the record, I'm not accusing him of not being a natural born US citizen. I'm just pointing out that it makes himself look suspicious that he doesn't bring forth an original copy of his birth certificate, especially when it's one of the few eligibility requirements for being president.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Just an illustration to show how easy this is to do and to show why originals are needed. It's only the presidency.

And for the record, I'm not accusing him of not being a natural born US citizen. I'm just pointing out that it makes himself look suspicious that he doesn't bring forth an original copy of his birth certificate, especially when it's one of the few eligibility requirements for being president.

TRACY:

What does Obama have to do to convince you? Please elaborate.

TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

What does Obama have to do to convince you? Please elaborate.

Congress certifies the votes. They should validate any accompanying paperwork as well. Normally I'd say it's ok to present a copy, but enough questions arose to prompt a federal court to ask BO to present his birth certificate. Up to this point no red flags were raised in my mind. This is the usual behind the scenes stuff you see in an election. But when BO refused and spent millions to block the order, then that got my attention. Considering that candidates routinely present birth certificates, medical records, tax forms, whatever if any issues are brought up to immediately allay any concerns before they fester and become issues.